Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread Nick Malden

Thanks for the suggestions.

The problem is that for these META-tags to work, they have to be in the
header, not the body of the HTML. Thus if I use 

#*** Start HTML stuff *** 
print $q-header,
  $q-start_html(-title='New page',
 -style={'src'='mystyle.css'});

and then do the suggested:

print _META_TAGS_; 

the META tags appear in the body of the text and are then ineffective.

Seeing as CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, as you found out,
perhaps the answer is not to be generating the header using CGI.pm at all,
but simply using standard print statements.

Nick

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Michael Kelly wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:
 
 Hi Nick,
 
  When writing HTML, the trick I normally use to ensure that images etc are
  definitely the latest version, and not the cached version, is the
  following:
  
  META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
  META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache
 [snip]
  How does one get perl produce the equivalent of the META tags above?
 
 CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the documentation.
 What about something as simple as:
 
 print _META_TAGS_;
 META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
 META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache
 _META_TAGS_
 
 IMNSHO, CGI.pm shines when you're getting form input, printing forms or tables
 dynamically, or messing with cookies. With something as straight-forward as
 printing out meta-tags and headers, though, I personally feel it's drastic
 overkill.


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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread fliptop
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 13:58, Michael Kelly opined:

MK:On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:
MK:
MK:CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the documentation.
MK:What about something as simple as:

what?  snippet from perldoc CGI:

To create an HTTP-EQUIV type of meta tag, use -head, described below.



And here's how to create an HTTP-EQUIV meta tag:

print start_html(-head=meta({-http_equiv = 'Content-Type',
  -content= 'text/html'}))


the error associated with the original post's code was due to the fact 
that the syntax was not correct.  the solution that CGI.pm provides means 
that, even if the syntax is corrected, it still won't work.  use the -head 
method described in the CGI docs.


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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread Nick Malden

Perl/CGI really doesn't seem to like this way of doing META tags. I've
trimmed the irrelevant stuff, am the core of what I'm trying is the
following:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
use POSIX;  
use CGI; 
$q = new CGI; 
print $q-header,
  $q-start_html(-title='New page',
 -head=meta({-http_equiv = 'Content-Type',
  -content = 'text/html'}));
print EOT;
This is the generated HTML. 
/body 
/html
EOT

In my browser (netscape) I get a 500 Internal Server error, or run from
a shell I get:

Undefined subroutine main::meta called at test.pl line 7.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Nick


On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, fliptop wrote:

 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 13:58, Michael Kelly opined:
 
 MK:On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:
 MK:
 MK:CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the documentation.
 MK:What about something as simple as:
 
 what?  snippet from perldoc CGI:
 
 To create an HTTP-EQUIV type of meta tag, use -head, described below.
 
 ...
 
 And here's how to create an HTTP-EQUIV meta tag:
 
 print start_html(-head=meta({-http_equiv = 'Content-Type',
   -content= 'text/html'}))
 
 
 the error associated with the original post's code was due to the fact 
 that the syntax was not correct.  the solution that CGI.pm provides means 
 that, even if the syntax is corrected, it still won't work.  use the -head 
 method described in the CGI docs.
 


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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread Mark Bergeron
sub mainHeader{
print $q-header( -type = text/html, -expires = now ),
  $q-start_html( -title = Your Title);

This has always worked for me. I don't know if will do everything for you.

-Original Message-
From: Nick Malden[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed Nov 20 06:02:05 PST 2002
Subject: Non-caching META-tags


When writing HTML, the trick I normally use to ensure that images etc are
definitely the latest version, and not the cached version, is the
following:

META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache

I want to do the same thing in a page generated by perl/cgi, i.e something
like:

print $q-header,
  $q-start_html(-title='My new page',
-meta={'http-equiv'='Cache-Control' 
'content'='no-cache,must-revalidate'})
-meta={'http-equiv'='Pragma: no-cache'});

but this gives 

String found where operator expected at test.pl line 20, near
'Cache-Control' 'content'

How does one get perl produce the equivalent of the META tags above?


