Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Hajo Dezelski
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or is utc generic enough?


 It is utc generic ! ;-)

72 de
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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Oh, I see,

It was meant Underwater Technology Conference where you will be
invited. More generic is not possible.

I hope you don't mind:
http://hajos-kontrapunkte.blogspot.de/2014/03/wspr-bone-linux-adentures-in-beaglebone.html

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On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Or is utc generic enough?


  It is utc generic ! ;-)

 I know! ;) I was having fun playing with that sentence.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-13 Thread Hajo Dezelski
I second that. I am one of those who just started going west into the wild.
And I am still not sure which information are official and which are not.
However I am now sure that I didn't grab Robert's kernel.  A pitty, for I
would have speared a lot of time.

All the Best
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Am 13.03.2014 22:24 schrieb Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca:

 On Thursday, March 13, 2014 2:33:59 PM UTC-6, RobertCNelson wrote:

 So then, here's a question for you. Where do you want to see those
 type of faq's listed?

 I can pretty much dump them anywhere, but the hard question is where...


 I don't know where they should be stored, but there should definitely be
 links on the beagleboard.org main page. It seems to me that if Debian is
 going to replace Angstrom, then a link to the Debian release images and
 FAQs should be put there. Eventually, the Angstrom info could be
 deprecated, or rather archived and its visibility reduced.

 It seems to me that there are currently too many places to go to get the
 various linux distributions and kernels, and none of them seem to be
 officially sanctioned as the standard release. This leads to unnecessary
 confusion for new users. Some info on beagleboard.org, some info at
 circuitco.com, some info at elinux.org, some info at armhf.com, etc., not
 to mention all the other stuff at ti.com.

 The official wiki at
 http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Software_Resourcesdoesn't 
 even mention this Debian releases (and it should if you want people
 to test it). The community wiki at
 http://elinux.org/BeagleBone_Community#Debian does list a Debian release,
 but it is a different, and incompatible, arm EABI version from this new
 armhf release.

 I appreciate all the hard work that people have done to prepare all this
 information, but it's a little like the wild west when you first start
 looking around.

 Dennis Cote

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-12 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello Robert,

thanks for your advice. I deleted the man pages and some other stuff.
It helped. Now I have about 15 % available. Great. I noticed, that
most of the non-critical packages (from: Reduce Debian) were already
missing.

But bare with me, I'm not a Linux Guru like you.
I reformatted the sd card using a script that I found: mkcard.sh found
in an Angstrom discussion.

It created:

Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/mmcblk0p1   *  0+  8   9- 72261c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/mmcblk0p2  9 965 9577687102+  83  Linux

And I found the mmcblk0p2 partition named rootfs with a Lost and found
directory.
My uEnv.txt (found in an Angstrom-discussion) looks like:

bootpart=1:2
mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk1p2

I didn't find the vriable  uenvcmd. Perhaps there is something
missing in the uEnv.txt.
The I create on rootfs a directory and an fstab file? And write ?
And should I create the home etc. directories in that partition?

Sorry for bothering you again. Next time we meet , the bottle of wine is on me.

Thanks and regards
Hajo
Gruss
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 this was one of the problems with BBB. I managed to install Debian with
 BBB-eMMc-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-02-16-2gb.img installed only Xfce (needed
 an graphical output) and had about 450 MB left. Beside that I had to install
 a swap file 128 MB I'm down to 211156. That's not a lot. Under Angstrom I
 managed to use the sd card with the uEnv.txt as additional storage, but I
 forgot to withdraw the card when finished and waited while booting up until
 I noticed that the BBB got stuck.

 You can also dump all the man pages, locales, etc. There is a lot of
 documentation installed by default in debian that wasn't in the
 Angstrom images's..

 My question to Robert: Is there a clean way under Debian to format or mount
 the sd card as additional storage or even better: Is it possible to mount
 e.g. homedirectories to that card, so that we are not stuck to that damned 2
 GB. I know, I could use the card to boot from, but ...

 Yes, usually any tools fdisk/sfdisk/gparted reformat the microSD card.
 As long as there isn't an uEnv.txt file with the variable uenvcmd
 set in the first partition the bootloader will ignore the microSD
 card.  Just add it to /etc/fstab and create a new home diretory on it.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-12 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Robert,

that was a fast one. Thanks again - discussions in other groups can
sometimes lead you to nowhere and you get lost. (There was written
that the uEnv.txt was mandatory) So I will not use your 64 MB image.
Sorry, I am happy that this one is running.

Have a nice day
and so long from Nowhere man

Hajo

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On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Hajo Dezelski dl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Robert,

 thanks for your advice. I deleted the man pages and some other stuff.
 It helped. Now I have about 15 % available. Great. I noticed, that
 most of the non-critical packages (from: Reduce Debian) were already
 missing.

 But bare with me, I'm not a Linux Guru like you.
 I reformatted the sd card using a script that I found: mkcard.sh found
 in an Angstrom discussion.

