Re: [beagleboard] Re: Root login change?

2017-03-03 Thread William Hermans
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber 
wrote:

> Let me guess -- the next step will be to have the first connection
> to
> "debian/temppwd" require the user to change the password. 
>

Anyone with half a brain should already be doing that one their own. Or
expect to get "hacked". Quoting hacked, because it's not a hack, it's
stupidity on the users behalf.

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Root login change?

2017-03-03 Thread William Hermans
So let's imagine, someone gaining root access( known as rooting, or being
rooted ) to your system is feeling charitable, and only runs something like:


*WARNING - Do not do this ! You've been warned.*
# gzip -9 -r /

What do you suppose will happen, and then what do you suppose you will do
to fix this problem ? Removing files recursively + forcefully would
probably be more likely. But worse still, what if the attacker simply hides
a well written executable on your system some where ? Does this system
belong to a business that uses it in some way to deal with sensitive data ?
How secure if your local network ? What kind of damage are you most afraid
of happening to systems on your network ?

Just think about the above for a while until it sinks in.

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 6:28 AM, William Hermans  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber 
> wrote:
>
>> Let me guess -- the next step will be to have the first
>> connection to
>> "debian/temppwd" require the user to change the password. 
>>
>
> Anyone with half a brain should already be doing that one their own. Or
> expect to get "hacked". Quoting hacked, because it's not a hack, it's
> stupidity on the users behalf.
>

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Re: [beagleboard] Re: Root login change?

2017-03-03 Thread William Hermans
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber 
wrote:

>
>
> Well -- if I were exposing one to the wild, I'd probably delete the
> debian account too, after creating a new user account.
>
> That's understandable. One could actually just change the account name if
they wished, along with the home directory. This leaves UID as 1001, which
might be preferred for some cases. This has to be done as the root user,
but there is nothing really wrong with using root, when needed.

Anyway, I start to get "evangelical" when it comes to security, as I worked
in the security sector for a little while, and saw first hand the silly
things people do, because they do not understand the implications of not
operating a computer responsibly. Then these same people claim they've been
"hacked" when really,no, they were not. Theend result is that we start
seeing ( best case ) BotNET's with the ability to take down whole large
domains at a whim. Worse case, people or organizations have things stolen
form them.

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