RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
Teresa, Here is a link: http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/#top And I'm hoping Joye is swamped with mail for the fundraiser! Of course, I'm hoping that the paintings of the puppies just get to stay here with me. If they do, I'll donate the cost of mailing them to Berner-Garde as well! It's just the selfless sort of person I am! VBG Pat Long ( Luther) Berewyn PA
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re:pine gum
Also Avon's Skin so Soft gets the gum out and leaves the dogs smelling much better!! Tracy North Saanch Content-type: multipart/digest; boundary=Boundary_(ID_juWuMpDb9/eSzREFjNtSAw) --Boundary_(ID_juWuMpDb9/eSzREFjNtSAw) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:33:46 -0700 From: Fran Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Sheepless in Seekonk To: Lisa Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Berner Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Moses, My Buddy Forgive my ignorance but what the heck is a Seekonk? Being a Canuck, I only understand stuff like Moosejaw and Spuzzum. Oh well. Anyway, may I extend my sincere congratulations on your 9'th birthday. You are an inspiration to all us Berners, and the way you've trained your person, Lisa, is nothing short of amazing. Milk it for all it's worth - that's what birthdays are for. You rule, Buddy! Felicitations! Sisco Jones West Vancouver, BC -- --Boundary_(ID_juWuMpDb9/eSzREFjNtSAw) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 02:38:56 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: My wonderful carting experience To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
Stop OnlinePetAuction.com
If you want to help stop this site, cut 'em off at the pass. Request that Knoxnetwork.net no longer provide DNS service to the site. http://www.knoxnetwork.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=anonemailsendto=CompanyEmail You provide DNS service for OnlinePetAuction.com. This auction site has been started allowing people to auction off pets to the highest bidder. This encouragement of puppymillers and backyard breeders will result in more suffering, unhealthy animals, and will contribute to the overpopulation problem. Please discontinue any service you provide to this domain. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re:lapto vaccine
Lisa, Leptospirosis is a disease that is not caused by a virus, unlike most of our problems. It is caused by a type of bacteria. There are many different strains, only a few of which actually cause disease. Unfortunately, all my vet books are in storage, so this is coming from memory, and may be sketchy on some details. There are 5 strains that are the main causes of disease. (I'm not even going to attempt to recall what the different strains are called. G) Most vaccines only have 2 of those strains, and the strains are NOT cross-protective - which means even if you have immunity to one, that immunity will not protect you against a different strain. The new Fort Dodge lepto vaccine is the only one I know of that protects against 4 of those 5 pathogenic strains - the 5th I believe is really only seen somewhere overseas, like Asia or something. Now the older lepto vaccines were definitely prone to causing vaccine reactions. That was our biggest cause of reactions. At the time we were using it, we had not seen or heard of a lepto case in the area in years, so I decided we would just drop that from our vaccine protocol. Lo and behold, our reaction incidence dropped. Since then, we have actually had about a half dozen cases seen in at the specialty practice about an hour away. Not only can leptospirosis be very serious in dogs (several of the dogs infected wound up with permanent liver or kidney damage, and at least 1 died), but it is also zoonotic, meaning that people can get it too. At least one technician involved with treating these cases became ill, and quite a few of the other staff had to be tested or treated. Lepto affects the kidneys and/or liver, primarily. It is passed through contaminated urine. Contaminated urine that is either swallowed (know that sounds gross, but I'm thinking of our dogs drinking from puddles) or absorbed into the body thorugh mucus membranes or an open cut or wound. Since a lot of us would wipe up where our dogs have peed without wearing gloves and not think twice about it, this is a potential source of infection. Since lepto is serious, can be passed to humans, and had been definitively diagnosed nearby, we decided to again begin vaccinating for it. Fortunately, we have a new vaccine (the one I mentioned before - made by Fort Dodge) that does cover the strains usually seen in the US. In addition, the Fort Dodge rep told me that they've done something different with the new vaccine so that they are seeing fewer reactions. Now, I don't know about all that, but I can say that I have not seen ANY reactions since we switched just under a year ago - and while I'm not doing a lot in my private practice, we do vaccinate a LOT of dogs at the shelter, none of whom have had a problem. One thing we do that probably helps that is that we do not give very young or very little puppies the lepto portion of the vaccine. Puppies must be at least 10 weeks before we will include lepto, and small breed dogs more like 14 weeks. We do not give it separately, but that does not seem to have been an issue for us. Anyway, I would advise checking to see what brand of vaccine your vet is using. If it is not the Fort Dodge lepto, I would be much less inclined to use it. (And I don't have any stock in Ft. Dodge, just like their vaccines. G) Then check around to see if lepto is being seen in the area. You can check with your local health department for human cases, and either the state vet or a nearby specialty vet practice to see if any animal cases have been seen. If they are not seeing it, and you are not traveling out of the area with your dog, I would probably not give it - but be aware that the dog is not protected against it. On the other hand, if there have been cases, or if you travel, then I would give it, provided it's the Fort Dodge version. Both of my dogs are now vaccinated against it. Plus, I have vaccinated at least a dozen berners with the Fort Dodge vaccine that includes lepto, including several puppies, none of which had any adverse reactions to it. I hope this helps you. If you have further questions, feel free to post me. Melissa On 20 Aug 03, at 0:01, MARK LISA DUVALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a question about the lepto vaccine...I know there was some discussion a while back but can't seen to find anything on it. I am not sure if I want to give this shot to my 13 wk. bmd girl. I have heard of bad reactions to this and also that there are new strains that the vaccine don't cover. On the other hand the lepto virus itself sounds so bad that I'm scared not to give it. I am curious to know if anyone has had any bad reactions to the vaccine. I live in Maryland and I'm not sure if it's prevalent in my area?? My vet suggests it but also said he has had a few dogs over the years who have had bad reactions to it.
RE: Stop OnlinePetAuction.com
Unfortunately, that ISP is run by Glenn Knox, who also runs the USABreeders site and is involved with APRI. He helped design the onlinepetauction site. Liz Caldwell Lawrence, KS -Original Message- From: _Adam Conn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stop OnlinePetAuction.com If you want to help stop this site, cut 'em off at the pass. Request that Knoxnetwork.net no longer provide DNS service to the site. http://www.knoxnetwork.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=anonemail; sendto=CompanyEmail You provide DNS service for OnlinePetAuction.com. This auction site has been started allowing people to auction off pets to the highest bidder. This encouragement of puppymillers and backyard breeders will result in more suffering, unhealthy animals, and will contribute to the overpopulation problem. Please discontinue any service you provide to this domain. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY Visit the website and send me your money!! http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ Joye Neff and Nicky! Pittsburgh, PA --On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
well at least i got two things right it ends in august and on a two digit that has a one in it. but there are ten more days left. so now i can send another check for the new items. i saw the etching and it is magnificent. so are the people who made it happen. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY Visit the website and send me your money!! http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ Joye Neff and Nicky! Pittsburgh, PA --On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
Hi Andrea, You got more than two things right!!!With the check you sent on August 5th and the other check you are sending, you get LOTS of points in my book Joye Neff and Nick (and Ben) Mt. Lebanon, Pittsburgh, PA --On Thursday, August 21, 2003 7:10 PM -0400 Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r well at least i got two things right it ends in august and on a two digit that has a one in it. but there are ten more days left. so now i can send another check for the new items. i saw the etching and it is magnificent. so are the people who made it happen. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr. William B. Neff Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser Nope...it doesn't end todayIn fact you have ten more days until the official ending of the Berner-Garde Fundraiser and then another week for your checks/cheques to reach me.SO.DON'T DILLY DALLY Visit the website and send me your money!! http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ Joye Neff and Nicky! Pittsburgh, PA --On Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:53 PM -0400 Andrea Brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:r i think it ends today. andrea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hugh Hayes Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Berner-Garde Fundraiser berner.org- homepage towards the bottom of the menu on the right. Original Message - From: Teresa Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: Berner-Garde Fundraiser SO what's up .. I haven't heard any thing on the Name the Berner fundraiser .. when does it end ??? Is Joye ok ..?? how about a link to the web page?? Teresa, Patriot and Romeo
Red eyes
BlankMy BMD pup of 7 months has been having red eyes with yellowish discharge for a couple weeks. My vet hasn't been able to find anything wrong with Rufus; no parasites, no other symptoms of bad health. He's on Hill's i/d for a sensitive stomach. Aside from a possible allergy does anyone have an idea what would cause an otherwise healthy pup to have red, discharging eyes? Mike Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ---REMAINDER OF MESSAGE TRUNCATED---* * This post contains a forbidden message format * * (such as an attached file, a v-card, HTML formatting) * *Mail Lists at Prairienet only accept PLAIN TEXT* * If your postings display this message your mail program * * is not set to send PLAIN TEXT ONLY and needs adjusting * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
RE: Berner-Garde Fundraiser
http://www.overthefence.com/helpberners/bg/ I've seen that new hand-painted etching that was donated by BARC, and it's absolutely magnificent!! It's not a big piece, but it's a real beauty! If you haven't taken a look at some of the items that are being offered, you're missing out on a very big treat! Oh, and I happen to have a jpg file of the hand painted etching by Geoffrey Lasko, so if you'd like to get a peak at it - just let me know! Pat Long ( Luther) Berwyn PA
Indoor Games and Missouri heat
Hi All, Its been miserably hot here in Missouri for the last few days. 105 in the shade today! With these kinds of temps its downright dangerous to go outside for any energetic play. During daylight its very quick trips outside for business and right back in. A frosty paws treat follows. But our guy is 5 months old and he NEEDS some release. We're playing indoor fetch, find it, leave it, hide and seek, chase the ice cube, and the standard obedience games. We walk in the early morning and late evening to exercise those muscles. If anyone has suggestions about indoor games to engage the mind and spend some of the pent up energy we would really appreciate it. = Patricia Buickerood __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Indoor Games and Missouri heat
In a message dated 08/21/2003 9:34:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone has suggestions about indoor games to engage the mind and spend some of the pent up energy we would really appreciate it. We find this a good time to teach tricks like shake, high five, wave, spin in place, back up on command, walk around my legs in a figure 8 (both standing and walking), roll over, etc. With a clicker and tiny treats we do many sessions during the day, but each session is 5 minutes or less in duration. Anne Copeland (Flash CGC, TDIA, 9 yrs. old, Berner; Gypsy CGC, TDI, 2 yrs. old, Cavalier) Northern Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED], Corr. Sec. BMDCA