Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-19 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Hello,

thanks a lot for that hint.
Currently I connected the SYS_Reset Pin of the Beagle to the reset pin of 
the Atmega.
This will disable all drivers until the BBB is up and running, right?
Or is there any other thing I can do till the beagle is up?

Am Freitag, 19. September 2014 04:53:36 UTC+2 schrieb serge...@gmail.com:



 Hi Uli,

 on your design, some your signals go to the BBB boot mode pins.
 For example, 2_D0_RX signal goes to the SYS_BOOT_8 of the BBB which must 
 be Low at power up.
 Please check every other your signal likewise, if they do not prevent the 
 BBB from booting.

 Normally people just disable all the drivers on the cape until the BBB is 
 up and running.
 This is what was initially suggested.





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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-19 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Hello,

thanks a lot for that hint.
Currently I have connected the SYS_Reset Pin of the Beagle to the reset pin of 
the atmega.
This will disable all drivers until the BBB is up and running, right?

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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-19 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Hello,

thanks a lot for that hint.
Currently I connected the SYS_Reset Pin of the Beagle to the reset pin of 
the atmega.
This will disable all drivers until the BBB is up and running, right?

Am Freitag, 19. September 2014 04:53:36 UTC+2 schrieb serge...@gmail.com:



 Hi Uli,

 on your design, some your signals go to the BBB boot mode pins.
 For example, 2_D0_RX signal goes to the SYS_BOOT_8 of the BBB which must 
 be Low at power up.
 Please check every other your signal likewise, if they do not prevent the 
 BBB from booting.

 Normally people just disable all the drivers on the cape until the BBB is 
 up and running.
 This is what was initially suggested.





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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-18 Thread serge . nsk14


Hi Uli,

on your design, some your signals go to the BBB boot mode pins.
For example, 2_D0_RX signal goes to the SYS_BOOT_8 of the BBB which must be 
Low at power up.
Please check every other your signal likewise, if they do not prevent the 
BBB from booting.

Normally people just disable all the drivers on the cape until the BBB is 
up and running.
This is what was initially suggested.





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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-16 Thread Ulli
@Gerald: What else can be wrong except the hardware design?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:25:11 UTC+2 schrieb Ulli:


 I am not sure what you mean with to disable the buffer before until you 
 come up. 
 Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the Atmega`s?

 What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is 
 directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?

 Two more ideas:
  * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage 
 supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle 
 headers?
  * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and create 
 the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the 
 MCP1703?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before 
 the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could 
 switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB, 
 you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to 
 disable the buffer before until you cone up.

 There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise 
 I don't see anything else.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first tries 
 on a USB port.

 Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect 
 the SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape 
 mode. If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB, 
 then you will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not know 
 if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle stopped 
 working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it 
 connected to the beagle.
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
 edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header 
 Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input 
 voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for 
 LED`s and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. 
 Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either 
 the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating 
 the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. 
 -- blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I 
 can also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up 
 one time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the 
 BBB 

Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-16 Thread Gerald Coley
It has to be HW or the application and use of the hardware. Maybe you have
a short or some other issue with your assembly.

Gerald


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Ulli mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Gerald: What else can be wrong except the hardware design?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:25:11 UTC+2 schrieb Ulli:


 I am not sure what you mean with to disable the buffer before until you
 come up.
 Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the Atmega`s?

 What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is
 directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?

 Two more ideas:
  * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage
 supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle
 headers?
  * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and create
 the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the
 MCP1703?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before
 the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could
 switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB,
 you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to
 disable the buffer before until you cone up.

 There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise
 I don't see anything else.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first tries
 on a USB port.

 Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect
 the SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape
 mode. If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB,
 then you will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not
 know if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle
 stopped working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it
 connected to the beagle.
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
 edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header
 Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input
 voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of
 the header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for
 LED`s and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground.

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up.
 Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either 
 the
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of 
 gating the
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply.
 -- blocking
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 capacitor
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running.
 I can also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape.
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up
 one time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, 

Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-16 Thread Ulli

Can the 3V3 supply of the Beagle drive all the components regarding max 
current?
Could that blow the beagle like described at the beginning?

Am Dienstag, 16. September 2014 18:18:25 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 It has to be HW or the application and use of the hardware. Maybe you have 
 a short or some other issue with your assembly.

 Gerald


 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Ulli mitterma...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 @Gerald: What else can be wrong except the hardware design?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:25:11 UTC+2 schrieb Ulli:


 I am not sure what you mean with to disable the buffer before until you 
 come up. 
 Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the Atmega`s?

 What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is 
 directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?

 Two more ideas:
  * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage 
 supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle 
 headers?
  * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and 
 create the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the 
 MCP1703?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before 
 the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could 
 switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB, 
 you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to 
 disable the buffer before until you cone up.

 There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise 
 I don't see anything else.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first 
 tries on a USB port.

 Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect 
 the SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape 
 mode. If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB, 
 then you will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not 
 know if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle 
 stopped working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have 
 it connected to the beagle.
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
 edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header 
 Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input 
 voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will 
 be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of 
 the header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for 
 LED`s and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes 
 up. Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from 
 either 
 the expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of 
 gating 
 the ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC 
 path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. 
 -- blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. 
 I can also not boot the beagle up when I 

Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-16 Thread Gerald Coley
The rail can drive it. No using the 3.3V rail will not cause damage to the
processor I/O pins as long as the reset lines is sued to make sure they are
not driven until reset is released..

Gerald


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Ulli mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:


 Can the 3V3 supply of the Beagle drive all the components regarding max
 current?
 Could that blow the beagle like described at the beginning?

 Am Dienstag, 16. September 2014 18:18:25 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 It has to be HW or the application and use of the hardware. Maybe you
 have a short or some other issue with your assembly.

 Gerald


 On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 @Gerald: What else can be wrong except the hardware design?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:25:11 UTC+2 schrieb Ulli:


 I am not sure what you mean with to disable the buffer before until
 you come up.
 Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the
 Atmega`s?

 What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is
 directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?

 Two more ideas:
  * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage
 supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle
 headers?
  * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and
 create the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the
 MCP1703?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before
 the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could
 switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB,
 you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to
 disable the buffer before until you cone up.

 There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise
 I don't see anything else.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first
 tries on a USB port.

 Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect
 the SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape
 mode. If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB,
 then you will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not
 know if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle
 stopped working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have
 it connected to the beagle.
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
 edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you
 right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header
 Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input
 voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will 
 be
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of
 the header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for
 LED`s and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground.

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes
 up. Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from 
 either
 the expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of 
 gating
 the ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC 
 path to
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3
 supply. -- blocking
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 

[beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Hello all,

I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 3xRFM69 
radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the circuit 
in the following link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/edit?usp=sharing

When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue 
described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged 
the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by 
VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just 
have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand 
what the matter is!

THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Gerald Coley
Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


.
Gerald


On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 3xRFM69
 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the circuit
 in the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand
 what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Gerald Coley
http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Expansion_Header_Usage

Gerald

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Gerald Coley ger...@beagleboard.org
wrote:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
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 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 3xRFM69
 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the circuit
 in the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand
 what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
What do you mean with C1?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 3xRFM69 
 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the circuit 
 in the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by 
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just 
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand 
 what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Gerald Coley
IC1. Your regulator.

Gerald

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 3xRFM69
 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the circuit
 in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand
 what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. -- 
blocking 
https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 
capacitor 
https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can also 
not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one 
time...and thats it

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the 
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by 
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just 
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not understand 
 what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Gerald Coley
Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. Right
now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the
expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating the
ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to
ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as
they should be.

Gerald

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. --
 blocking
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 capacitor
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can
 also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape.
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p,
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find the
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced by
 VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally just
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

I am not sure if I understood right.

Currently I have to options to power the cape.
1. Use the cape without the Beagle
   -- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header Pin2-Pin3 
connected on the MCP1703 side.
   -- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
   -- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage VIN

2. Use the cape with the Beagle
   -- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header Pin1-Pin2 
connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be generated by 
the cape itself...
   -- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
   -- 3,3V from the beagle

Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the header 
is available.
The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s and 
the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. Right 
 now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. -- 
 blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can 
 also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one 
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find 
 the 
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced 
 by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally 
 just 
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not 
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
The FTDI connector will not be connected when the cape is connected to the 
beagle.
All GND signals are connected to each other and they are all connected to 
the beagle. No other/external GND is connected to the cape.

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:24:57 UTC+2 schrieb mitterma...@gmail.com:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header Pin2-Pin3 
 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s and 
 the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. Right 
 now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. -- 
 blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can 
 also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one 
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find 
 the 
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the 
 issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never 
 unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced 
 by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally 
 just 
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not 
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Gerald Coley
So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

Gerald


On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mittermaier.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header Pin2-Pin3
 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s and
 the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground.

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. Right
 now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating the
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. --
 blocking
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 capacitor
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can
 also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape.
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p,
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find 
 the
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the issue
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never unplugged
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced
 by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally 
 just
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread ulli

You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not know if 
that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle stopped 
working because of my cape

I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it 
connected to the beagle.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/edit?usp=sharing


Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header Pin2-Pin3 
 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s and 
 the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. Right 
 now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. -- 
 blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I can 
 also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one 
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can find 
 the 
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the 
 issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never 
 unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are sourced 
 by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I additionally 
 just 
 have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not 
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread mittermaier . ulli
Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first tries on 
a USB port.

Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect the 
SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape mode. 
 If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB, then you 
 will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com javascript:
  wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not know if 
 that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle stopped 
 working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it 
 connected to the beagle.

