Re: practical perl guides
Hi On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:40, Erez Schatz wrote: > You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will > go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C > compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not > necessary, as you could use MinGW I guess a common misconception in the Perl/Win32 world is that using ActiveState Perl makes it 'more difficult' than using StrawberryPerl for compiling CPAN modules. This is no longer true, actually if you install the CPAN module in ActiveState you'll get a CPAN client + MinGW set up for you, which is pretty comparable to the way the CPAN client for StrawberryPerl works. There's no need anymore to fetch nmake.exe or install Visual Studio to compile an XS module. I think StrawberryPerl led to a great improvement for Perl on Win32 in general, and ActiveState Perl obviously benefits from that. Of course ActiveState Perl also led to immense improvements for Perl on Win32 as well! StrawberryPerl is more free than ActiveState, and the "IP indemnification" AS is offering makes me shudder. (ref: http://www.activestate.com/enterprise-edition) Gabor Szabo recently created a new Strawberry with Padre: http://padre.perlide.org/download.html and even what he calls "Strawberry Perl with Cream" - it's Perl, with Padre, but also other stuff as MongoDB, Dancer etc. See: http://szabgab.com/blog/2011/05/strawberry-perl-with-cream-5-12-3-v3-released.html About books to learn Perl: "The Perl Cookbook" is nice, but it is also 8 years old. You might better want to choose a more recent book, or at least a title that has been updated more recently. Already mentioned was "Modern Perl", which is a good recommendation, but of course the "Learning Perl", "Intermediate Perl" and "Mastering Perl" trilogy published by O'Reilly is great, as well as "Effective Perl Programming" by brian d foy. -- Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote: > > Hello erez , > what other tools utility is good in combination with strawberry? to make it > more efficient. > > Also where can I get input-output of a programm while using strawberry... > Look at NYTProf > I see that strawberry only compiles the programm...but tells/displays > nothing > about success or output of program.. > Success or failure is depends on your perspective if the program compiles - it is up to you to generate that output. Though, I've never used that branch of perl so its possible I'm missing something fundamental here are you clicking on your program or running it from cmd? Ie, show what you get from: type ... pls stop top posting!
Re: practical perl guides
Hello erez , what other tools utility is good in combination with strawberry? to make it more efficient. Also where can I get input-output of a programm while using strawberry... I see that strawberry only compiles the programm...but tells/displays nothing about success or output of program.. pls help me with this.if you have any documenation.. regds, abhay. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Erez Schatz wrote: > To explain myself, I was actually referring to building perl from > source on Win32 rather than using a distro. > > As for me, I use(d) strawberry simply because I found the ppa system > too cumbersome when I tried to combine it with cpan, and once perl > 5.10 came out, it started to drag back, so I switched, and didn't look > back. ActiveState may have fixed those issues, but I've been so happy > with Strawberry that I didn't even try them once I made the switch. > > On 1 June 2011 13:04, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw > wrote: > >>> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will > >>> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C > >>> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not > >>> necessary, as you could use MinGW > >> > > I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules. > > Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed. > > > > Sayth > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > Erez > > La perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'ya plus rien à ajouter, > mais quand il n'ya plus rien à retrancher. > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > >
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To explain myself, I was actually referring to building perl from source on Win32 rather than using a distro. As for me, I use(d) strawberry simply because I found the ppa system too cumbersome when I tried to combine it with cpan, and once perl 5.10 came out, it started to drag back, so I switched, and didn't look back. ActiveState may have fixed those issues, but I've been so happy with Strawberry that I didn't even try them once I made the switch. On 1 June 2011 13:04, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >>> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will >>> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C >>> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not >>> necessary, as you could use MinGW >> > I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules. > Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed. > > Sayth > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > -- Erez La perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'ya plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'ya plus rien à retrancher. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will >> go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C >> compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not >> necessary, as you could use MinGW > I thought activestate used MinGw and dmake for installing ppm modules. Having said that I do have strawberry perl installed. Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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You don't need Microsoft Visual Studio to install perl modules. I will go on a limb and assume here you're thinking of using MS Visual C compiler to compile perl and subsequent c modules, but even that's not necessary, as you could use MinGW On 1 June 2011 11:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi Sayth, > > On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011 08:54:11 Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary >> Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. >> >> What is the costly software that you would need to install? >> > > I was referring to this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > -- > - > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/ways_to_do_it.html > > Larry Wall *does* know all of Perl. However, he pretends to be wrong > or misinformed, so people will underestimate him. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > -- Erez La perfection soit atteinte non quand il n'ya plus rien à ajouter, mais quand il n'ya plus rien à retrancher. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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Hi Sayth, On Wednesday 01 Jun 2011 08:54:11 Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary > Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. > > What is the costly software that you would need to install? > I was referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/ways_to_do_it.html Larry Wall *does* know all of Perl. However, he pretends to be wrong or misinformed, so people will underestimate him. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Jun 1, 2011 1:56 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote: > > Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary > Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. > > What is the costly software that you would need to install? > 'Without' being the key word there. Take a look at activestate's products and licensing for an alternative (probably what Shlomi had in mind).
