Re: custom module and lib

2011-02-08 Thread a b
Hi All,

I just tweak some of the regular modules under my lib and those who denied
made it as pre-reqs

I am still fighting for my exact solution


On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you got a solution, it could be helpful for those who will find this
 thread on the web if you would explain what you did.

 Octavian
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 From: a b testa...@gmail.com
  Thanks a lot all for your views!! i got my solution
 
  Regards,
  a b
 
  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  On 31/01/2011 09:27, a b wrote:
 
 
  Making it more clear.
 
  I want to make tar ball which contains my perl  scripts and no other
  dependencies required. like Net::Rsh,Net::Telnet etc
  once user untar it, he should be able to run it from anywhere without
 any
  extra perl modules. I am thinking that might be Net::Rsh etc is not
  available on target m/c
 
  With above requirement, i want Net::Rsh like modules to be in my lib.
 Not
  sure if i need to modify Rsh module to get rid of scoping Net::
 
  I want to simply use this module as use Rsh;
 
  Can some body let me know if i can make these modules to my lib :0
 
  help much appeciated!!!
 
 
  Do you have a special reason for wanting to rename Net::Rsh to Rsh? It
 is a
  dangerous thing to do, as there may well be code that relies on the name
 of
  the module being unchanged. In particular you will have to edit the
 Rsh.pm
  file to say 'package Rsh', and it thereby becomes non-standard and so a
  maintenance problem.
 
  It is worth noting that, by default, the last entry in @INC is '.' - the
  current directory - so perl will ultimately look in the same directory
 as
  the calling program for all modules if they are not found elsewhere. So
 you
  can simple bundle Net::Rsh in the same place as your main program and
 any
  other modules.
 
  HTH,
 
  Rob
 
 

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Re: custom module and lib

2011-02-03 Thread a b
Thanks a lot all for your views!! i got my solution

Regards,
a b

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 31/01/2011 09:27, a b wrote:


 Making it more clear.

 I want to make tar ball which contains my perl  scripts and no other
 dependencies required. like Net::Rsh,Net::Telnet etc
 once user untar it, he should be able to run it from anywhere without any
 extra perl modules. I am thinking that might be Net::Rsh etc is not
 available on target m/c

 With above requirement, i want Net::Rsh like modules to be in my lib. Not
 sure if i need to modify Rsh module to get rid of scoping Net::

 I want to simply use this module as use Rsh;

 Can some body let me know if i can make these modules to my lib :0

 help much appeciated!!!


 Do you have a special reason for wanting to rename Net::Rsh to Rsh? It is a
 dangerous thing to do, as there may well be code that relies on the name of
 the module being unchanged. In particular you will have to edit the Rsh.pm
 file to say 'package Rsh', and it thereby becomes non-standard and so a
 maintenance problem.

 It is worth noting that, by default, the last entry in @INC is '.' - the
 current directory - so perl will ultimately look in the same directory as
 the calling program for all modules if they are not found elsewhere. So you
 can simple bundle Net::Rsh in the same place as your main program and any
 other modules.

 HTH,

 Rob



Re: custom module and lib

2011-02-03 Thread Octavian Rasnita
If you got a solution, it could be helpful for those who will find this thread 
on the web if you would explain what you did.

Octavian
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From: a b testa...@gmail.com
 Thanks a lot all for your views!! i got my solution
 
 Regards,
 a b
 
 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 On 31/01/2011 09:27, a b wrote:


 Making it more clear.

 I want to make tar ball which contains my perl  scripts and no other
 dependencies required. like Net::Rsh,Net::Telnet etc
 once user untar it, he should be able to run it from anywhere without any
 extra perl modules. I am thinking that might be Net::Rsh etc is not
 available on target m/c

 With above requirement, i want Net::Rsh like modules to be in my lib. Not
 sure if i need to modify Rsh module to get rid of scoping Net::

 I want to simply use this module as use Rsh;

 Can some body let me know if i can make these modules to my lib :0

 help much appeciated!!!


 Do you have a special reason for wanting to rename Net::Rsh to Rsh? It is a
 dangerous thing to do, as there may well be code that relies on the name of
 the module being unchanged. In particular you will have to edit the Rsh.pm
 file to say 'package Rsh', and it thereby becomes non-standard and so a
 maintenance problem.

 It is worth noting that, by default, the last entry in @INC is '.' - the
 current directory - so perl will ultimately look in the same directory as
 the calling program for all modules if they are not found elsewhere. So you
 can simple bundle Net::Rsh in the same place as your main program and any
 other modules.

 HTH,

 Rob



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Re: custom module and lib

2011-01-31 Thread a b
Thanks much for your response!!

Making it more clear.

I want to make tar ball which contains my perl  scripts and no other
dependencies required. like Net::Rsh,Net::Telnet etc
once user untar it, he should be able to run it from anywhere without any
extra perl modules. I am thinking that might be Net::Rsh etc is not
available on target m/c

With above requirement, i want Net::Rsh like modules to be in my lib. Not
sure if i need to modify Rsh module to get rid of scoping Net::

I want to simply use this module as use Rsh;

Can some body let me know if i can make these modules to my lib :0

help much appeciated!!!