 It created:

 Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
 /dev/mmcblk0p1   *  0+  8   9- 72261c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
 /dev/mmcblk0p2  9 965 9577687102+  83  Linux

 And I found the mmcblk0p2 partition named rootfs with a Lost and found
 directory.
 My uEnv.txt (found in an Angstrom-discussion) looks like:

 bootpart=1:2
 mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk1p2

 With my image, don't worry about this. ^^^ As long as there is no
 uEnv.txt file on the microSD, u-boot will always use the factory one
 i installed in the eMMC.  And since it uses uuid's instead of the raw
 partition name, it'll always find the rootfs partition no matter
 what.  So just blank/format your microSD as a simple ext4 partition.

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[beagleboard] Problems installing WSPR and RTL-SDR on Beaglebone Debian

2014-03-11 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

After trying Angstrom, Ubuntu, Debian, Angstrom I decided to install Debian 
on the emmc. No problem. FLdigi and several other amateur radio programs 
are running fine. The main reason for the BBB was a WSPR monitor. So I got 
the sources installed the depending libraries, made configure and 
everything went well: creating Makefile, ... Installing: ..., but in the 
directory was no make file. Same problem with RTL-SDR, configuration went 
without complaints, but no make file. I can't open the py-file due to 
missing files.
I ran this also as root and both sources compile fine on other machines.

Debian wheezy 7.4 / 3.8.13-bone40 / Xfce.

Any pointers?

Thanks in advance for your help.

73 de Hajo

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[beagleboard] Re: Problems installing WSPR and RTL-SDR on Beaglebone Debian

2014-03-11 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Oh Dear,

problem solved. make was not part of the Debian distribution. I had to 
install it by hand.I think nobody seems to compile programs anymore.

Hajo

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Problems installing WSPR and RTL-SDR on Beaglebone Debian

2014-03-11 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello Robert,

I was using the official image 
BBB-eMMc-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-02-16-2gb.img. While installing make 
with apt-get it was installed new. I couldn't recall the message... too 
many lines gone by.

Program still doesn't work but that's another problem ;-)

Anyway thanks for the answer.

Hajo

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:44:31 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Hajo Dezelski 
 dl1...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Oh Dear, 
  
  problem solved. make was not part of the Debian distribution. I had to 
  install it by hand.I think nobody seems to compile programs anymore. 

 The official debian image have gcc/make installed by default. 

 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images 

 With my other traditional images on 
 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian the only goal was enough packages 
 to get online to use apt-get... 

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Here is the BeagleBone Debian (beta) image you want to test

2014-03-11 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

this was one of the problems with BBB. I managed to install Debian with 
BBB-eMMc-flasher-debian-7.4-2014-02-16-2gb.img installed only Xfce (needed 
an graphical output) and had about 450 MB left. Beside that I had to 
install a swap file 128 MB I'm down to 211156. That's not a lot. Under 
Angstrom I managed to use the sd card with the uEnv.txt as additional 
storage, but I forgot to withdraw the card when finished and waited while 
booting up until I noticed that the BBB got stuck.

My question to Robert: Is there a clean way under Debian to format or mount 
the sd card as additional storage or even better: Is it possible to mount 
e.g. homedirectories to that card, so that we are not stuck to that damned 
2 GB. I know, I could use the card to boot from, but ...

Regards
   Hajo DL1SDZ

On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 4:26:11 PM UTC+1, RobertCNelson wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Steve French 
 voltv...@gmail.comjavascript: 
 wrote: 
  Hello all! 
  I have been testing the new official Debian eMMC flasher image for the 
 BBB... 
  http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ 
  (...in particular this one Debian (BeagleBone Black - 2GB eMMC) 
 2014-03-04) 
  
  root@vBBB5studioS:/var/lib/cloud9# uname -a 
  Linux vBBB5studioS 3.8.13-bone41 #1 SMP Tue Mar 4 22:51:47 UTC 2014 
 armv7l 
  GNU/Linux 
  
  
  Regarding available space on the eMMC, I am seeing this after a fresh 
 flash... 
  root@vBBB5studioS:/var/lib/cloud9# df -h 
  Filesystem  Size  Used Avail 
  Use% Mounted on 
  rootfs  1.7G  1.3G  284M 
  83% / 
  udev 10M 0   10M 
  0% /dev 
  tmpfs   100M  788K   99M 
  1% /run 
  /dev/disk/by-uuid/57e2c7bb-2b31-488e-b9b4-92e3e4c6af20  1.7G  1.3G  284M 
  83% / 
  tmpfs   249M 0  249M 
  0% /dev/shm 
  tmpfs   249M 0  249M 
  0% /sys/fs/cgroup 
  tmpfs   5.0M 0  5.0M 
  0% /run/lock 
  tmpfs   100M 0  100M 
  0% /run/user 
  /dev/mmcblk0p1   96M   80M   17M 
  83% /boot/uboot 
  
  
  Does this look right?  Is it really supposed to be 83% full from the 
 start 
  with only 284MB remaining? 

 Correct, to meet everyone's out of box pkg requirements, the eMMC is 
 mostly full.  If you drop opencv/python/chromium you'll gain a lot of 
 space back. 

 Otherwise, it's just easier to just use the non-flasher image on a 
 4GB/8GB microSD card. 
 (making sure to use the grow_partition.sh script under 
 /opt/scripts/tools/ to fully resize the drive) 

 Regards, 

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