Re: [beagleboard] Re: USB wireless adaptors at 3.3v ...

2020-10-22 Thread Philippe Frossard

BBB = Beaglebone black
BBBW = Beaglebone black wireless

Battery connected to TP5,6,7,8 (LiPo 3.7V)

USB Wifi work with 5VDC (Jack)

The physical address of MUSB_DEVCTL for MUSB1 is 0x47401C60, I used 
memtool to play with it ...


And now, the USB Wifi key works on battery ...

Le 22/10/2020 à 16:34, robert.sty...@gmail.com a écrit :
Sorry to misunderstand your question, if French is your first 
language, could you post in French and English.


Is "BBB" a BeagleBoneBlack (non Wi-Fi)? What is "BBB" abbreviation for?

How is the battery connected?

Does the BBB recharge the battery?

Does the USB Wi-Fi work when the BBB is powered through the USB PC 
MINI connector?

If not, it might be using too much current.

I do not know any USB devices that work below 4.4V. I would think, USB 
devices need > 4V for its own 3.3V supply.


The BeagleBone BATTERY Cape, supplies 5V to the DC in jack through 
expansion connector P9.5 and P9.6. The BBB should work like connected 
to 5V power supply to the 5V DC in Jack.
You will need to use  alkaline batteries (cells) or rechargeable NiMH 
to get enough current; (the cape has the batteries connected in 
parallel, AFAIK you should not do this; the Tesla battery pack has 
each cell connected through PTC resistor/fuse). For the BeagleBone and 
USB Wi-Fi dongle to use 500mA, the batteries would have to supply 1A.
Perhaps, the Board ID Memory says it cannot supply enough power for 
USB host.



On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 14:28:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:

When the BBB work on battery and come back to 5v the USB port doesn't
work !?

Le 22/10/2020 à 15:13, robert.sty...@gmail.com a écrit :
> Looking at BeagleBone Black rev C schematic and TPS65217C data
sheet
>
> If the battery is connected to the Rechargeable Battery access pins
> (TP5/6/7/8 TESTPT1),
> The battery feeds the USB HOST VBUS '5V' through SYS_5V, the 3V
to 5V
> booster would have to be an inline adapter plugged into the USB
HOST
> connector, this is slightly non trivial.
> In theory, a booster input could be connected to SYS_5V on P9.7
> (ground to P9.1) and booster output to an USB hub power input with
> Wi-Fi plugged into hub, however many hubs let the 5V hub power flow
> back into the host.
>
> If a battery pack is just connected to the DC in Jack, the voltage
> should be 4.3V to 5.8V.
> The battery pack could be connected to a 5V  booster input and
the DC
> jack to booster output.
>
>
> On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 12:22:03 UTC+1
robert.sty...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> Many Wi-Fi modules are designed for a Lithium cell which is 3V to
> 4.2V.
> The first thing the USB part does is reduce the USB 5V to 3.3V
> You can boost the battery to 5V with something like
> https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903
>
> On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 10:15:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I try to find an USB Wireless adaptors working at 5v and 3.3v
> (When BBB
> working on battery),
> I checking a lot of key without success ...
> Someone have an idea ?
> Thanks.
>



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Re: [beagleboard] Re: USB wireless adaptors at 3.3v ...

2020-10-22 Thread robert.sty...@gmail.com
Sorry to misunderstand your question, if French is your first language, 
could you post in French and English.

Is "BBB" a BeagleBoneBlack (non Wi-Fi)? What is "BBB" abbreviation for?

How is the battery connected?

Does the BBB recharge the battery?

Does the USB Wi-Fi work when the BBB is powered through the USB PC MINI 
connector? 
If not, it might be using too much current.

I do not know any USB devices that work below 4.4V. I would think, USB 
devices need > 4V for its own 3.3V supply.

The BeagleBone BATTERY Cape, supplies 5V to the DC in jack through 
expansion connector P9.5 and P9.6. The BBB should work like connected to 5V 
power supply to the 5V DC in Jack. 
You will need to use  alkaline batteries (cells) or rechargeable NiMH to 
get enough current; (the cape has the batteries connected in parallel, 
AFAIK you should not do this; the Tesla battery pack has each cell 
connected through PTC resistor/fuse). For the BeagleBone and USB Wi-Fi 
dongle to use 500mA, the batteries would have to supply 1A.
Perhaps, the Board ID Memory says it cannot supply enough power for USB 
host.