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Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. What is the costly software that you would need to install? Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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> "Shlomi" == Shlomi Fish writes: Shlomi> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, Shlomi> free-as-in- speech, community-driven, and allows you to install Shlomi> stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary Shlomi> and costly software from Microsoft. You should make use of the Shlomi> latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely 5.12.x , as Shlomi> 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x. And I'm interviewing Curtis Jewell for FLOSS Weekly in a few weeks! Yeay! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 13:10:05 +1000 , Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Hi > > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I > have found a read the baisc beginners guides here > http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to-perl-510-part-2.html. > > Was hoping to expand on this with some practical and hands on guides to perl. > > personally I struggle to learn from the this is a language feature format > like. > > This is feature X > - this is an impractical example of using feature X. > > This is feature Y > - this is an impractical example of using feature Y. > > I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a > example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and > here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language > features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language > feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to > refer to for that. Would descriptions with exercises help? If so, then _Learning Perl_ should do well. There are a couple of nits (it suggests calling subs with & which is unwise) but otherwise it's a fine text on which most of the experts here cut their teeth. _Beginning Perl_ is another suitable text (the first edition is available free online at http://p3rl.org/bp ). -- Chris Nehren | Coder, Sysadmin, Masochist Shadowcat Systems Ltd. | http://shadowcat.co.uk/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a example It sounds like what you want is the Perl Cookbook [0]. [0]: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565922433/ -- │ Magnus Woldrich │ m...@japh.se │ http://japh.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote: > > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me > > straighten things out :) > > > > That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my > perlish > > blurrier. > > What the hell? What do you mean by all that? > > > It's called irony. (shawn & Shawn)++, both of your comments made me giggle :) abhay: Stop being lazy - There are, fortunately or not, very few shortcuts to learning a new language. Program regularly, and pick your sources well (i.e. a good book, not as crappy web tutorial from ten years ago), that's about as much as you can do. Brian.
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Yes , I totally agree with Shlomi. pls some one let me know the good tool to learn perl as perlcritic is very complex On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote: > > On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote: > > > Hello > > > Which is best tool > > > > > > to learn the perl at home. > > > > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me > > straighten things out :) > > > > That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my > perlish > > blurrier. > > What the hell? What do you mean by all that? > > Regards, > >Shlomi Fish > > -- > - > Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ > Optimising Code for Speed - http://shlom.in/optimise > > A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes > what > went wrong more quickly. > > Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > >
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On Friday 27 May 2011 20:34:51 shawn wilson wrote: > On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote: > > Hello > > Which is best tool > > > > to learn the perl at home. > > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me > straighten things out :) > > That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my perlish > blurrier. What the hell? What do you mean by all that? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Optimising Code for Speed - http://shlom.in/optimise A more experienced programmer does not make less bugs. He just realizes what went wrong more quickly. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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> "av" == abhay vyas writes: av> I wanted to know the easy tool which can be installed on your home av> pc or laptop and start doing practice using a book and get the av> conceptual clarity there is no such tool for any language. best to get a good book (beginning perl is free to download at learn.perl.org) and read it. conceptual clarity is a buzzword that doesn't carry much weight. you need to learn a language from the ground up, not from concepts. perl is easy to learn the basics but it is deep and has many things that take time to learn. the only way is to put in the time and effort. there is no shortcut tool. uri -- Uri Guttman -- u...@stemsystems.com http://www.sysarch.com -- - Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support -- - Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix http://bestfriendscocoa.com - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 15:45, abhay vyas wrote: > I wanted to know > the easy tool which can be installed on your home pc or laptop and start > doing practice using a book and get the conceptual clarity > > you're really going to hijack a thread? i won't comment on the question sense this is a 'beginners' list, but manners are always a plus. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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I wanted to know the easy tool which can be installed on your home pc or laptop and start doing practice using a book and get the conceptual clarity regds, On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > On 11-05-27 01:10 PM, abhay vyas wrote: > >> Which is best tool >> >> to learn the perl at home. >> > > A computer. :D > > > -- > Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, > Shawn > > Confusion is the first step of understanding. > > Programming is as much about organization and communication > as it is about coding. > > The secret to great software: Fail early & often. > > Eliminate software piracy: use only FLOSS. > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > >
