[beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY Chips

2016-07-28 Thread luketrichter 
The BeagleBoard-X15 has quite an impressive set of features. However I 
think that it is missing one thing: IEEE 1588 Precision Time Protocol (PTP) 
PHY chips. For example, http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is 
TI's DP83640 PHY chip.

 I believe the board as is will be great for doing real-time tasks within 
itself and its peripherals. However it lacks the ability to sync with 
real-time systems where precision is key.

I think adding this to the design will not only be beneficial to me, but 
also to many other developers. Think of all the uses for PTP (Industrial 
Automation, Test & Measurement, *Robotic Control*, etc.)

*BeagleBoard, do you think there is a possibility of incorporating this 
into your design?* If not, I'd like to put together a group of independent 
individuals to make this happen (both hardware-wise and software-wise).

LR

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[beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY chips

2016-07-28 Thread luketrichter 
Hello,

The specs for the new X15 are quite impressive. However I think it is 
missing one thing: PHY chips that support IEEE 1588, i.e. Precision Time 
Protocol (PTP). For example: http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is 
TIs DP83640 chip. I think this would open up the board to even more 
developers, not just myself. The X15 could really benefit from using PTP to 
sync with the outside world.

I am currently looking for a dev board for prototyping. The BeagleBoard-X15 
fits my needs perfectly, except for the lack of IEEE 1588 supporting PHYs. 

Here are my questions:
1. Is there any possibility that this will be incorporated into the design 
of the X15?
2. How hard is the process of adding IEEE 1588 support to the X15 
(hardware-wise)? It's not as simple as replacing the chip, is it? (seems 
too easy to be correct)

LR

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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY Chips

2016-07-28 Thread Gerald Coley 
We have no plans to do so at this time. The space on the board is very
tight and this device is larger that what is there now.

Gerald

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:09 AM,  wrote:

> The BeagleBoard-X15 has quite an impressive set of features. However I
> think that it is missing one thing: IEEE 1588 Precision Time Protocol (PTP)
> PHY chips. For example, http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is
> TI's DP83640 PHY chip.
>
>  I believe the board as is will be great for doing real-time tasks within
> itself and its peripherals. However it lacks the ability to sync with
> real-time systems where precision is key.
>
> I think adding this to the design will not only be beneficial to me, but
> also to many other developers. Think of all the uses for PTP (Industrial
> Automation, Test & Measurement, *Robotic Control*, etc.)
>
> *BeagleBoard, do you think there is a possibility of incorporating this
> into your design?* If not, I'd like to put together a group of
> independent individuals to make this happen (both hardware-wise and
> software-wise).
>
> LR
>
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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY chips

2016-07-28 Thread Gerald Coley 
We have no plans to do so at this time. The space on the board is very
tight and this device is larger that what is there now. It would take a lot
of work and the changing of the board dimensions to get it in.

Gerald

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM,  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The specs for the new X15 are quite impressive. However I think it is
> missing one thing: PHY chips that support IEEE 1588, i.e. Precision Time
> Protocol (PTP). For example: http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is
> TIs DP83640 chip. I think this would open up the board to even more
> developers, not just myself. The X15 could really benefit from using PTP to
> sync with the outside world.
>
> I am currently looking for a dev board for prototyping.
> The BeagleBoard-X15 fits my needs perfectly, except for the lack of IEEE
> 1588 supporting PHYs.
>
> Here are my questions:
> 1. Is there any possibility that this will be incorporated into the design
> of the X15?
> 2. How hard is the process of adding IEEE 1588 support to the X15
> (hardware-wise)? It's not as simple as replacing the chip, is it? (seems
> too easy to be correct)
>
> LR
>
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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY chips

2016-07-28 Thread CEinTX 
LR,

I don't believe that the Phy is what determines the 1588 compliance. My 
understanding is that it is the MAC.
On the BBB the MAC is what is 1588 compliant. The 8710 phy says nothing 
about this. As a matter of fact,
none of the datasheets I have on phys say anything about 1588. The phy is 
just the physical interface part
of the equation, so it is likely that the MAC and software are what you 
need for the 1588 to work. Have a 
look at the TRM for the X15 processor's MAC and see what you find. If 
you're lucky, maybe there's code for
the BBB that you can leverage to the X15.

