RE: Carob
it should be, but it is so closely related to soy that i would not use it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure?
Re: Carob
Pat, I can only make assumption that Carob is OK for I have found Doggie cookies made with it Foster & Smith sell a Snack Pack which includes Carob Chip Wheat Cookies, they also sell Good Boy Choc Drops but description doesn't really state Carob just says Chocolate favor. Pat Tackett Texas -- I haven't seen this answer yet, but I'm not current on all the List traffic yet. Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure? Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: Carob
I haven't seen this answer yet, but I'm not current on all the List traffic yet. Carob has no chocolate in it, and also has no theobromine, so I suppose it would be safe for dogs. Does anyone know for sure? Pat Long (& Luther) Berwyn PA
Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
Corrected web address on chocolate toxicity amounts: http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/DOGS/chocolatetoxic.HTM Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com
Re: Carob/Chocolate Toxicity
" I had a Newf do a raid on my 3+ pounds of fudge I had bagged for gifts one Christmas - when we weren't home, obviously, and, though he was a very thirsty dog and did develop diarrhea, he was just fine. If there was any way chocolate should have killed a dog, he was it." Hi Chris, Actually if the fudge was made with Milk Chocolate it would not have been a fatal dose for a normal sized adult Newf. With Milk Chocolate the toxic level of chocolate is calculated at: 1 oz. per 1 lb. of body weight so A 2 lb. dog could die from 2 oz. of milk chocolate, whereas a 96 lb. dog could die from 6 lbs. of milk chocolate and a 160 lb. dog could die from eating 10 lbs. of milk chocolate. Semi-sweet chocolate toxicity is calculated at: 1 oz per 3 lbs. body weight. 3 x's more toxic than milk chocolate. A 3 lb. dog would die from eating 1 oz. A 30 lb. dog would die from 10 oz A 96 lb. dog would die from 32 oz. or 2 lbs. With Baker's Chocolate: Toxicity calculated at: 1 0z per 9 lbs. body weight. 3 x's more toxic than semi-sweet, and 9 x's more toxic than milk chocolate. So a 3 lb. dog who ate only 1/3 of an ounce could die. 2 oz. per 18 lbs. 3 oz. per 27 lbs. 4 oz. per 36 lbs. 5 oz. per 48 lbs. 6 0z. per 54 lbs. 7 oz. per 63 lbs. 8 0z. per 72 lbs. 9 oz. per 81 lbs. 10 oz. per 90 lbs. 11 oz. per 99 lbs. Website: http://www.talktothevet.com/ARTICLES/DOGS/chocolatetoxic.htm Here is an article about "Daisy" a 12 year old Golden who ate a 6 lb. box of chocolates and what she went through in order to survive: http://www.vetheart.com/choc.html IMO Chocolate can be deadly and should be kept away/out of reach of dogs. Giving dogs chocolate in small amounts will only make it more likely that they will seek it out. So, especially during the holidays, be careful, keep chocolate out of reach of your pets. Bernerly, Mary Jeff & Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners N. California, USA http://snobear.freeyellow.com
Re: Carob
- Original Message - From: "Chris &/or Dave River" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > They ALL loved > chocolate. They ALL lived normal, healthy lives. I'm glad that you have never had any problems, but my way of thinking is that, if they don't need it, and if there is any question whatsoever about it's affects, why give it to them? There are lots of safe treats that my dogs love, so there is no need to take a chance giving them chocolate. Besides, if I did want to give my dogs chocolate, then I would have to start keeping it in the house, and I would probably eat most of it myself, and I REALLY don't need it! ;-) ...Mike
RE: Carob
Okay, here's a subject that seems to get a lot of people all 'het up' but I'm going to put my two-cents in. I have had dogs all my life, a wide variety of breeds including newfs and, now, a Berner. They ALL loved chocolate. They ALL lived normal, healthy lives. I had a Newf do a raid on my 3+ pounds of fudge I had bagged for gifts one Christmas - when we weren't home, obviously, and, though he was a very thirsty dog and did develop diarrhea, he was just fine. If there was any way chocolate should have killed a dog, he was it. Perhaps there are some dogs, somewhere, that are allergic to it and shouldn't have it, but none I've ever had. Our dogs (and one cat, by the way) all beg for Hershey Kisses and I've never seen any negative effects at all. I think carob is a sorry excuse for chocolate, so don't use it and have no idea of how they like it or how it might effect them. Chris River -Original Message- From: Mike Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:01 PM To: Dennis Simpson Cc: Berner-L Subject: Re: Carob I'm surprised that you don't seem to be getting any responses to this yet, as I expected the experts to jump in with a quick response. I can only assume people are responding through e-mail, but just in case, I thought I would post the answer to your question. I'm not an expert, but I can tell you that, as bad as chocolate may be for your kids, it is far worse for your dog. Chocolate contains a chemical called theobromine. This stuff is toxic for dogs, and potentially lethal in sufficient quantity. You can read more information about it at http://www.supervet.co.uk/dog/chocolate.html or http://www.vetheart.com/choc.html or http://www.vetref.net/articles/_articles/chocolate.html. Funny thing is, I actually have a book on dog breeds which suggests chocolate as a good treat for dogs. Luckily, I knew before reading this book that chocolate was very bad so I never gave chocolate to my dogs. Now, I ignore all the advice in that book, and just look at the pictures of all the different breeds of dogs. ...Mike - Original Message - From: "Dennis Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Berner L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: Carob > Hi all > Well with the holiday here I was wondering as I do know that chocolate > is very bad for my kids but what about carob? >
Re: Carob
I'm surprised that you don't seem to be getting any responses to this yet, as I expected the experts to jump in with a quick response. I can only assume people are responding through e-mail, but just in case, I thought I would post the answer to your question. I'm not an expert, but I can tell you that, as bad as chocolate may be for your kids, it is far worse for your dog. Chocolate contains a chemical called theobromine. This stuff is toxic for dogs, and potentially lethal in sufficient quantity. You can read more information about it at http://www.supervet.co.uk/dog/chocolate.html or http://www.vetheart.com/choc.html or http://www.vetref.net/articles/_articles/chocolate.html. Funny thing is, I actually have a book on dog breeds which suggests chocolate as a good treat for dogs. Luckily, I knew before reading this book that chocolate was very bad so I never gave chocolate to my dogs. Now, I ignore all the advice in that book, and just look at the pictures of all the different breeds of dogs. ...Mike - Original Message - From: "Dennis Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Berner L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: Carob > Hi all > Well with the holiday here I was wondering as I do know that chocolate > is very bad for my kids but what about carob? >
Carob
Hi all Well with the holiday here I was wondering as I do know that chocolate is very bad for my kids but what about carob?