Regards,
a b

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Rob Dixon rob.di...@gmx.com wrote:

 On 30/01/2011 14:09, a b wrote:


 I have a query regarding using lib modules

 1) I've some custom modules which uses various default routines like
 Net::rsh etc

 Now, i want to pack all default routines into my lib and use that lib
 in my custom modules i.e

 package MyModule;

 use lib lib/test;(here i am placing my Rsh.pm etc modules and some of my
 custom modules)
 use Rsh;


 Is this possible???

 Please let me know how to go with this approach

 My motive is to create a main PM file which will call all small PM
 files(custom and defaults)


 I'm not clear what you need to do. What is a 'default routine'?

 At a guess you want to be able to access Net::Rsh as well as your own
 custom modules, in which case you probably don't understand how 'use lib'
 works, which is simply to add the path(s) you specify to the end of the list
 in @INC where perl will search for the modules you use. That means that,
 even after you have done 'use lib lib/test' you can still 'use Net::Rsh'
 and it will be found, as its location is still in @INC.

 For instance, something like

  use warnings;
  use strict;

  use lib 'lib/test';

  use Net::Rsh;
  use SpecialModule;

 will find Net/Rsh.pm whereever it is on your machine, as well as
 lib/test/SpecialModule.pm

 If this isn't what you're looking for then please post again.

 HTH,

 Rob



Re: custom module and lib

2011-01-31 Thread Octavian Rasnita

From: a b testa...@gmail.com

Thanks much for your response!!

Making it more clear.

I want to make tar ball which contains my perl  scripts and no other
dependencies required. like Net::Rsh,Net::Telnet etc
once user untar it, he should be able to run it from anywhere without any
extra perl modules. I am thinking that might be Net::Rsh etc is not
available on target m/c

With above requirement, i want Net::Rsh like modules to be in my lib. Not
sure if i need to modify Rsh module to get rid of scoping Net::

I want to simply use this module as use Rsh;

Can some body let me know if i can make these modules to my lib :0

help much appeciated!!!

Regards,
a b




This is not possible if those dependencies use C code, because they must be 
compiled differently depending on the platform they are running on.
This is the same no matter the programming language you use. If a module 
needs a .so file, under Windows it should be compiled as a .dll file.


If they are pure Perl, then you can bundle them in that tarball as a part of 
that distribution.


If you want to bundle more compiled Perl modules that use C code and use 
them under a specific platform and you don't need them to be portable, then 
you might be interested to create/install them as .deb or .rpm packages.


I don't know (and maybe others know more about this) if it is possible to 
compile Perl modules that use C code and then install them on the target 
platform by just copying them on a custom location.


Octavian




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custom module and lib

2011-01-30 Thread a b
Hello All,

I have a query regarding using lib modules

1) I've some custom modules which uses various default routines like
Net::rsh etc
Now, i want to pack all default routines into my lib and use that lib in my
custom modules
i.e

package MyModule;

use lib lib/test;(here i am placing my Rsh.pm etc modules and some of my
custom modules)
use Rsh;


Is this possible???

Please let me know how to go with this approach

My motive is to create a main PM file which will call all small PM
files(custom and defaults)

Thanks in Advance!


Re: custom module and lib

2011-01-30 Thread Rob Dixon

On 30/01/2011 14:09, a b wrote:


I have a query regarding using lib modules

1) I've some custom modules which uses various default routines like Net::rsh 
etc

Now, i want to pack all default routines into my lib and use that lib
in my custom modules i.e

package MyModule;

use lib lib/test;(here i am placing my Rsh.pm etc modules and some of my
custom modules)
use Rsh;


Is this possible???

Please let me know how to go with this approach

My motive is to create a main PM file which will call all small PM
files(custom and defaults)


I'm not clear what you need to do. What is a 'default routine'?

At a guess you want to be able to access Net::Rsh as well as your own 
custom modules, in which case you probably don't understand how 'use 
lib' works, which is simply to add the path(s) you specify to the end of 
the list in @INC where perl will search for the modules you use. That 
means that, even after you have done 'use lib lib/test' you can still 
'use Net::Rsh' and it will be found, as its location is still in @INC.


For instance, something like

  use warnings;
  use strict;

  use lib 'lib/test';

  use Net::Rsh;
  use SpecialModule;

will find Net/Rsh.pm whereever it is on your machine, as well as 
lib/test/SpecialModule.pm


If this isn't what you're looking for then please post again.

HTH,

Rob

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Re: custom module and lib

2011-01-30 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 03:37:14PM +, Rob Dixon wrote:
 On 30/01/2011 14:09, a b wrote:
 
 I have a query regarding using lib modules
 
 1) I've some custom modules which uses various default routines like 
 Net::rsh etc
 
 Now, i want to pack all default routines into my lib and use that lib
 in my custom modules i.e
 
 package MyModule;
 

 For instance, something like
 
   use warnings;
   use strict;
 
   use lib 'lib/test';
 
   use Net::Rsh;
   use SpecialModule;
 
 will find Net/Rsh.pm whereever it is on your machine, as well as
 lib/test/SpecialModule.pm

Well, as long as perl can see where the Net/Rsh.pm module is. Perl
won't search your entire disk for the module, but rather it will 
look in well known places. :-)

You'll want to put your SpecialModule in a well known place too if you
want perl to find it. Or you can take a look at local::lib on the
CPAN which can help you with precisely this.

Jeremiah

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