Re: Rally Obedience 2004 discussion
Marjie, Sorry to step on toes but Susan is involved with the 2004 now, she's the BMDCA co-laison to the BMD2004 list as of about a month ago. I believe she did say Rally was a great success at 2003 -- BTW I was not at 2003 so sure don't know what all happened there especially concerning 'sod' G The people I mentioned have all said there isn't time for Rally Obedience even though Sharon Montville, myself and few others said they should try and offer it. If other BMD performance folks want it offered all I'm saying is they need to contact the folks and stress their wants, I'm not saying your going to be able to change their minds though but it's always worth a try. just my .02 Pat T. Texas This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Want Rally at BMDCA specialties in the future? Lobby for it and, as an added carrot, volunteer to help make it a reality. This is half right. Let me try: Want Rally at BMDCA specialties in the future? Volunteer to help make it a reality. Specialties are run by 100% volunteer effort. Any non-core specialty event will only happen if volunteers step forward to run it. And you are not allowed to volunteer other people to do the work. Remember that there are 3 basic requirements for any event such as Rally: 1 - You need a location. For rally this means a ring. 2 - You need a time slot to hold the event. 3 - You need volunteers to make the event happen. The most optional event at specialties is tracking. Tracking can run into problems with any of the 3 requirements, but the usual problem is #1 (location). I don't know where the 2004 committee stands on Rally. A problem of time slot or location may be difficult to solve. If the only problem is volunteers, lobbying isn't going to help -- people interested in Rally have to step forward and volunteer. --Tom Jaskiewicz From New Hampshire, where the bitches are ( Gita Kepler)strong, the dogs are good looking, and all [EMAIL PROTECTED]the puppies are above average.
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
From: Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hopefully, Rally will be a titling venue by the time of the 2004 Specialty. It was recommended by the AKC Obedience Advisory Committee. The best guesses so far is April of 2004 when it will officially happen. The current thinking is that it will be a whole separate venue from Obedience. Of course, all of this might change. It was the biggest obedience event for the 2003 Specialty and was financially quite successful. Hi Marjie, Were you not aware that there are too many of those annoying performance events at the National Specialty? Shame on those members who want to show their versatile dogs, or those members who want to compete and have fun with their dogs who are not as gifted in the conformation department - all you do, is create work and headaches for the specialty committee. Get a life, and make sure it is in the conformation ring. Tongue in cheek, Sharon Montville - Firstrax - Colorado P.S. I have heard it suggested that there should be 2 national specialties - one for conformation, and one for performance. What a lovely plan for encouraging the development of separate performance and conformation lines within our breed. NOT. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Susan (co chair of 2003 specialty) was very supportive of Rally in Long Beach. She helped immensely with set up and anything else I asked, (remember the sod incident ?) Susan even managed to show her dog in obedience, all the while running around like a crazy woman to make sure everything was perfect for the attendees. How she kept sane, I'll never know! As I understand, she is not a member of the 2004 committee and so would not have had any input into the 2004 agenda. Including her name in this discussion was inappropriate. Marjie Pat Tackett wrote: Marjie, Those were my arguments with the 2004 Show committee, I was blasted out of the water though for even quizzing about it being offered. Maybe others can sway Cindy Still, Helen Thornton, Denise Dean and Susan Henderson minds about being open to offer Rally Obedience -- they all say there is not enough time to offer it :-( Pat T. Texas
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Is it really fair to second guess every decision a Specialty comittee makes? I can understand the concerns about the Lancaster County issue -- I'm not arguing the merits of the boycott, I'm much more concerned about the potential of people being unwilling to attend because of it. But now that a NEW performance event isn't being offered, people are vocally up in arms again and calling for pressure to be put onto the *volunteer* comittee? Specialties are major projects for the comittees and sometimes hard choices have to be made. Occasionally, new stuff will be tried -- some will be popular, some won't. With Rally so new and so few people having had an opportunity to see or participate in it, it may not naturally have been