Re: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-26 Thread Damon Allen Davison
Alternative to all the other suggestions, you could get a shell account 
with one of a number of providers like www.freeshell.org and use Perl 
from there.  I think there may be some restrictions on Perl at the basic 
 membership levels, but I think it's safe to say that most such 
providers have Perl on their systems.

Best,
Damon
Ron Smith wrote:
Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a particular machine?
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A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread Ron Smith
I'm in a situation wherein I want to brush up on my 'Perl', but have no personal 
computer. I'm currently reading my way through Learning Pearl, but can't do the 
exercises because I only have access to 'Windows' machines that do not have Perl 
installed at all. Is there a way to use Perl on-line from such a machine? Is Perl 
small enough to be installed on a floppy disk that can be moved from machine to 
machine?
 
Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a particular machine?
 
TIA
Ron Smith
 




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Re: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread u235sentinel
I haven't used it myself however I understand there is Active Perl for 
Windows available.  I don't have any details but perhaps you could 
google for it or someone here could give you directions.

Ron Smith wrote:
I'm in a situation wherein I want to brush up on my 'Perl', but have no personal computer. I'm 
currently reading my way through Learning Pearl, but can't do the exercises because 
I only have access to 'Windows' machines that do not have Perl installed at all. Is there a way 
to use Perl on-line from such a machine? Is Perl small enough to be installed on a floppy disk 
that can be moved from machine to machine?
Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a particular machine?
TIA
Ron Smith

		
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Re: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread James Edward Gray II
On Jun 25, 2004, at 1:25 PM, u235sentinel wrote:
I haven't used it myself however I understand there is Active Perl 
for Windows available.  I don't have any details but perhaps you could 
google for it or someone here could give you directions.
No need to do this as it is available from http://www.perl.com/ with 
all the other distributions.

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Re: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread Wiggins d Anconia
 
 I'm in a situation wherein I want to brush up on my 'Perl', but have
no personal computer. I'm currently reading my way through Learning
Pearl, but can't do the exercises because I only have access to
'Windows' machines that do not have Perl installed at all. Is there a
way to use Perl on-line from such a machine? Is Perl small enough to be
installed on a floppy disk that can be moved from machine to machine?
  
 Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a
particular machine?
  

As the others have pointed out, you can install Perl on windows. You
*might* be able to get it to run from a CD provided the drive letter was
the same (but this is very theoretical, and might prove difficult).  If
you are at school there is bound to be a unix box of some sort around
that will have it installed, ask around and see if you can get an
account to play with Perl.  If not at school, you could certainly get a
cheap hosting account at an online hoster, pick one with shell access,
and practice up your Perl that way, of course that would be more
expensive than just buying a computer these days eventually. You could
probably get a computer on Ebay for less than $200 and install Linux to
avoid the M$ tax.

You might also visit a local Perl Mongers group and ask one of the
members if you could have access to their machine, one of them is bound
to have a server accessible from the internet and would consider giving
another member an account provided you didn't abuse it.

http://danconia.org


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Re: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread Remo Sanges
On Jun 25, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Wiggins d Anconia wrote:
I'm in a situation wherein I want to brush up on my 'Perl', but have
no personal computer. I'm currently reading my way through Learning
Pearl, but can't do the exercises because I only have access to
'Windows' machines that do not have Perl installed at all. Is there a
way to use Perl on-line from such a machine? Is Perl small enough to be
installed on a floppy disk that can be moved from machine to machine?
Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a
particular machine?

As the others have pointed out, you can install Perl on windows. You
*might* be able to get it to run from a CD provided the drive letter 
was
the same (but this is very theoretical, and might prove difficult).  If
you are at school there is bound to be a unix box of some sort around
that will have it installed, ask around and see if you can get an
account to play with Perl.  If not at school, you could certainly get a
cheap hosting account at an online hoster, pick one with shell access,
and practice up your Perl that way, of course that would be more
expensive than just buying a computer these days eventually. You could
probably get a computer on Ebay for less than $200 and install Linux to
avoid the M$ tax.

You might also visit a local Perl Mongers group and ask one of the
members if you could have access to their machine, one of them is bound
to have a server accessible from the internet and would consider giving
another member an account provided you didn't abuse it.
...or finally you can try with a linux-live distribution like knoppix:
http://www.knoppix.org/
It comes with perl like every linux... and a lot of other stuff and...
no configuration problems.
You don't need to install anithing, you need only the 'permissions' to
reboot the computer from cd and play with it until the end of the day!
Remo
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RE: A possibly stupid 'Perl' question?

2004-06-25 Thread Bob Showalter
Ron Smith wrote:
 ... I only have access to
 'Windows' machines that do not have Perl installed at all.
 Is there a way to use Perl on-line from such a machine?

Go to http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/ and install ActivePerl
(free).

 Is Perl small enough to
 be installed on a floppy disk that can be moved from machine to
 machine?  

Nope. It may have at one time.
http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.8.0/pod/perlhist.html

The ActiveState .msi installation image _will_ fit on a CD. 

 
 Is it possible to use 'Perl' without having to install it on a
 particular machine? 

Not really. There are various ways of bundling an application for
deployment on a target machine without having to install Perl separately.
You can also install Perl on a network share and run it that way I guess.

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