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On 11-05-27 01:10 PM, abhay vyas wrote: Which is best tool to learn the perl at home. A computer. :D -- Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, Shawn Confusion is the first step of understanding. Programming is as much about organization and communication as it is about coding. The secret to great software: Fail early & often. Eliminate software piracy: use only FLOSS. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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On May 27, 2011 1:11 PM, "abhay vyas" wrote: > > Hello > Which is best tool > > to learn the perl at home. > When my perlish gets a bit fuzzy, a strong drink at a bar always helps me straighten things out :) That said, I use 'perl -e' if I'm fuzzy and the drink only made my perlish blurrier.
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Hello Which is best tool to learn the perl at home. regds, abhay On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Jonathan Harris wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sayth Renshaw >wrote: > > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > >> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > >>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? > 5.10 > > or > > >>> 5.12? > > >> > > >> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, > > free-as-in- > > >> speech, community-driven, > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although > > > 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that). > > > > > >> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without > > >> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from > > Microsoft. > > > > > > ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or > > > via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from > > > Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the > > > cpan install tool will also build from scratch. > > > > > >> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - > > namely > > >> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now > > perl-5.14.x. > > > > > > At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from > > > http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has > > > lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues) > > > included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and > > > should be available in a few weeks. > > > > > > 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that > > > won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants > > > to volunteer to help). > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > > > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had > > been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12 > > and its installed and working by default now. > > > > Sayth > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > > > > > > Hi > > I recommend the book, Beginning Perl, by Simon Cozens > I'm a total newbie to programming and am finding it clear and instructional > It really does > " This is feature X > - this is an impractical (or not) example of using feature X." > > Jon >
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote: > >>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 > or > >>> 5.12? > >> > >> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, > free-as-in- > >> speech, community-driven, > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although > > 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that). > > > >> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without > >> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from > Microsoft. > > > > ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or > > via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from > > Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the > > cpan install tool will also build from scratch. > > > >> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - > namely > >> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now > perl-5.14.x. > > > > At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from > > http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has > > lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues) > > included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and > > should be available in a few weeks. > > > > 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that > > won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants > > to volunteer to help). > > > > Cheers > > > > Leo > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had > been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12 > and its installed and working by default now. > > Sayth > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > Hi I recommend the book, Beginning Perl, by Simon Cozens I'm a total newbie to programming and am finding it clear and instructional It really does " This is feature X - this is an impractical (or not) example of using feature X." Jon
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On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Leo Lapworth wrote: > Hi, > > On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: >> On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote: >>> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or >>> 5.12? >> >> Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in- >> speech, community-driven, > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although > 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that). > >> and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without >> having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft. > > ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or > via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from > Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the > cpan install tool will also build from scratch. > >> You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely >> 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x. > > At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from > http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has > lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues) > included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and > should be available in a few weeks. > > 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that > won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants > to volunteer to help). > > Cheers > > Leo > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org > For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org > http://learn.perl.org/ > > > Thanks for the tip especially about strawberry professional, I had been watching Padre fail too install for the past hour or so on 5.12 and its installed and working by default now. Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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Hi, On 27 May 2011 10:26, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or >> 5.12? > > Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in- > speech, community-driven, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RHYPM6e55o shows the steps (although 5.12.3 is out so I must updated that). > and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without > having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft. ActiveState claim to now includes all the build code automatically or via PPM (MiniGW / dmake) so you don't need to buy anything from Microsoft. You can use their PPM modules (already compiled) but the cpan install tool will also build from scratch. > You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely > 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x. At the moment I'd recommend Strawberry Perl Professional (from http://strawberryperl.com/beta/) even though it is 5.10 because it has lots of extra CPAN modules (the ones with tricky install issues) included, I've been told a Pro version for 5.12 is being worked on and should be available in a few weeks. 5.14 is being worked on for Strawberry - but my understanding is that won't have the 'Pro' version for quite a while (unless someone wants to volunteer to help). Cheers Leo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
