RE: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about Python and saysPerl is old news.

2004-10-01 Thread NYIMI Jose \(BMB\)


> -Original Message-
> From: Gabor Urban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about 
> Python and saysPerl is old news.
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> this thread seems to expand into something unworthy of this 
> mailing list. You can not compare a cup of tea with a horse, 
> these are two totally different things.
> 
> Both Perl and Python have it's place under the sun, both have 
> very good features, and some very difficult aspects, too. 
> Both can be perfect for the right tasks, but may be terrible 
> choices for others. THe real point if you write your code 
> correct, know what you are doing and make possible for others 
> to understand your source. The difference is between good and 
> poor developer. IMHO I could write this about any other 
> language, for example Cobol, too :-
> 
> I am doing Python programming for living now, but create 
> reports on my log useng Perl. Perfect, smooth and efficient.
> 

Agreed as well !

Could you guys keep this thread constructive or STOP it ... Please ?

Thx,

José.


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RE: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about Python and saysPerl is old news.

2004-10-01 Thread Gavin Henry
> Could you guys keep this thread constructive or STOP it ... Please ?
>

It's been very constructive for me :-)

I have just read this famous peice:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3882&mode=&order=&thold=


I am going to learn both and make up my own mind. I think that's the best
for any hacker.

Gavin.


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Re: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about Python and saysPerl is old news.

2004-10-01 Thread Nicolay A. Vasiliev
Absolutely :)
Gavin Henry wrote:
Could you guys keep this thread constructive or STOP it ... Please ?
   

It's been very constructive for me :-)
I have just read this famous peice:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3882&mode=&order=&thold=
I am going to learn both and make up my own mind. I think that's the best
for any hacker.
Gavin.
 

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Re: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about Python and saysPerl is old news.

2004-10-01 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Gavin" == Gavin Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Gavin> I have just read this famous peice:

Gavin> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3882&mode=&order=&thold=

I'm pretty sure that Eric Raymond is not fully aware of
test-first-development and Test::More and proper module packaging of
Perl.  Otherwise, he wouldn't keep spouting his "Perl sucks for big
projects" mantra.

Perl's object model is complete.  Perl scales well to large projects.
That Eric Raymond was unable to get it to scale is more telling about
Eric than about Perl.

I say this even though I consider Eric at least a strong acquaintence,
having met him on quite a few occasions.  Eric is doing a disservice
to the Perl community though, and on that, I cannot let stand.

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Re: Becoming Disenheartened - Everyone talks about Python and saysPerl is old news.

2004-10-01 Thread Gavin Henry
Randal L. Schwartz said:
>> "Gavin" == Gavin Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Gavin> I have just read this famous peice:
>
> Gavin>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3882&mode=&order=&thold=
>
> I'm pretty sure that Eric Raymond is not fully aware of
> test-first-development and Test::More and proper module packaging of
> Perl.  Otherwise, he wouldn't keep spouting his "Perl sucks for big
> projects" mantra.

Good to hear the other side of the coin.

>
> Perl's object model is complete.  Perl scales well to large projects.
> That Eric Raymond was unable to get it to scale is more telling about
> Eric than about Perl.

:-)

> I say this even though I consider Eric at least a strong acquaintence,
> having met him on quite a few occasions.  Eric is doing a disservice
> to the Perl community though, and on that, I cannot let stand.

Of course.

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