Re: [Newbies] Re: Underscore in 3.9

2006-10-24 Thread Ramiro Diaz Trepat

Thank you Klaus.
Everything is fine now.
Probably that defaullt setting should be changed before the release,
shouldn't it?


On 10/24/06, Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Ramiro,

on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:23 +0200, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I started using the latest 3.9 image and there are no := there :)
 Only underscores.
 Even when I write := it turns into _ when I save.
 I am sure there is a very silly option out there to deactivate
 this behaviour.  Anyone can tell me?
 Thanks

Open Preference Browser and in the searchbox type
syntaxHighlightingAsYouType.

This will show up three underscore and := related preferences.

Unfortuntely the initial preferences in the stock 3.9 image are as you
desribed.

Have a look at the developer's image, there this (and other preferences)
are pre-set for meeting the expectations of developers, the image also
comes with cool tools pre-loaded

- http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier

/Klaus

___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


[Newbies] Re: Underscore in 3.9

2006-10-24 Thread Klaus D. Witzel

Thank you Andy!

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:36:30 +0200, Andrew Tween wrote:


Hi,
The syntaxHighlightingAsYouType* Preferences relate to the Shout  
package, which
is NOT  part of the 3.9 release. As you say, the preference values have  
been
fixed in the squeak-dev image (which includes Shout), and are also fixed  
in the

latest squeaksource version of Shout.

Unfortunately, the SqueakMap version of Shout is not up-to-date, and has  
the old
(confusing) default preference values. I will soon update the SqueakMap  
release

with the latest from squeaksource, and then everything should be ok.

Cheers,
Andy

- Original Message -
From: Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Underscore in 3.9


Stef  Marcus,

would it be possible to change all syntaxHighlightingAsYouType*
Preferences to values that do not cause confusion for beginners.

This was already done so for the Squeak-dev image.

Thank you very much in advance!

/Klaus

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:38:29 +0200, Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote:


Thank you Klaus.
Everything is fine now.
Probably that defaullt setting should be changed before the release,
shouldn't it?


On 10/24/06, Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Ramiro,

on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:23 +0200, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I started using the latest 3.9 image and there are no := there :)
 Only underscores.
 Even when I write := it turns into _ when I save.
 I am sure there is a very silly option out there to deactivate
 this behaviour.  Anyone can tell me?
 Thanks

Open Preference Browser and in the searchbox type
syntaxHighlightingAsYouType.

This will show up three underscore and := related preferences.

Unfortuntely the initial preferences in the stock 3.9 image are as you
desribed.

Have a look at the developer's image, there this (and other  
preferences)

are pre-set for meeting the expectations of developers, the image also
comes with cool tools pre-loaded

- http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier

/Klaus

___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners











___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


[Newbies] Re: Underscore in 3.9

2006-10-24 Thread Andrew Tween
Hi,
The syntaxHighlightingAsYouType* Preferences relate to the Shout package, which
is NOT  part of the 3.9 release. As you say, the preference values have been
fixed in the squeak-dev image (which includes Shout), and are also fixed in the
latest squeaksource version of Shout.

Unfortunately, the SqueakMap version of Shout is not up-to-date, and has the old
(confusing) default preference values. I will soon update the SqueakMap release
with the latest from squeaksource, and then everything should be ok.

Cheers,
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Underscore in 3.9


Stef  Marcus,

would it be possible to change all syntaxHighlightingAsYouType*
Preferences to values that do not cause confusion for beginners.

This was already done so for the Squeak-dev image.

Thank you very much in advance!

/Klaus

On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:38:29 +0200, Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote:

 Thank you Klaus.
 Everything is fine now.
 Probably that defaullt setting should be changed before the release,
 shouldn't it?


 On 10/24/06, Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Ramiro,

 on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:23 +0200, you wrote:

  Hello everyone,
  I started using the latest 3.9 image and there are no := there :)
  Only underscores.
  Even when I write := it turns into _ when I save.
  I am sure there is a very silly option out there to deactivate
  this behaviour.  Anyone can tell me?
  Thanks

 Open Preference Browser and in the searchbox type
 syntaxHighlightingAsYouType.

 This will show up three underscore and := related preferences.

 Unfortuntely the initial preferences in the stock 3.9 image are as you
 desribed.

 Have a look at the developer's image, there this (and other preferences)
 are pre-set for meeting the expectations of developers, the image also
 comes with cool tools pre-loaded

 - http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier

 /Klaus

 ___
 Beginners mailing list
 Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
 http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners





___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


Re: [Newbies] Re: Underscore in 3.9

2006-10-24 Thread Marcus Denker


On 24.10.2006, at 12:38, Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote:


Thank you Klaus.
Everything is fine now.
Probably that defaullt setting should be changed before the release,
shouldn't it?



The image doesn't have that preference.. it's Shout. Shout used
to take a preference into account that turned put ansi pretty-printing
on (means, pretty printer does :=, not _). This preference does
not exist anymore, the pretty printer does := by default.

But somehow shout reacts to the non-existing prefence to turn on
the := conversion.

I thought that this was fixes in Shout... but seemingly not.

It's not an image level problem.

Marcus



On 10/24/06, Klaus D. Witzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Ramiro,

on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:23 +0200, you wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I started using the latest 3.9 image and there are no :=  
there :)

 Only underscores.
 Even when I write := it turns into _ when I save.
 I am sure there is a very silly option out there to deactivate
 this behaviour.  Anyone can tell me?
 Thanks

Open Preference Browser and in the searchbox type
syntaxHighlightingAsYouType.

This will show up three underscore and := related preferences.

Unfortuntely the initial preferences in the stock 3.9 image are as  
you

desribed.

Have a look at the developer's image, there this (and other  
preferences)
are pre-set for meeting the expectations of developers, the image  
also

comes with cool tools pre-loaded

- http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier

/Klaus

___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners


[Newbies] Re: Underscore in 3.9

2006-10-23 Thread Klaus D. Witzel

Hi Ramiro,

on Tue, 24 Oct 2006 00:30:23 +0200, you wrote:


Hello everyone,
I started using the latest 3.9 image and there are no := there :)
Only underscores.
Even when I write := it turns into _ when I save.
I am sure there is a very silly option out there to deactivate
this behaviour.  Anyone can tell me?
Thanks


Open Preference Browser and in the searchbox type  
syntaxHighlightingAsYouType.


This will show up three underscore and := related preferences.

Unfortuntely the initial preferences in the stock 3.9 image are as you  
desribed.


Have a look at the developer's image, there this (and other preferences)  
are pre-set for meeting the expectations of developers, the image also  
comes with cool tools pre-loaded


- http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier

/Klaus

___
Beginners mailing list
Beginners@lists.squeakfoundation.org
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners