NOT AGAIN - Vacuum Cleaners (Hoover or similar experts only)
Hi all, I am trying this post on my old basement computer as it only has AOL VERSION 5.0, so it should come in ledgable right??? Delema: Husband said, "Here's the checkbook, go get a new vacuum today", as the one we had, which I thought worked fine, he says is broken. This all happened a few days ago when I asked him to help me change the bag. Changing a bag??? Anyways, garbage man came yesterday and took our Marshall Industrial Vac away and the husband wants me to get a Hoover ___? Windtunnel? w/out bags. He wants to be able to dispense the hair, dirt himself, which really means me. I know we've had this discussion several timeson the L, but I did not pay enough attention to detail as I was not in the market for a vac. Not to tie up the list on this but could a few of you e-mail me private if you've got time this early afternoon because today is the day and I need one strong enough to pick up not only Berner hair but kids messes, cats fur, gerbils shavings (he is real messy) and bird feathers and seeds. I need the most powerful Hoover for the least price. (ha) He does not want me spending $800 on an industrial model or the price of a Berner for a Rainbow, which was our vacuum before the Marshall. He said go up to SEARS. Any suggestions would be GREATLY APPRECIATED. Time is of the essance as husband is now LOOKING for checkbook. Best regards, Cindy Hoffman and Cutter the Roach Batavia, IL
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My friend Pat, Marcy's "Agent" brought her to the shoot- I had to work :-( Honestly, I can't say how it 'worked.' but Marcy was kind enough to shed for them for the shoot, Pat said. and it cleaned it up. They cost about $200. She said it was quiet- Marcy had to lie down while the it vacuumed around her. I can't imagine something the size of a dinner plate to be large enough to hold all the dog and cat hair in this house... plus all the dirt + the kids (3) & friends track in and out... (I have a $125 Sears Kenmore Whispertone canister (which is not so quiet)- but did an ok job when it was new; 5 years ago- but there's a bend in the hose attachment (where it connects to a solid metal tube where you turn the rotor on and off) and which you can't access- and that gets clogged- and is most difficult to clear- and I doubt it is cleared completely at this point... I wouldn't buy this machine again; and would look for a machine that does not have this sort of bend- or is at least accessible... I like the canister "hoses" because you can also get the dog hair that gets stuck in the cobwebs in the ceilings and rafters. An upright would just be a pain for me. I change the bag about every 2-3 weeks and vacuum on average 4-5 times per week...) Bags are not cheap. (amazing I buy something I'm only going to throw away!) Me, I reduce/reuse/recycle in other areas of my life but I have to have a bag- as un-environmentally sound as it may be- I don't want to see or know how much dirt I've cleaned up- 'just make it go away!' the idea of cleaning a vacuum is not for me! I have a "shop vac" for my grooming shop and I'm considering getting a small one for $45 for the house when I have to replace the Kenmore- which will probably be w/in the year. They have more 'horse power and larger capacities plus can handle water- than a conventional house vacuum. I have hard wood, tile, and slate floors... with the exception of 2 rooms with area rugs... so I don't know how they handle wall to wall... cheers. ~Rebecca (owned by Bernese since 1989) Canine-Corner "from hair to heel" Grooming & Training Red Hook, NY ----- Original Message - From: "Andrea Brin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: RE: Vacuum, cleaners > did they give you one to try. let us know if it handles dog hair. > --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System]
