Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
to shuffle around bits of text or jump from one window frame to another using familiar keyboard commands - well for me it's like coming to the surface of the water and being able to breathe again ;) This sounds like manna from heaven ... I tried loading SVI and got: This package depends on the following classes: CommandHistory Any idea where I find that? It does not tell me which other package to install, and there is no package called CommandHistory. Thank you !! ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
I have been pondering the same sorts of things, being something of an emacs junky. Today I discovered SVI, which implements vi-like or emacs-like key bindings for many editor panes (such as the class browser, work space). I am finding it a real boon. It doesn't change the way you interact with the smalltalk runtime at all, but when you want to shuffle around bits of text or jump from one window frame to another using familiar keyboard commands - well for me it's like coming to the surface of the water and being able to breathe again ;) You can find SVI in squeakmap - the one package has vi-like and emacs-like bindings. vi-like is the default but you just need to call a few methods to change over to a remarkably good rendition of the emacs editing experience (considering the author is a vi user). /Mark On 7/2/06, stéphane ducasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2 juil. 06, at 00:42, itsme213 wrote: > Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor > on an entire class and simply edit the file and "save" the entire > file (equivalently, "file-in" the string-buffer). I find I am > quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when > making a new class. > > I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those > steps. Basically you should try to avoid to fileout and file in all the time. The code browser is there to help you, shout the syntax editor can help you to find mistake. Writing Smalltalk in VI can be painful. I suggest you to: - save your image - save the category doing a fileout - use Monticello and save a package but work with the tools have a look at my videos they show all the steps to do one by one. http://www.listic.univ-savoie.fr/~ducasse/Resources.html/ > > Thanks. > ___ > Beginners mailing list > Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners -- Mark Aufflick e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
On 2 juil. 06, at 00:42, itsme213 wrote: Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor on an entire class and simply edit the file and "save" the entire file (equivalently, "file-in" the string-buffer). I find I am quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when making a new class. I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those steps. Basically you should try to avoid to fileout and file in all the time. The code browser is there to help you, shout the syntax editor can help you to find mistake. Writing Smalltalk in VI can be painful. I suggest you to: - save your image - save the category doing a fileout - use Monticello and save a package but work with the tools have a look at my videos they show all the steps to do one by one. http://www.listic.univ-savoie.fr/~ducasse/Resources.html/ Thanks. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
You have just described the problems with WebDAV... but the WebDAV group found a way to deal with the limitations. Which even works well with revision management systems. (There is a DAV server available in SqueakMap, though I haven't yet checked to see if it can handle sending the entire implementations of class and instance variables.) itsme213: There is a fairly complete vi-type implementation available on SqueakMap. I'm not sure what environment you're most familiar with. -Kyle H On 7/2/06, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am 02.07.2006 um 00:42 schrieb itsme213: > Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor > on an entire class and simply edit the file and "save" the entire > file (equivalently, "file-in" the string-buffer). I find I am > quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when > making a new class. > > I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those > steps. Making a textual snapshot of a Smalltalk class, editing it, and filing back in would be roughly equivalent to printing a photograph, editing it with a pencil, and scanning back into the computer. The class browser is a view onto the live class object, even though it appears to be a categorizing text editor. It's not. - Bert - ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
The class browser is a view onto the live class object, even though it appears to be a categorizing text editor. It's not. This is starting to sink in :-) Quite a nice change, and not too difficult, except for a wide-scale re-training of muscle memory on keyboard shortcuts. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
Re: [Newbies] Plain file editing
Am 02.07.2006 um 00:42 schrieb itsme213: Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor on an entire class and simply edit the file and "save" the entire file (equivalently, "file-in" the string-buffer). I find I am quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when making a new class. I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those steps. Making a textual snapshot of a Smalltalk class, editing it, and filing back in would be roughly equivalent to printing a photograph, editing it with a pencil, and scanning back into the computer. The class browser is a view onto the live class object, even though it appears to be a categorizing text editor. It's not. - Bert - ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
[Newbies] Plain file editing
Is there an easy way, within squeak itself, to open a text editor on an entire class and simply edit the file and "save" the entire file (equivalently, "file-in" the string-buffer). I find I am quicker with this than all the mousing around, specially when making a new class. I know I can file-out and file-in, but I am looking to avoid those steps. Thanks. ___ Beginners mailing list Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
