The implementation of Link Bandwidth in FRR uses a transitive community to 
signal & perform an automatic accumulation at the AS boundary. This seems 
useful as it obviates the need for additional info (configuration) at each AS 
boundary to generate a new community using accumulated values.

From: Arie Vayner <ar...@vayner.net>
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To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.i...@gmail.com>
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The way I see this implementation, this is not really a transitive community. 
The values are consumed within the local AS, and then a new community is 
generated, based on accumulated values, at the AS boundary.

Tnx
Arie

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 2:52 PM Jeff Tantsura 
<jefftant.i...@gmail.com<mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Arie,

The way the draft reads, it is quite clear that IANA allocated Link Bandwidth 
Ext. Community (0x4004) should be used (and formally changed to transitive), 
I'd be rather surprised if it is not the case ( that would make implementations 
non interoperable).
I'm in the process of reviewing all existing implementations and will come back 
on this one. Implementers - please do respond (FRR incl)
Practically  - if there's wg consensus (I don't think this is needed, given 
there's a number of working implementations) to use a new extended community 
the document should become standard track with the formal IANA allocation 
request.

Thanks,
Jeff


On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 1:16 PM Arie Vayner 
<ar...@vayner.net<mailto:ar...@vayner.net>> wrote:
Jeff,

Actually, the way this draft is written, and how the implementations I'm aware 
of are implemented, this is not really a transitive community. It is a new 
community that is being generated on the AS boundary.
The community value is not carried over, but is calculated based on an 
cumulative value of other received communities, and then advertised as a new 
value across the AS boundary.

Tnx,
Arie

On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:55 PM Jeff Tantsura 
<jefftant.i...@gmail.com<mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I support adoption of the draft as Informational, please note, that request to 
change transitivity characteristics of the community is requested in another 
draft.
Gyan  - please note, while pretty much every vendor has implemented the 
community and relevant data-plane constructs, initial draft defines the 
community as non transititive, some vendors have followed that while some other 
have implemented it a transitive (to support obvious use case - eBGP in DC).


Cheers,
Jeff
On May 22, 2021, 8:38 AM -0700, Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) 
<satyamoh=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>>, wrote:

Hi all,

On behalf of all the authors, we request a discussion of the draft 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mohanty-bess-ebgp-dmz-03<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Fdraft-mohanty-bess-ebgp-dmz-03&data=04%7C01%7Cvivek%40nvidia.com%7Cbd4da59efe9f4e1f0d9f08d94105eae1%7C43083d15727340c1b7db39efd9ccc17a%7C0%7C0%7C637612316410191808%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=PviDsxhP3fdpeiaJ7kpLTfHhvW7CnRKckImnUhiR4PY%3D&reserved=0>
  and subsequent WG adoption.
This draft extends the usage of the DMZ link bandwidth to scenarios where the 
cumulative link bandwidth needs to be advertised to a BGP speaker.
Additionally, there is provision to send the link bandwidth extended community 
to EBGP speakers via configurable knobs. Please refer to section 3 and 4 for 
the use cases.

This feature has multiple-vendor implementations and has been deployed by 
several customers in their networks.

Best Regards,
--Satya
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