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The "obvious" choice will then have to be the "Roomba" robotic vacuum- I guess you turn it on in the morning before work, and come home to a vacuumed house... I only 'recommend' such a machine because Marcy (Bernese, of course) just did an ad for QVC for this machine! So you will have to look for it on QVC.com and Roomba literature... Oh, is that a brag?! ~Rebecca (owned by Bernese since 1989) Canine-Corner "from hair to heel" Grooming & Training Red Hook, NY and/or Mid-Hudson Kennel Association, Ltd. Referral Chair/Instructor "A DOG IS THE ONLY RELATIVE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE SO CHOOSE WISELY!" - Original Message - From: "Mark Zilberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:51 AM Subject: Vacuum, cleaners > I'd like to know the favorite vacuum cleaners of my fellow Berner buddies. > I'm looking for something that isn't a strain to use. We use a manual push > sweeper that's effective but an increasing physical strain. > Thanks! > Mark > -- > __ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by Webjogger's AntiVirus Protection System]
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Just a note on a vacuum to avoid...the new Hoover Windtunnel V2 bagless, beltless model ($250 + pricetag) I thought this was a great vacuum when I first got it, but soon I started to smell burning hair/rubber. I cleaned Berner hair out of the bristles frequently, but still the smell persisted whenever I used the vacuum. After 3 months of use, the beater bars totally quit turning. The repairman took it all apart, discovered that fur had worked itself into and around the gears (remember, no belt), the friction had created enough heat to melt the plastic housing, and the gears had been completely ruined. So, since it was still under warranty, the entire gear unit was replaced, but unfortunately this is a design flaw that will require us to take apart and clean out the mechanism on a very regular basis, a real pain. So, while this may be a great vacuum for normal households (or even ones with short-haired dogs), it's one to avoid in Bernese homes. Anne Cranford, NJ with Titan and Maddie (who at 9 months hasn't even really started to shed yet!!!)
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I asked the same question about 18 months ago. We had moved from the Netherlands to Canada and had to leave most of our electrical equipment behind (different voltage & frequency). We were renting a fully carpeted house (beige carpet!!) and eventually settled on a Hoover windtunnel mach 4.7 upright cleaner. It seemed to cope pretty well at first but went through belts like nobody's business. Sniff, sniff, smells like burning rubber, ah yes, the hair has just tangled round the roller and is about to ruin yet another belt. It comes with a little rotary hand power brush for doing things like stairs. Great! Well, if it didn't tangle up with hair I'm sure it would work quite well. Now we've moved into our own house and installed pergo on the ground floor. The hoover only has to cope with the upstairs rooms and it's still burning rubber. How I wish I could find a Philips Vision Canister vac here in Canada. Wendy Boris Beard Ottawa, Canada http://members.rogers.com/bernerboris/bernerbooks.html
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Mark WE are using the largest upright, bag type Hoover they make and it is great. It has never plugged up but I do clean the brush about every 4th time we use it. Ray & Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Shadow & Max www.goodbernerfood.com http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/ Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep
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Mark, You can also read all about the List recommendations on vacuums at www.berner.org, just click on "compilations" to see that back digest information! Pat Long, a babysat Gabby, (& Luther) Berwyn PA
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Our Dyson is fabulous at coping with mountains of Berner hair. It also
ensures a hasty exit on the part of Santa, as he believes it has come to
kill us all and there's no way he's staying around on the off-chance we
might survive (again). Strangely enough, the Dyson at our old dog training
club class didn't bother him a bit.
Molly & Santa
Cornwall/UK
("Oh no! Not the Dyson demon again! I'm out of here")
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Subject: Vacuum, cleaners
I'd like to know the favorite vacuum cleaners of my fellow Berner buddies.
I'm looking for something that isn't a strain to use. We use a manual push
sweeper that's effective but an increasing physical strain.
Thanks!