On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 14:28:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:

> When the BBB work on battery and come back to 5v the USB port doesn't 
> work !?
>
> Le 22/10/2020 à 15:13, robert.sty...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > Looking at BeagleBone Black rev C schematic and TPS65217C data sheet
> >
> > If the battery is connected to the Rechargeable Battery access pins 
> > (TP5/6/7/8 TESTPT1),
> > The battery feeds the USB HOST VBUS '5V' through SYS_5V, the 3V to 5V 
> > booster would have to be an inline adapter plugged into the USB HOST 
> > connector, this is slightly non trivial.
> > In theory, a booster input could be connected to SYS_5V on P9.7  
> > (ground to P9.1) and booster output to an USB hub power input with 
> > Wi-Fi plugged into hub, however many hubs let the 5V hub power flow 
> > back into the host.
> >
> > If a battery pack is just connected to the DC in Jack, the voltage 
> > should be 4.3V to 5.8V.
> > The battery pack could be connected to a 5V  booster input and the DC 
> > jack to booster output.
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 12:22:03 UTC+1 robert.sty...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Many Wi-Fi modules are designed for a Lithium cell which is 3V to
> > 4.2V.
> > The first thing the USB part does is reduce the USB 5V to 3.3V
> > You can boost the battery to 5V with something like
> > https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903
> >
> > On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 10:15:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I try to find an USB Wireless adaptors working at 5v and 3.3v
> > (When BBB
> > working on battery),
> > I checking a lot of key without success ...
> > Someone have an idea ?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -- 
> > -
> > Philippe Frossard 
> >
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: USB wireless adaptors at 3.3v ...

2020-10-22 Thread Philippe Frossard
When the BBB work on battery and come back to 5v the USB port doesn't 
work !?


Le 22/10/2020 à 15:13, robert.sty...@gmail.com a écrit :

Looking at BeagleBone Black rev C schematic and TPS65217C data sheet

If the battery is connected to the Rechargeable Battery access pins 
(TP5/6/7/8 TESTPT1),
The battery feeds the USB HOST VBUS '5V' through SYS_5V, the 3V to 5V 
booster would have to be an inline adapter plugged into the USB HOST 
connector, this is slightly non trivial.
In theory, a booster input could be connected to SYS_5V on P9.7  
(ground to P9.1) and booster output to an USB hub power input with 
Wi-Fi plugged into hub, however many hubs let the 5V hub power flow 
back into the host.


If a battery pack is just connected to the DC in Jack, the voltage 
should be 4.3V to 5.8V.
The battery pack could be connected to a 5V  booster input and the DC 
jack to booster output.



On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 12:22:03 UTC+1 robert.sty...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Many Wi-Fi modules are designed for a Lithium cell which is 3V to
4.2V.
The first thing the USB part does is reduce the USB 5V to 3.3V
You can boost the battery to 5V with something like
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903

On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 10:15:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:

Hi,
I try to find an USB Wireless adaptors working at 5v and 3.3v
(When BBB
working on battery),
I checking a lot of key without success ...
Someone have an idea ?
Thanks.

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[beagleboard] Re: USB wireless adaptors at 3.3v ...

2020-10-22 Thread robert.sty...@gmail.com
Looking at BeagleBone Black rev C schematic and TPS65217C data sheet 

If the battery is connected to the Rechargeable Battery access pins 
(TP5/6/7/8 TESTPT1),
The battery feeds the USB HOST VBUS '5V' through SYS_5V, the 3V to 5V 
booster would have to be an inline adapter plugged into the USB HOST 
connector, this is slightly non trivial. 
In theory, a booster input could be connected to SYS_5V on P9.7  (ground to 
P9.1) and booster output to an USB hub power input with Wi-Fi plugged into 
hub, however many hubs let the 5V hub power flow back into the host.

If a battery pack is just connected to the DC in Jack, the voltage should 
be 4.3V to 5.8V.
The battery pack could be connected to a 5V  booster input and the DC jack 
to booster output.


On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 12:22:03 UTC+1 robert.sty...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Many Wi-Fi modules are designed for a Lithium cell which is 3V to 4.2V.
> The first thing the USB part does is reduce the USB 5V to 3.3V
> You can boost the battery to 5V with something like 
> https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903
>
> On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 10:15:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I try to find an USB Wireless adaptors working at 5v and 3.3v (When BBB 
>> working on battery),
>> I checking a lot of key without success ...
>> Someone have an idea ?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
>> -
>> Philippe Frossard
>>
>>

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[beagleboard] Re: USB wireless adaptors at 3.3v ...

2020-10-22 Thread robert.sty...@gmail.com
Many Wi-Fi modules are designed for a Lithium cell which is 3V to 4.2V.
The first thing the USB part does is reduce the USB 5V to 3.3V
You can boost the battery to 5V with something like 
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903

On Thursday, 22 October 2020 at 10:15:28 UTC+1 pfrossard wrote:

> Hi,
> I try to find an USB Wireless adaptors working at 5v and 3.3v (When BBB 
> working on battery),
> I checking a lot of key without success ...
> Someone have an idea ?
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
> -
> Philippe Frossard
>
>

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