Re: [Bes-admins] New users activate immediatly

2009-04-24 Thread Chris Burwell
I should note that new users activate immediately, not immediatly.

- Chris

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Chris Burwell cburw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the alerts on our BES (4.1.6.10) to send me an email whenever a user
 is added, deleted, or activated. This morning I am preparing to migrate a
 user from a Blackjack to a Blackberry.

 I added the person to the BES and a minute later received another
 notification stating that the user had been activated! After checking the
 server, the status for this user is Running, there is a PIN, and the last
 contact date is some time in 2007. This same situation has happened on a few
 users that I have migrated. It seems that if I remove the user, then add
 them again the same scenario will not occur again.

 The company I work for had Nextel Blackberries several years back, but I
 wouldn't think that after 2-3 years that information would still be present
 on the blackberry network (let alone automatically activate a device).

 Any thoughts?

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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via his POP Account

2009-04-24 Thread Rich Fleming
I'm with Joseph on this... unless I'm also missing something.


From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com 
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Eggan, Mark
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 5:09 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.
Subject: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via his POP 
Account

Why can't Friday's be easy...?  This is a project that has been on the 
backburner for a bit now...

So we have an elected official on our BES that wants to have all Corporate 
(County) email sent to his Exchange account then forwarded to his POP3 account 
(electedoffic...@somepop3domain.com.  Reason is he doesn't want John Q. Citizen 
thinking that the County Official is replying to personal emails on a BB that 
is paid for with tax dollars.  Now to toss yet another wrench into this, he has 
an Administrative Professional (secretary) that is his Outlook delegate.  So 
she will need to be able to monitor meeting requests, etc.

We are on BES 4.1.6  Exchange 2007 (yay for that upgrade..).

This is what we are thinking of doing to facilitate this request, any ideas are 
absolutely welcome!


 *   Creating a new policy on BES that will send POP3 and Corporate (County) 
email to his BB.  I thought that we could color code all emails coming from his 
POP3 so its immediately known that this is 'personal' email.  I recall seeing a 
policy that allows for color coding on different emails, so ill check that out. 
 Although that might have been device specific, sorry...thinking aloud.
 *   Any time the user replies to a Corporate email, it will actually get sent 
out displaying his POP3 account email address.

So would a BES policy be best practice, or maybe this:

 *   Create a contact for his POP3 in AD, have all corporate email forward to 
this contact.
 *   Create a rule in Outlook that allows the delegate access to meetings and 
such, sending out all meeting stuff out as the corporate email in lieu of his 
POP3 contact.

Hmm, so yeah...any comments are most appreciated!  Thanks again


Mark Eggan | ITS Help Desk | 259 -8142
Information Systems Specialist II
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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out viahisPOPAccount

2009-04-24 Thread Tren Blackburn
Out *to* his pop or just showing the smtp from address as his pop? If the later 
and you're on exchange this is easily done with recipient policies and changing 
his default smtp address as the pop address.

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To: bes-admins@dataoutages.com bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Sent: Fri Apr 24 15:55:32 2009
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out 
viahisPOPAccount

That's the quandary. He wants everything outgoing to his pop. Totally strange. 

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Sent: Fri Apr 24 14:26:48 2009
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via 
hisPOPAccount

If I read it right its a tax dollars bb (I read govt owned)that they
want pop on and work exch forwarded to that pop acct.

Seems it would be the opposite - that they want a way to get personal
pop on a restricted gov'. Exch enterprise restricted bb.but that
didn't look like the q to me.

Mark??

J

On 4/24/09, wrbdec...@gmail.com wrbdec...@gmail.com wrote:
 As long as you are able to have both on the device
 Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph C Freer jfr...@gmail.com

 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:20:57
 To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss
 issues,etc.bes-admins@dataoutages.com
 Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via his
   POP Account


 I may be misunderstanding this since it has been a hellish Friday as well -

 Work email is exchange
 Personal email is pop

 Why can't he have both on his device? Why do you need a forward?

 Replies to personal would go out via that address and replies to
 exchange would go out over that. New messages he/she would just elect
 what account to use.

 I'm doing that now on my govt bb :)

 J

 On 4/24/09, Eggan, Mark meg...@co.napa.ca.us wrote:
 Why can't Friday's be easy...?  This is a project that has been on the
 backburner for a bit now...



 So we have an elected official on our BES that wants to have all
 Corporate (County) email sent to his Exchange account then forwarded to
 his POP3 account (electedoffic...@somepop3domain.com.  Reason is he
 doesn't want John Q. Citizen thinking that the County Official is
 replying to personal emails on a BB that is paid for with tax dollars.
 Now to toss yet another wrench into this, he has an Administrative
 Professional (secretary) that is his Outlook delegate.  So she will need
 to be able to monitor meeting requests, etc.



 We are on BES 4.1.6  Exchange 2007 (yay for that upgrade..).



