RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Teresa,

Here is a link:
  http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/#top

And I'm hoping Joye is swamped with mail for the fundraiser! Of course,
I'm hoping that the paintings of the puppies just get to stay here with
me. If they do, I'll donate the cost of mailing them to Berner-Garde as
well! It's just the selfless sort of person I am!

VBG

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berewyn PA




Sos!

2003-08-21 Thread hvwhitney
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re:pine gum

2003-08-21 Thread tatie

Also Avon's Skin so Soft gets the gum out and leaves the dogs smelling much better!! 
Tracy 
North Saanch 
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Moses, My Buddy
Forgive my ignorance but what the heck is a Seekonk? Being a Canuck, I 
only understand stuff like Moosejaw and Spuzzum.  Oh well. Anyway, may I 
extend my sincere congratulations on your 9'th birthday.  You are an 
inspiration to all us Berners, and the way you've trained your person, 
Lisa, is nothing short of amazing.  Milk it for all it's worth - that's 
what birthdays are for.  You rule, Buddy!

Felicitations!
Sisco Jones
West Vancouver, BC
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RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Andrea Brin
i think it ends today.
andrea
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser


berner.org- homepage
towards the bottom of the menu on the right.


 Original Message - 
From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser


 SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner
 fundraiser .. when does it end ???
 
 Is Joye ok ..??
 
 how about a link to the web page??
 
 Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
 





Stop OnlinePetAuction.com

2003-08-21 Thread _Adam Conn
If you want to help stop this site, cut 'em off at the
pass. Request that Knoxnetwork.net no longer provide
DNS service to the site.

http://www.knoxnetwork.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=anonemailsendto=CompanyEmail

You provide DNS service for OnlinePetAuction.com. This
auction site has been started allowing people to
auction off pets to the highest bidder. This
encouragement of puppymillers and backyard breeders
will result in more suffering, unhealthy animals, and
will contribute to the overpopulation problem.

Please discontinue any service you provide to this domain.

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Re:lapto vaccine

2003-08-21 Thread mzebley
Lisa,
Leptospirosis is a disease that is not caused by a virus, unlike 
most of our problems.  It is caused by a type of bacteria.  There 
are many different strains, only a few of which actually cause 
disease.  Unfortunately, all my vet books are in storage, so this is 
coming from memory, and may be sketchy on some details.  
There are 5 strains that are the main causes of disease. (I'm 
not even going to attempt to recall what the different strains are 
called. G)  Most vaccines only have 2 of those strains, and the 
strains are NOT cross-protective - which means even if you have 
immunity to one, that immunity will not protect you against a 
different strain.  The new Fort Dodge lepto vaccine is the only one I 
know of that protects against 4 of those 5 pathogenic strains - the 
5th I believe is really only seen somewhere overseas, like Asia or 
something.
Now the older lepto vaccines were definitely prone to causing 
vaccine reactions.  That was our biggest cause of reactions.  At 
the time we were using it, we had not seen or heard of a lepto case 
in the area in years, so I decided we would just drop that from our 
vaccine protocol.  Lo and behold, our reaction incidence dropped.
Since then, we have actually had about a half dozen cases 
seen in at the specialty practice about an hour away.  Not only can 
leptospirosis be very serious in dogs (several of the dogs infected 
wound up with permanent liver or kidney damage, and at least 1 
died), but it is also zoonotic, meaning that people can get it too.  
At least one technician involved with treating these cases became 
ill, and quite a few of the other staff had to be tested or treated.
Lepto affects the kidneys and/or liver, primarily.  It is passed 
through contaminated urine.  Contaminated urine that is either 
swallowed (know that sounds gross, but I'm thinking of our dogs 
drinking from puddles) or absorbed into the body thorugh mucus 
membranes or an open cut or wound.  Since a lot of us would wipe 
up where our dogs have peed without wearing gloves and not think 
twice about it, this is a potential source of infection.
Since lepto is serious, can be passed to humans, and had 
been definitively diagnosed nearby, we decided to again begin 
vaccinating for it.  Fortunately, we have a new vaccine (the one I 
mentioned before - made by Fort Dodge) that does cover the 
strains usually seen in the US.  In addition, the Fort Dodge rep told 
me that they've done something different with the new vaccine so 
that they are seeing fewer reactions.  Now, I don't know about all 
that, but I can say that I have not seen ANY reactions since we 
switched just under a year ago - and while I'm not doing a lot in my 
private practice, we do vaccinate a LOT of dogs at the shelter, none 
of whom have had a problem.
One thing we do that probably helps that is that we do not give 
very young or very little puppies the lepto portion of the vaccine.  
Puppies must be at least 10 weeks before we will include lepto, 
and small breed dogs more like 14 weeks.  We do not give it 
separately, but that does not seem to have been an issue for us.
Anyway, I would advise checking to see what brand of vaccine 
your vet is using.  If it is not the Fort Dodge lepto, I would be much 
less inclined to use it.  (And I don't have any stock in Ft. Dodge, 
just like their vaccines. G) Then check around to see if lepto is 
being seen in the area.  You can check with your local health 
department for human cases, and either the state vet or a nearby 
specialty vet practice to see if any animal cases have been seen.  
If they are not seeing it, and you are not traveling out of the area 
with your dog, I would probably not give it - but be aware that the 
dog is not protected against it.  On the other hand, if there have 
been cases, or if you travel, then I would give it, provided it's the 
Fort Dodge version.  Both of my dogs are now vaccinated against 
it. Plus, I have vaccinated at least a dozen berners with the Fort 
Dodge vaccine that includes lepto, including several puppies, none 
of which had any adverse reactions to it.
I hope this helps you.  If you have further questions, feel free to 
post me.  