included in the original schedule plan (which would have been in the works _well_ before this year's Specialty). Added to that the time, space and WORKER constraints endemic to specialties, it seems somewhat unfair to make such an issue of this at this time. Want Rally at BMDCA specialties in the future? Lobby for it and, as an added carrot, volunteer to help make it a reality. Make comittees lives miserable by telling them what they're doing wrong on a regular basis and you'll have to content yourselves with whatever is left on the local level since no one in their right minds will wish to subject themselves to the intense scrutiny, abuse and ridicule. If something had to 'give' to allow time/space/volunteers for Rally, what would you give up? Maybe Veterans Obedience? Drafting? Futurity? Preferred Agility? Puppy Sweeps? Specialties are notorious timehogs and there will be plenty of the inevitable laments about the Specialty requiring too much time for it to be attended in its entirety. Sometimes something old has to move to allow the new. But traditions are hard to break and even the 'old stuff' has its supporters. Push (politely) for change but please don't allow one omission from ruining the Specialty for everyone. By this time, even adding Rally could be difficult at best even if the comittee decided to do so. It's no as easy as simply deciding to make it so. All my hopes, Vicky and the Horde Seleya
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Penny, While I argued for Rally Obedience I've been told that no it is not going to be offered :-( Pat T. Texas This letter has been delivered unencrypted. We'd like to remind you that the full protection of e-mail correspondence is provided by S-mail encryption mechanisms if only both, Sender and Recipient use S-mail. Register at S-mail.com: http://www.s-mail.com
Re: Rally Obedience 2004
Hopefully, Rally will be a titling venue by the time of the 2004 Specialty. It was recommended by the AKC Obedience Advisory Committee. The best guesses so far is April of 2004 when it will officially happen. The current thinking is that it will be a whole separate venue from Obedience. Of course, all of this might change. It was the biggest obedience event for the 2003 Specialty and was financially quite successful. Marjie (AKC Obedience Judge for non-regular classes. Huge Rally fan!)
Re: Rally
You can even be penalized (or in extreme cases excused) for NOT praising your dog enough! -nearly the opposite of current AKC- obedience!;-) where you can't talk to your dog except in-between exercises... this is a more natural way of working with your dog- filled with encouragement; and handler antics too! It is fast paced' and free flowing from one exercise to the next. The judge says begin; and exercise finished (to start and stop the clock...) You must do the exercises in order- but it is usually laid out pretty clearly -if you understand the signs!- meaning after a spiral you should be facing a particular direction in which case you will see the next sign... It's a lot of fun- the way obedience should be ~Rebecca (owned by Bernese since 1989) Canine-Corner from hair to heel Grooming Training Red Hook, NY www.canine-cornerbmd.com and/or Mid-Hudson Kennel Association, Ltd. Referral Chair/Instructor www.wiltwyck.com/mhka A DOG IS THE ONLY RELATIVE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE SO CHOOSE WISELY! - Original Message - From: Marjie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:21 AM Subject: Re: Rally Susan Berlin wrote: Okay, I give up: what's a Rally? snip Rally obedience...Rally-O... praise is considered a requirement and a happy, brisk, enthusiastic performance will get you a high score (and more fun.) snip --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System]
Re: Rally
Susan Berlin wrote: Okay, I give up: what's a Rally? Rally is a relatively new sport we can participate in with our dogs. Although its called Rally Obedience, it should be called 'Just Fun.' The main feature of Rally, sometimes called Rally-O, is that the handler may talk, encourage, clap or whatever throughout the performance You can't touch the dog or use food or toys, but praise is considered a requirement and a happy, brisk, enthusiastic performance will get you a high score (and more fun.) The Rally course consists of a series of numbered signs arranged in a series with space between them. The team performs the behavior printed on the sign and then goes to the next sign. Rally excersizes are based on all the 'doodling' you do in training. Things like spirals, weaving through cones, left about turns, 360 turns, and all the familiar obedience behaviors are used. The course is laid out by the judge and is different for each trial. Handlers are given a course layout and are allowed to walk the course and plan their performance before the trial starts. The judge does not give any commands other than to start. Performances are timed, but the time is oly used for breaking ties. Marjie
