Re: dog food / dog treats

2003-03-19 Thread Michaela Simmons
Food:
My dogs get either a homemade BARF diet or  Burn's Real food for pets
http://www.burns-pet-nutrition.com/index.htm when we are travelling or I'm
too busy to make the homemade version. Burn's is the only dried food that
Harvey, my fickle boy eats, with gusto. The ingredients are top-notch, it
doesn't contain any genetically modified ingredients and doesn't use battery
chickens ( very important for me since I insist on ethical farming methods).
And the dogs love it. It's available in the UK and the US, and I could
highly recommend it. My only complaint is that it's a little low in protein
( 18.5 %) which would be perfect for a less active or older dog, but I
simply add some tinned fish or cooked chicken for my boys.

Treats/Chews
Dried lambs liver ( you can easily dry your own in the oven, too!), James
Wellbeloved's Crackerjacks ( yummy, crunchy and they brake into small
pieces), raw marrow bones ( entire knuckle ones) and something I think you
call macho sticks in the US. Here they go under the fetching name bulls
pizzles since they are dried bulls penises ( you guys in the States are a
bashful bunch!). They are completely natural, will keep the dogs chewing
happily for a long time and are the only chew I have found which doesn't get
soggy ( when darling doggy drags it out in the garden and leaves it there in
the rain for a while), the dog can't bite of chunks as with rawhide (
thereby minimising choking) and they are HUGE. I kid you not, I buy mine 5'
long and either chop them in halve or just give them entire. The only
problem is, you'll never walk past another bull without scrutinising his
privates and smirking.

Oh , and cubes of cheese! Cheese is medicine for a Berner.

Michaela, Harvey  Rupert
Devon/UK

PS I have no affiliation with Burn's - I just like their food.




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-23 Thread _Adam Conn
In Digest 4138, nbmws6 wrote (and didn't sign):

It is also stated on that site that euthanized pets
from the shelters are also being used for pet food,
thus getting the drug into the food, anyone see the
old movie Soilent Green? Disgusting.

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If you read more carefully, euthanized dogs and cats
were specifically NOT found in the food. Your
misreading of the facts is how unfounded rumors get
started. Here is the salient paragraph:

Because pentobarbital is used to euthanize dogs and
cats at animal shelters, finding pentobarbital in
rendered feed ingredients could suggest that the pets
were rendered and used in pet food. CVM scientists, as
part of their investigation, developed a test to
detect dog and cat DNA in the protein of the dog food.
 All samples from the most recent dog food survey
(2000) that tested positive for pentobarbital, as well
as a subset of samples that tested negative, were
examined for the presence of remains derived from dogs
or cats.  The results demonstrated a complete absence
of material that would have been derived from
euthanized dogs or cats

Adam Conn

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Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Kelly
My question would be is this added to the food or being added because they
are using euthanized pets in their food and it's getting into the food
through these pets.


No it is from euthanized cattle and horses that have been processed for the
food. It is not being added by hand.

Kelly Weir
Michigan
http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Kelly
Here is the link to the Fox 2 News web site www.wjbk.com .

Kelly Weir 
Michigan
http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread nbmws6
I have this link that was posted a few weeks ago.
http://www.doglogic.com/petsinfood.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Dog Food


 Here is the link to the Fox 2 News web site www.wjbk.com .
 
 Kelly Weir 
 Michigan
 http://home.twmi.rr.com/skylinebmd/index.html/hopeindex.htm
 




Re: Dog Food

2002-11-22 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
One must read all of the reports as this story of cats and dogs in dog food
has been around for a long time.

The following is from the FDA report on testing of Pet Foods.

Despite suspicions that pentobarbital may come from euthanized dogs and
cats from animal shelters, the FDA says DNA tests on the products show no
sign of dogs or cats.

The same report list three of the foods that tested for Phenobarbital.

So one had to read all of the reports at the Government FDA site to get the
full story. Not just what NEWS stations want to report.

To use the term feed Kibbles is a very broad statement as their are many
very good kibbles on the market
that pose no threat of any kind to our Dogs or Cats.
I do not think the Whole Dog Journal would list the top 10 Dog Foods in the
Journal if they felt for one moment that they were dangerous to our Pets.

Ray Burgett


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