Nick 

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RE: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread VERHAEGHE Koen (BMB)
Hi,

Try using

use CGI qw/:standard/;

Works for me

Cheers
Koen

-Original Message-
From: Nick Malden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:39 PM
To: fliptop
Cc: Michael Kelly; Perl Beginners CGI List
Subject: Re: Non-caching META-tags



Perl/CGI really doesn't seem to like this way of doing META tags. I've
trimmed the irrelevant stuff, am the core of what I'm trying is the
following:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
use POSIX;  
use CGI; 
$q = new CGI; 
print $q-header,
  $q-start_html(-title='New page',
 -head=meta({-http_equiv = 'Content-Type',
  -content = 'text/html'}));
print EOT;
This is the generated HTML. 
/body 
/html
EOT

In my browser (netscape) I get a 500 Internal Server error, or run
from a shell I get:

Undefined subroutine main::meta called at test.pl line 7.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Nick


On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, fliptop wrote:

 On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 13:58, Michael Kelly opined:
 
 MK:On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:
 MK:
 MK:CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the 
 documentation. MK:What about something as simple as:
 
 what?  snippet from perldoc CGI:
 
 To create an HTTP-EQUIV type of meta tag, use -head, described 
 below.
 
 ...
 
 And here's how to create an HTTP-EQUIV meta tag:
 
 print start_html(-head=meta({-http_equiv = 'Content-Type',
   -content= 'text/html'}))
 
 
 the error associated with the original post's code was due to the fact
 that the syntax was not correct.  the solution that CGI.pm provides
means 
 that, even if the syntax is corrected, it still won't work.  use the
-head 
 method described in the CGI docs.
 


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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-21 Thread fliptop
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 at 08:09, Michael Kelly opined:

MK:On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:19:37AM -0500, fliptop wrote:
MK: On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 13:58, Michael Kelly opined:
MK: 
MK: MK:On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:
MK: MK:
MK: MK:CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the documentation.
MK: MK:What about something as simple as:
MK: 
MK: what?  snippet from perldoc CGI:
MK: 
MK: To create an HTTP-EQUIV type of meta tag, use -head, described below.
MK:
MK:Hrm, I must have an old version (2.56). From perldoc CGI, line 1013:
MK:
MK: There is no support for the HTTP-EQUIV type of META tag.
MK:
MK:Looks like I need to update. Sorry for the misinformation!

yeah - the latest version is 2.89, released october 16th.

http://search.cpan.org/author/LDS/CGI.pm-2.89/


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Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-20 Thread Nick Malden

When writing HTML, the trick I normally use to ensure that images etc are
definitely the latest version, and not the cached version, is the
following:

META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache

I want to do the same thing in a page generated by perl/cgi, i.e something
like:

print $q-header,
  $q-start_html(-title='My new page',
-meta={'http-equiv'='Cache-Control' 
'content'='no-cache,must-revalidate'})
-meta={'http-equiv'='Pragma: no-cache'});

but this gives 

String found where operator expected at test.pl line 20, near
'Cache-Control' 'content'

How does one get perl produce the equivalent of the META tags above?


Nick 

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Hamburg.




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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-20 Thread fliptop
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 at 14:02, Nick Malden opined:

NM:print $q-header,
NM:  $q-start_html(-title='My new page',
NM:-meta={'http-equiv'='Cache-Control' 
'content'='no-cache,must-revalidate'})
NM:-meta={'http-equiv'='Pragma: no-cache'});
NM:
NM:but this gives 
NM:
NM:String found where operator expected at test.pl line 20, near
NM:'Cache-Control' 'content'

are you missing a comma and a greater than sign there?

-meta={'http-equiv'='Cache-Control',
 ^ 
'content'='no-cache,...' }
  ^


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Re: Non-caching META-tags

2002-11-20 Thread Michael Kelly
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:02:05PM +, Nick Malden wrote:

Hi Nick,

 When writing HTML, the trick I normally use to ensure that images etc are
 definitely the latest version, and not the cached version, is the
 following:
 
 META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
 META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache
[snip]
 How does one get perl produce the equivalent of the META tags above?

CGI.pm doesn't support http-equiv meta-tags, according to the documentation.
What about something as simple as:

print _META_TAGS_;
META http-equiv=Cache-Control content=no-cache, must-revalidate
META http-equiv=Pragma: no-cache
_META_TAGS_

IMNSHO, CGI.pm shines when you're getting form input, printing forms or tables
dynamically, or messing with cookies. With something as straight-forward as
printing out meta-tags and headers, though, I personally feel it's drastic
overkill.

Hope that helps somewhat,
-- 
Michael

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