RE: [Newbies] Re: Need a local tutor for Squeak

2016-05-16 Thread Ron Teitelbaum


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> From: beginners-boun...@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:beginners-
> boun...@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of askoh
> 
> In MeetUp, I go to a real place to meet real people. Great for popular
> activities.
> 
> But I would like to meet Smalltalkers once a month or a week for realtime
> conversations. There are too few or no one nearby who are interested. A
> virtual meeting place would be a great substitute. Is there such a website
or
> app?
> 
> Perhaps, in the future we can combine physical with virtual meetings
> simultaneously. A remote user can see the real meeting room and identify
> the person he wants to talk to. He then calls that person to start a
> conversation. Does such a capability exist?
> 
[Ron Teitelbaum] Right now I think your options are Facebook or google
hangouts.  There is also second life which used to have a lot of areas
dedicated for different activities like science and academia but it turned
into a ghost town for most of the useful areas.  I like the idea but need to
really think it through.  The real problem with 3d as I see it is that there
is a certain amount of investment required of users to learn and understand
the platform.  The activity needs to pay back that investment with something
useful.  We do well in education, training, counseling, and collaboration.
Places where the software provides sufficient benefits to the users to pay
back that investment.  MeetUp is a calendaring and coordination application.
It has a very low cost to users to use and understand and a minimal cost to
organizers, and a benefit that organizers can charge more than the cost to
members that participate.  I'm not sure that the same is true of a virtual
world.  We tried having google hangouts for Squeak people!  That was fun,
but difficult to coordinate.  It also quickly dropped off in attendance
after the first few meetings.  If someone would like to use Terf for Squeak
meetings, and we can organize something that would be useful to pay back
participants, I would be very interested.  Please feel free to contact me.
r...@3dicc.com.  What I would suggest is an agenda, speakers, training,
sprints, documentation days, programming contests, something like that.

All the best,

Ron Teitelbaum

> All the best,
> Aik-Siong Koh
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[Newbies] Re: Need a local tutor for Squeak

2016-05-16 Thread askoh
In MeetUp, I go to a real place to meet real people. Great for popular
activities.

But I would like to meet Smalltalkers once a month or a week for realtime
conversations. There are too few or no one nearby who are interested. A
virtual meeting place would be a great substitute. Is there such a website
or app?

Perhaps, in the future we can combine physical with virtual meetings
simultaneously. A remote user can see the real meeting room and identify the
person he wants to talk to. He then calls that person to start a
conversation. Does such a capability exist?

All the best,
Aik-Siong Koh



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RE: [Newbies] Re: Need a local tutor for Squeak

2016-05-16 Thread Ron Teitelbaum
Odd that I never got Aik-Siong Koh email!  Checked junk mail also but
nothing.  Did everyone else get it or am I missing something?  Ahh maybe the
email didn't go to beginn...@list.squeakfoundation.org?  

 

I have been thinking about something along those lines, something where
users could purchase a single license and then connect to various
organizations, events and activities.  This is the opposite of having an
organizer pay.  Either way it does seem like a good idea!  

 

Thanks for suggesting it.

 

All the best,

 

Ron Teitelbaum

 

 

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[mailto:beginners-boun...@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Joseph
Alotta
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Subject: [Newbies] Re: Need a local tutor for Squeak

 

It would be very hard to compete with meetup.  They have a moat because they
were first.  I run a meetup group and I have 1000 members, just because they
are on meetup and not somewhere else. 

Same thing for eBay.  Everyone hates it.  But it is where the buyers and the
sellers are. 

Sincerely, 

Joe. 


> On May 16, 2016, at 12:39 AM, askoh [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]>
wrote: 
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> Ron: 
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> Have you thought about a virtual equivalent to meetup.com? Is there
something available already? 
> 
> All the best, 
> Aik-Siong Koh 
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[Newbies] Re: Machine gun the Balloon!

2016-05-16 Thread kilon.alios
Dave that was a great post and I agree 100%

One of the things Stef says is that "Pharo is yours" but of course that
applies for all free software out there

So if you want to take Pharo or Squeak to any direction you are more than
welcomed and both communities are very friendly towards any kind of
contribution. But in end we all use Squeak or Pharo or both because it's a
ton of fun. 



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[Newbies] Re: Need a local tutor for Squeak

2016-05-16 Thread Joseph Alotta
It would be very hard to compete with meetup.  They have a moat because they 
were first.  I run a meetup group and I have 1000 members, just because they 
are on meetup and not somewhere else.

Same thing for eBay.  Everyone hates it.  But it is where the buyers and the 
sellers are.

Sincerely,

Joe.


> On May 16, 2016, at 12:39 AM, askoh [via Smalltalk] 
>  wrote:
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> Ron: 
> 
> Have you thought about a virtual equivalent to meetup.com? Is there something 
> available already? 
> 
> All the best, 
> Aik-Siong Koh 
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