On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:43:41 +0100, Claus Kick wrote:

Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:50:58 +0100, Claus Kick wrote:

Mark Volkmann wrote:

That sounds great for applications with a web interface, but I wish there was a more attractive, easier way to do the same thing with Squeak-based non-web applications.

I think that is mainly a problem of Squeak though, not Smalltalk in general. I fully agree though, the UI system of Squeak is just not good.
Does it just look not good to you (have you checked UI-Enhancements/Polymorph) or what part of it do you mean?

No, I have yet to check Polymorph. I must be blind, but I dont see it on SqueakMap - where is it?

Polymorph (formerly UIEnhancements) is mentioned here,

- http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/133171.html

Other than the looks, I do not like the "feeling", the speed, the absence of native widgets (why do everything yourself? you have an OS to participate from!)

I'd appreciate your feedback on polymorph (feeling, widgets, "native", themes).

/Klaus

I know, even Cincom canned their "first new owner-drawn system, then on top of that native widgets if the platform allows"-Projects (Pollock/Panda/Chagall). Having worked a bit in that direction, I also know how tedious or more likely impossible a task this is.

Still, one has dreams or graphics contexts being written to the GPU directly ... hm, sounds like OpenGL, doesnt it?

--
"If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". Albert Einstein

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