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Hi Sayth, On Friday 27 May 2011 07:20:30 Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Hi > > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I > have found a read the baisc beginners guides here > http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to-perl-510-part- > 2.html. > > I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a > example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and > here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language > features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language > feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to > refer to for that. > Maybe try my own "Perl for Perl Newbies": http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/perl-for-newbies/ (Though it has some issues.) There are other stuff referenced in the various pages of http://perl-begin.org/ . The Perl cookbook should be interesting (but it's a proprietary book). Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ "Star Trek: We, the Living Dead" - http://shlom.in/st-wtld Chuck Norris once wrote a 10 million lines C++ program in Microsoft Notepad without having to use the backspace key. And it compiled without errors or warnings, and was 100% bug-free. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
Re: practical perl guides
On Friday 27 May 2011 09:35:32 Sayth Renshaw wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:30 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > >> On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote: > >>> On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote: > >>> > Hi > >>> > > >>> > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. > >>> > >>> How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you > >>> can > >> > >> download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because > >> I haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH > >> > >> Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook. > > > > Thanks there is a lot at http://perldoc.perl.org/index-tutorials.html > > Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or > 5.12? Definitely Strawberry Perl: it is free-as-in-beer, open-source, free-as-in- speech, community-driven, and allows you to install stuff from CPAN without having to resort to a lot of proprietary and costly software from Microsoft. You should make use of the latest version of perl 5 available for it - namely 5.12.x , as 5.10.x was recently end-of-lifed, and there's now perl-5.14.x. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ "Humanity" - Parody of Modern Life - http://shlom.in/humanity If you repeat a scene 50k times, then the movie will have less entropy and will compress better. ( irc://irc.freenode.org/#perlcafe ) Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
Re: practical perl guides
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 3:30 PM, shawn wilson wrote: >> On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote: >>> >>> >>> On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi >>> > >>> > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. >>> >>> How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can >> download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I >> haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH >> >> Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook. >> > > Thanks there is a lot at http://perldoc.perl.org/index-tutorials.html > Which Perl Should I use ActivePerl or Strawberry Perl on Windows? 5.10 or 5.12? Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
Re: practical perl guides
On May 27, 2011 1:28 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote: > > > On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. > > How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH Ah, almost forgot - the perl cookbook.
Re: practical perl guides
On May 27, 2011 12:21 AM, "Sayth Renshaw" wrote: > > Hi > > Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. How about the 10 or so docs that 'perldoc perldoc' references. Or you can download 'modern perl' for free - can't comment much on the book because I haven't read much of it but it seemed to be good. HTH
practical perl guides
Hi Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I have found a read the baisc beginners guides here http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to-perl-510-part-2.html. Was hoping to expand on this with some practical and hands on guides to perl. personally I struggle to learn from the this is a language feature format like. This is feature X - this is an impractical example of using feature X. This is feature Y - this is an impractical example of using feature Y. I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to refer to for that. Thanks in advance Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
practical perl guides
Hi Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I have found a read the baisc beginners guides here http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to-perl-510-part-2.html. Was hoping to expand on this with some practical and hands on guides to perl. personally I struggle to learn from the this is a language feature format like. This is feature X - this is an impractical example of using feature X. This is feature Y - this is an impractical example of using feature Y. I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to refer to for that. Thanks in advance Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
practical perl guides.
Hi Wanted to ask a question about practical beginners guides for perl. I have found a read the baisc beginners guides here http://www.perl.com/pub/2008/05/07/beginners-introduction-to-perl-510-part-2.html. Was hoping to expand on this with some practical and hands on guides to perl. personally I struggle to learn from the this is a language feature format like. This is feature X - this is an impractical example of using feature X. This is feature Y - this is an impractical example of using feature Y. I am looking for a practical guide something that says here is a example tasks you'll want to achieve this is how its put together and here a some ways to alter it change it etc using these language features... there you go son have a crack. Really if a language feature confuses me I can more than likely find a library reference to refer to for that. Thanks in advance Sayth -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/
