Re: bleeding gums

2002-11-14 Thread jean cheesman
Hi Beverly,

> Yesterday I
> noticed that Han's gums around his teeth were unusually red and several of
> his teeth had blood around the base.  His mouth is definitely sore, he
> hasn't chewed up a remote control in a week.  He had a bout of ulcers in
> his mouth about a month ago could both incidents be related?

Ooops, you said had recently chewed up remote control!  Did he chew
something up the month ago before the ulcers?

Well worth a check here with the vet as those bits can be sharp and plastics
and stuff can have funny effect if a bit gets stuck in the gum or between
the teeth!

Hmmm! Large meaty marrow bones prescribed from here! After vet check!

So saying, my Simmy progressed from the remote to my leather purse and
credit cards despite loads of RMB's and he'd never done anything like this
before. Thankfully, this was only a short time where I swear he was cutting
wisdom teeth? Previously as pup had been so good, this came out of the blue,
so unexpected, was spate lasted around three weeks, then back to the bones.

Watched him very carefully after the remote episode, bits everywhere and
just prayed none finished up inside him! Much later, he was fine, but, get
vet to check Hans's gums carefully! Just in case!

Much Love,

Jean, Sunny, Simmy, Barney and the Gang
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Re: bleeding gums

2002-11-14 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 11/14/2002 2:01:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Does anyone have any experience with bleeding gums in Berners?  Yesterday I
>  noticed that Han's gums around his teeth were unusually red and several of
>  his teeth had blood around the base.  His mouth is definitely sore, he
>  hasn't chewed up a remote control in a week.  He had a bout of ulcers in
>  his mouth about a month ago could both incidents be related?   If anyone
>  has any suggestions I would appreciate it.

Hi Bev,

The obvious concern in red, bleeding, gums is gingiveitis so assuming you've 
already checked and Hans has sparkling clean teeth...

There are several things that can cause bleeding.

The first that comes to my mind when both oral ulcers and bleeding gums are 
presented is auto-immune disease.  You might want to consider a workup by 
your vet, possibly including an LE prep and ANA tests if Hans hasn't been on 
any antibiotics or steroids.

Alternatively, the bleeding gums can be caused by a clotting disorder, the 
most common one in BMDs being vWD Type 1.  Your vet can do a mucosal bleeding 
time test to assess clotting time and/or you can do the VetGen DNA test 
specific for Typoe 1 vWD and/or you can do a vWf assay (preferably through 
Cornell).  In any event, your vet should probably check Hans for bleeding in 
other mucosal areas.

Another possibility is if Hans got into any rat or mouse poisin like 
warfarin.  Many products now have a time delay built into them that can cause 
affects a month after ingestion.

I'm sure there are other possibilities, these are the ones friends have 
experienced to cause gum bleeding and oral ulcers in bernese.

-Sherri Venditti




bleeding gums

2002-11-13 Thread Beverly Arnold

Does anyone have any experience with bleeding gums in Berners?  Yesterday I
noticed that Han's gums around his teeth were unusually red and several of
his teeth had blood around the base.  His mouth is definitely sore, he
hasn't chewed up a remote control in a week.  He had a bout of ulcers in
his mouth about a month ago could both incidents be related?   If anyone
has any suggestions I would appreciate it.  He is not taking any
medications at the moment so that couldn't be the problem.

Thanks in advance,

--- Beverly Arnold