GL,
Matt

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 7:01:05 AM UTC-5, Gerald wrote:
>
> We have no plans to do so at this time. The space on the board is very 
> tight and this device is larger that what is there now. It would take a lot 
> of work and the changing of the board dimensions to get it in. 
>
> Gerald
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM, > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> The specs for the new X15 are quite impressive. However I think it is 
>> missing one thing: PHY chips that support IEEE 1588, i.e. Precision Time 
>> Protocol (PTP). For example: http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is 
>> TIs DP83640 chip. I think this would open up the board to even more 
>> developers, not just myself. The X15 could really benefit from using PTP to 
>> sync with the outside world.
>>
>> I am currently looking for a dev board for prototyping. 
>> The BeagleBoard-X15 fits my needs perfectly, except for the lack of IEEE 
>> 1588 supporting PHYs. 
>>
>> Here are my questions:
>> 1. Is there any possibility that this will be incorporated into the 
>> design of the X15?
>> 2. How hard is the process of adding IEEE 1588 support to the X15 
>> (hardware-wise)? It's not as simple as replacing the chip, is it? (seems 
>> too easy to be correct)
>>
>> LR
>>
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>
>
>
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Re: [beagleboard] BeagleBoard-X15 with IEEE 1588 (PTP) PHY chips

2016-07-28 Thread CEinTX 
LR,

I did a quick g-search.
Found: 
http://www.iebmedia.com/index.php?id=5543&parentid=63&themeid=255&showdetail=true
There are apparently several ways to implement the 1588 protocol. From all 
software to  a combo of
hardware and software. Most however don't seem to need a specific phy 
solution.
So, it looks like you should be in luck. Unless code development is not in 
your wheelhouse.

GL,
Matt

On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 8:13:40 AM UTC-5, CEinTX wrote:
>
> LR,
>
> I don't believe that the Phy is what determines the 1588 compliance. My 
> understanding is that it is the MAC.
> On the BBB the MAC is what is 1588 compliant. The 8710 phy says nothing 
> about this. As a matter of fact,
> none of the datasheets I have on phys say anything about 1588. The phy is 
> just the physical interface part
> of the equation, so it is likely that the MAC and software are what you 
> need for the 1588 to work. Have a 
> look at the TRM for the X15 processor's MAC and see what you find. If 
> you're lucky, maybe there's code for
> the BBB that you can leverage to the X15.
>
> GL,
> Matt
>
> On Thursday, July 28, 2016 at 7:01:05 AM UTC-5, Gerald wrote:
>>
>> We have no plans to do so at this time. The space on the board is very 
>> tight and this device is larger that what is there now. It would take a lot 
>> of work and the changing of the board dimensions to get it in. 
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:25 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The specs for the new X15 are quite impressive. However I think it is 
>>> missing one thing: PHY chips that support IEEE 1588, i.e. Precision Time 
>>> Protocol (PTP). For example: http://www.ti.com/product/DP83640 which is 
>>> TIs DP83640 chip. I think this would open up the board to even more 
>>> developers, not just myself. The X15 could really benefit from using PTP to 
>>> sync with the outside world.
>>>
>>> I am currently looking for a dev board for prototyping. 
>>> The BeagleBoard-X15 fits my needs perfectly, except for the lack of IEEE 
>>> 1588 supporting PHYs. 
>>>
>>> Here are my questions:
>>> 1. Is there any possibility that this will be incorporated into the 
>>> design of the X15?
>>> 2. How hard is the process of adding IEEE 1588 support to the X15 
>>> (hardware-wise)? It's not as simple as replacing the chip, is it? (seems 
>>> too easy to be correct)
>>>
>>> LR
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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