Melissa

On 20 Aug 03, at 0:01, MARK  LISA DUVALL [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 I had a question about the lepto vaccine...I know
 there was some discussion a while back but can't seen
 to find anything on it. 
 I am not sure if I want to give this shot to my 13 wk.
 bmd girl. I have heard of bad reactions to this and
 also that there are new strains that the vaccine don't
 cover. On the other hand the lepto virus itself sounds
 so bad that I'm scared not to give it. I am curious to
 know if anyone has had any bad reactions to the
 vaccine. I live in Maryland and I'm not sure if it's
 prevalent in my area?? My vet suggests it but also
 said he has had a few dogs over the years who have had
 bad reactions to it. 

RE: Stop OnlinePetAuction.com

2003-08-21 Thread Caldwell, Liz
Unfortunately, that ISP is run by Glenn Knox, who also runs the USABreeders
site and is involved with APRI. He helped design the onlinepetauction site. 

Liz Caldwell
Lawrence, KS

 -Original Message-
 From: _Adam Conn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Stop OnlinePetAuction.com
 
 
 If you want to help stop this site, cut 'em off at the
 pass. Request that Knoxnetwork.net no longer provide
 DNS service to the site.
 
 http://www.knoxnetwork.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=anonemail;
sendto=CompanyEmail

You provide DNS service for OnlinePetAuction.com. This
auction site has been started allowing people to
auction off pets to the highest bidder. This
encouragement of puppymillers and backyard breeders
will result in more suffering, unhealthy animals, and
will contribute to the overpopulation problem.

Please discontinue any service you provide to this domain.

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RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the 
official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for 
your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY
Visit the website and send me your money!!

http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/

Joye Neff and Nicky!
Pittsburgh, PA
--On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r

i think it ends today.
andrea
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
berner.org- homepage
towards the bottom of the menu on the right.
 Original Message -
From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner
fundraiser .. when does it end ???
Is Joye ok ..??

how about a link to the web page??

Teresa, Patriot and Romeo








RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Andrea Brin

well at least i got two things right it ends in august and on a two digit
that has a one in it. but there are ten more days left. so now i can send
another check for the new items. i saw the etching and it is magnificent. so
are the people who made it happen.
andrea
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser


Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the
official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for
your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY
Visit the website and send me your money!!

http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/

Joye Neff and Nicky!
Pittsburgh, PA

--On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r

 i think it ends today.
 andrea
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser


 berner.org- homepage
 towards the bottom of the menu on the right.


  Original Message -
 From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM
 Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser


 SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner
 fundraiser .. when does it end ???

 Is Joye ok ..??

 how about a link to the web page??

 Teresa, Patriot and Romeo










RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Hi Andrea,

You got more than two things right!!!With the check you sent on August 
5th and the other check you are sending, you get LOTS of points in my 
book

Joye Neff and Nick (and Ben)
Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA
--On Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:10 PM -0400 Andrea Brin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r

well at least i got two things right it ends in august and on a two digit
that has a one in it. but there are ten more days left. so now i can send
another check for the new items. i saw the etching and it is magnificent.
so are the people who made it happen.
andrea
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until
the official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week
for your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY
Visit the website and send me your money!!
http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/

Joye Neff and Nicky!
Pittsburgh, PA
--On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r
i think it ends today.
andrea
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
berner.org- homepage
towards the bottom of the menu on the right.
 Original Message -
From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM
Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner
fundraiser .. when does it end ???
Is Joye ok ..??

how about a link to the web page??

Teresa, Patriot and Romeo












Red eyes

2003-08-21 Thread Mike Gonzales
BlankMy BMD pup of 7 months has been having red eyes with yellowish
discharge for a couple weeks. My vet hasn't been able to find anything wrong
with Rufus; no parasites, no other symptoms of bad health. He's on Hill's
i/d for a sensitive stomach. Aside from a possible allergy does anyone have
an idea what would cause an otherwise healthy pup to have red, discharging
eyes?
Mike Gonzales
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser

2003-08-21 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/

I've seen that new hand-painted etching that was donated by BARC, and
it's absolutely magnificent!! It's not a big piece, but it's a real
beauty! If you haven't taken a look at some of the items that are being
offered, you're missing out on a very big treat!

Oh, and I happen to have a jpg file of the hand painted etching by
Geoffrey Lasko, so if you'd like to get a peak at it - just let me know!

Pat Long ( Luther)
Berwyn PA



Indoor Games and Missouri heat

2003-08-21 Thread P. Buickerood
Hi All,
Its been miserably hot here in Missouri for the last few days.
105 in the shade today! With these kinds of temps its downright
dangerous to go outside for any energetic play. During daylight
its very quick trips outside for business and right back in. A
frosty paws treat follows. But our guy is 5 months old and he
NEEDS some release. We're playing indoor fetch, find it, leave
it, hide and seek, chase the ice cube, and the standard
obedience games. We walk in the early morning and late evening
to exercise those muscles. If anyone has suggestions about
indoor games to engage the mind and spend some of the pent up
energy we would really appreciate it. 

=
Patricia Buickerood

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Re: Indoor Games and Missouri heat

2003-08-21 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 08/21/2003 9:34:21 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If anyone has suggestions about indoor games to engage the mind and spend 
some of the pent up energy we would really appreciate it.  

We find this a good time to teach tricks like shake, high five, wave, spin in 
place, back up on command, walk around my legs in a figure 8 (both standing 
and walking), roll over, etc.  With a clicker and tiny treats we do many 
sessions during the day, but each session is 5 minutes or less in duration.
Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDIA, 9 yrs. old, Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yrs. 
old, Cavalier)
Northern Illinois   [EMAIL PROTECTED], Corr. Sec. BMDCA