[Newbies] Re: [squeak-dev] Nothing much [was: what is holding back Smalltalk?]

2008-11-21 Thread Steven W Riggins
I heard that google hired developers with deep Smalltalk  
experience


On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:28 AM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:02:47 +0100, Mark Volkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


I don't have a lot of experience with Smalltalk yet, but I really  
love what I've seen so far.


I'm curious what experienced Smalltalkers see as some of the  
reasons why it doesn't attract more attention.


Me thinks that the Smalltalk community is healthy and vibrant--it is  
just a community form one would not expect for Ruby or Python or  
Perl, etc. To get impression of my impression take a look at what  
*actually* happened during the *recent* months:


- Exupery (native x86 methods) powers Huemul
- Seaside (web++ framework++) powers GLASS
- Hydra (multiple parallel .images) powers Croquet .images
- Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
- two more gods to be worshipped in the VM temple ;)
- Squeak powers NewSpeak
- new book Squeak by Example (creative commons license)
- port of OpenDBX to Squeak (still not on windoze)
- port of Squeak/VM to another smartphone platform ;)
- DrGeo made it to the XO (OLPC)
- fresh new subcommunity Pharo
- attempt? to port Moose (world class sw analysis) to Squeak
- Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
- Squeak web site migrated to/powered by Aida/Web Squeak
- 4 (four) projects run through 2008's Goggle Summer of Code
- the everybody needs it Safara from GSoC as yet not in mainstream
- the everybody needs it Squeak GTK from GSoC as yet not in  
mainstream

- IBM builds Smalltalk IDE inside Eclipse
- Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
- ESUG 2008 conference draws more attendands than ever

That list is of course incomplete, for example one wants to add the  
many noobs who joined #squeak and the beginners mailing list.


I do not think that *soo* much is holding back Smalltalk ;)

/Klaus

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[Newbies] Re: [squeak-dev] Nothing much [was: what is holding back Smalltalk?]

2008-11-21 Thread Claus Kick

Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

Me thinks that the Smalltalk community is healthy and vibrant--it is  
just a community form one would not expect for Ruby or Python or 
Perl,  etc. To get impression of my impression take a look at what 
*actually*  happened during the *recent* months:


Why would one not expect this community for Ruby or Python or Perl? 
Could you please explain what you mean, for this puzzles me ...


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