 This is what we are thinking of doing to facilitate this request, any
 ideas are absolutely welcome!



 *Creating a new policy on BES that will send POP3 and Corporate
 (County) email to his BB.  I thought that we could color code all emails
 coming from his POP3 so its immediately known that this is 'personal'
 email.  I recall seeing a policy that allows for color coding on
 different emails, so ill check that out.  Although that might have been
 device specific, sorry...thinking aloud.
 *Any time the user replies to a Corporate email, it will actually
 get sent out displaying his POP3 account email address.



 So would a BES policy be best practice, or maybe this:

 *Create a contact for his POP3 in AD, have all corporate email
 forward to this contact.
 *Create a rule in Outlook that allows the delegate access to
 meetings and such, sending out all meeting stuff out as the corporate
 email in lieu of his POP3 contact.



 Hmm, so yeah...any comments are most appreciated!  Thanks again





 Mark Eggan | ITS Help Desk | 259 -8142

 Information Systems Specialist II

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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent outviahisPOPAccount

2009-04-24 Thread wrbdecker
If its the former set a rule to auto forward all email to his pop account
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:58:20 
To: bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out
viahisPOPAccount


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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via hisPOP Account

2009-04-24 Thread don . andrews_safeway
Agree.  Doesn't sound good to have govt email auto-forwarded to a POP.  
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Joseph C Freer jfr...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:20:57 
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent out via his
POP Account


I may be misunderstanding this since it has been a hellish Friday as well -

Work email is exchange
Personal email is pop

Why can't he have both on his device? Why do you need a forward?

Replies to personal would go out via that address and replies to
exchange would go out over that. New messages he/she would just elect
what account to use.

I'm doing that now on my govt bb :)

J

On 4/24/09, Eggan, Mark meg...@co.napa.ca.us wrote:
 Why can't Friday's be easy...?  This is a project that has been on the
 backburner for a bit now...



 So we have an elected official on our BES that wants to have all
 Corporate (County) email sent to his Exchange account then forwarded to
 his POP3 account (electedoffic...@somepop3domain.com.  Reason is he
 doesn't want John Q. Citizen thinking that the County Official is
 replying to personal emails on a BB that is paid for with tax dollars.
 Now to toss yet another wrench into this, he has an Administrative
 Professional (secretary) that is his Outlook delegate.  So she will need
 to be able to monitor meeting requests, etc.



 We are on BES 4.1.6  Exchange 2007 (yay for that upgrade..).



 This is what we are thinking of doing to facilitate this request, any
 ideas are absolutely welcome!



 * Creating a new policy on BES that will send POP3 and Corporate
 (County) email to his BB.  I thought that we could color code all emails
 coming from his POP3 so its immediately known that this is 'personal'
 email.  I recall seeing a policy that allows for color coding on
 different emails, so ill check that out.  Although that might have been
 device specific, sorry...thinking aloud.
 * Any time the user replies to a Corporate email, it will actually
 get sent out displaying his POP3 account email address.



 So would a BES policy be best practice, or maybe this:

 * Create a contact for his POP3 in AD, have all corporate email
 forward to this contact.
 * Create a rule in Outlook that allows the delegate access to
 meetings and such, sending out all meeting stuff out as the corporate
 email in lieu of his POP3 contact.



 Hmm, so yeah...any comments are most appreciated!  Thanks again





 Mark Eggan | ITS Help Desk | 259 -8142

 Information Systems Specialist II

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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate emailsentoutviahisPOPAccount

2009-04-24 Thread Eggan, Mark
Thanks, would this still register in the Sent Items within Outlook?  Or
does it go to the POP MTA?

Thanks!  
- Mark Eggan
 

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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:04 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate
emailsentoutviahisPOPAccount

Yes the latter will basically have the reply to address showing as the
pop
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:02:49 
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Re: [Bes-admins] User wants allCorporateemailsentoutviahisPOPAccount

2009-04-24 Thread Eggan, Mark
Nope, it isn’t.  Good point!  I wish I spent more time on Exchange 

Thanks!  
- Mark Eggan
 

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[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:17 PM
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Pop won't show in exchange. Unless the BES is configured to send through it via 
the IT policy. 


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From: Eggan, Mark meg...@co.napa.ca.us

Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:15:18 
To: wrbdec...@gmail.com; A list for BES Admin's to discuss 
issues,etc.bes-admins@dataoutages.com
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate
emailsentoutviahisPOPAccount


Thanks, would this still register in the Sent Items within Outlook?  Or
does it go to the POP MTA?

Thanks!
- Mark Eggan


-Original Message-
From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com
[mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of
wrbdec...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:04 PM
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues,etc.
Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate
emailsentoutviahisPOPAccount

Yes the latter will basically have the reply to address showing as the
pop
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:02:49
To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss
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Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] User wants all Corporate email sent
outviahisPOPAccount


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