Mark
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Vacuum, cleaners
I'd like to know the favorite vacuum cleaners of my fellow Berner buddies. I'm looking for something that isn't a strain to use. We use a manual push sweeper that's effective but an increasing physical strain. Thanks! Mark -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
RE: Shedding and vacuum cleaners
We have a Berner & a black Lab in a house with an off-white kitchen floor and cream-colored Berber carpet (and hardwood). I have a Rainbow Vacuum which is absolutely the best. It's a canister style but filters the dirt, dust, mold spores and hair through a water reservoir with an antibacterial solution added. Does wonders with the dog hair and really cleans the dust, dander & germs out of the air. It's really powerful but so easy to maneuver. (Comes with tons of tools, powered carpet attachment, hardwood & tile attachment, small brush, edge tool, upholstery & small power head for the stairs) When you finish vacuuming the house smells wonderful. It's a big investment, but for someone with allergies and lots of dog hair, it's well worth it. Our allergy problems have diminished significantly since I got this vacuum cleaner in Feb of '99. Here's the link to their site if anyone's interested: http://www.rainbowsystem.com/ You have to buy through a local dealer -- not sold in stores -- but they are the best and last 20 - 30 years. Jennifer (Rex and Mabel) Burgess -- enjoying the clean floor and air in Memphis -Original Message- From: Ray & Pat Burgett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shedding and vacuum cleaners We have the 28 AMP Hoover Wind Tunnel Bag type. It does a super job and have not had any problem. We do clean the brush about every third time. What we really like is the Power Head attachment for the furniture. With 3 adult females and a 11 week old male pup it does get a chance to pick up lots of hair. Seems like one of the gals is always blowing coat. Ray & Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Rider & Max www.goodbernerfood.com http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/ Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep
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We have the 28 AMP Hoover Wind Tunnel Bag type. It does a super job and have not had any problem. We do clean the brush about every third time. What we really like is the Power Head attachment for the furniture. With 3 adult females and a 11 week old male pup it does get a chance to pick up lots of hair. Seems like one of the gals is always blowing coat. Ray & Pat Burgett Eaglecap Bernese Talee,Lexi,,Bell, Rider & Max www.goodbernerfood.com http://users.eoni.com/~eaglecap/ Draminski Ovulation Detector Rep
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I've had my Miele at the shop so many times for the burning smell. I always clean it up before I bring it in out of shear embarrassment for the amount of hair in the beater bar and when the owner (Klaus,--we're on a first name basis now) runs it for 20 minutes he smells nothing. I finally figured out that it was dog, cat, and my hair in the beater bar. The last time I went into the shop Klaus' jaw dropped and he said "What? No vacuum cleaner?!" I told him I just needed bags. :-) Susan Kowitz, Mercedes, and Bentley Sequim, WA >>>As for the hair burning , I take the beater attachment apart periodically and clean out the hair caught in every crevice. The burning smell abates for a short time Try cleaning the beaters as best you can , scissors help !Laurie Montoya - Hoover WindTunnel .but every time I use it >the smell of burning hair is overpowering!!! Really...the "beater bars" do >such a good job there is always loads of fur wrapped around them. <<<
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I have the same problem , Anne :-). Smells terrible , yuck ! I put potpourri in the bags now , LOL ! As for the hair burning , I take the beater attachment apart periodically and clean out the hair caught in every crevice. The burning smell abates for a short time. If the hair is too bad , I take a broom to it first ! With berner , golden x, two light cats (one Himilayan), and two dark cats , my house is HAIRY ! I give up. Try cleaning the beaters as best you can , scissors help !Laurie Montoya w/Hannah the berner beastie and Shelby the golden wonder mutt PA. >This discussion regarding shedding makes me wonder...has anyone ever had a >vacuum cleaner spontaneously combust? I have a great new Hoover WindTunnel >that is powerful and seems to pick up tons of fur...but every time I use it >the smell of burning hair is overpowering!!! Really...the "beater bars" do >such a good job there is always loads of fur wrapped around them. They get >going so fast and the friction is so great, I actually worry sometimes the >hair might catch fire! >Hope that's in the category of needless, neurotic worrying! >Anne >with Maddie and Titan >Cranford, NJ >
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Dear Anne, No. It isn't. So very very sorry, Patricia (Yeoman, Reba, & Gus) and some charred remains of what was once a vacuum cleaner. Calgary Alberta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope that's in the category of needless, neurotic worrying!
Shedding and vacuum cleaners
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