 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header Pin2-Pin3 
 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage 
 VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s 
 and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. 
 Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating 
 the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. -- 
 blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I 
 can also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up one 
 time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the 
 BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting your support! I am desperate!
 I am currently developing a radio cape which has two Atmega328p, 
 3xRFM69 radio modules and some other small things on it. You can 
 find the 
 circuit in the following link:
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uQ3k3WkJUbG9icWs/
 edit?usp=sharing

 When I use this cape on by BBB, the Beagle stopped working during 
 operation. I tried to reboot it but it now do not boot up like the 
 issue 
 described in the Beagle Wiki as Improper Power Down. I never 
 unplugged 
 the power cord from the board. It just stopped working.
 When the cape is connected to the beagle the components are 
 sourced by VDD_3V3Exp and VDD_5V. So no external power supply. I 
 additionally just have the Uart4/5 connected to my circuit

 I would really appreciate your help. Because I really do not 
 understand what the matter is!

 THANKS A LOT!


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Re: [beagleboard] BBB with own cape stops working

2014-09-15 Thread Ulli

I am not sure what you mean with to disable the buffer before until you 
come up. 
Directly connect the Beagle SYS_RESETn pin to the pin 29 of the Atmega`s?

What would be the positive effect by using the SYS_5V. I think it is 
directly connected to the Beagle DC plug. So, it can drive more current?

Two more ideas:
 * would it be helpful to add a 0,1µF capacitor to the beagle voltage 
supply pins on the header, between VDD_3v3 and Gnd very close to the beagle 
headers?
 * would it be better to completely supply my cape from SYS_5V and create 
the 3v for the Atmegas and the other components on the cape with the 
MCP1703?

Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:14:45 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Nothing else jumps out at me. The 5V rail you are using is on before 
 the board is powered up, but I don't think that should matter. You could 
 switch to SYS_5V, no reason not to.As you only have four wires to the BBB, 
 you might try adding some isolation there, and use the RESET signal to 
 disable the buffer before until you cone up.

 There may be something else in your setup. But, schematic wise I don't see 
 anything else.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:09 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Yes of course. I added this option just to run the cape for first tries 
 on a USB port.

 Could you find any other problems? I am currently thinking to connect the 
 SYS_RESETn of the BBB directly to the reset pin of the atmega`s?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 23:06:09 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like you have shorting posts for your standalone versus cape mode. 
 If you ever by accident plug in the standalone mode into the BBB, then you 
 will damage the board for sure.

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:51 PM, ulli mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:


 You are right, there must be something wrong but I do not know what.
 I understood that the blocking capacitor is missing. But I do not know 
 if that is the only mistake and this is the reason why my beagle stopped 
 working because of my cape

 I updated the circuit to that configuration like it is when I have it 
 connected to the beagle.
 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Fq4yYMgG7uTFlIRjdjcGRUYlE/
 edit?usp=sharing


 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 22:32:54 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 So your contention is that this is all correct? Do I read you right?

 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:24 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for your quick answer and very helpful feedback!

 I am not sure if I understood right.

 Currently I have to options to power the cape.
 1. Use the cape without the Beagle
-- Power supply over the FTDI connector and solder header 
 Pin2-Pin3 connected on the MCP1703 side.
-- 5V solder header Pin1-Pin2 connected
-- 3,3V will be generated with the MCP1703 from the input voltage 
 VIN

 2. Use the cape with the Beagle
-- Power supply all over the beagle headers and solder header 
 Pin1-Pin2 connected on the MCP1703 side. Therefore no voltages will be 
 generated by the cape itself...
-- 5V solder header Pin2-Pin3 connected. 5V from the beagle.
-- 3,3V from the beagle

 Therefore the atmega`s can only power up when the 3.3v supply of the 
 header is available.
 The 5v supply is always on thats right. But 5v is only used for LED`s 
 and the Piezo Buzzer and this parts are 
 disconnected with a BC817 from ground. 

 Yes all wires which are named as GND are connected.

 Do you really see an issue on that? What needs to be changed?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:56:47 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Your regulator must be turned off until the VDD_3V3 rail comes up. 
 Right now it comes up almost immediately as it is powered from either 
 the 
 expansion header or a weirdly designed 5V DC input. The idea of gating 
 the 
 ground to control power will not work as you already have a DC path to 
 ground, assuming that all of your grounds are connected together as 
 they should be.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:45 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh I understood, I need to add the C1 on each Atmega 3V3 supply. 
 -- blocking 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=blockingsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
  
 capacitor 
 https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=capacitorsearchLoc=0resultOrder=basicmultiwordShowSingle=on
 But could that really be the issue which stopps the BBB running. I 
 can also not boot the beagle up when I have removed the cape. 
 When I want to boot up the beagle alone the power led flashes up 
 one time...and thats it

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:29:20 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 IC1. Your regulator.

 Gerald

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 What do you mean with C1?

 Am Montag, 15. September 2014 21:08:59 UTC+2 schrieb Gerald:

 Looks like C1 is not gated by the 3.3V rail from the 
 BBB connectors.


 .
 Gerald


 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, mitterma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 I urgently requesting