Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC7 & MusicInfoSCR

2008-05-31 Thread Michael Herger
> Michael, does MusicinfoSCR work on SC7.1?  When I click the settings for

It should. I'm using it with 7.2. What's MaxVersion or similar in install.xml 
set to?

> Slim::Networking::Select::select (245) Error: Select task failed: Can't
> call method "display" on an undefined value at
> Plugins/MusicInfoSCR/Settings.pm line 36.

What kind of player are you using?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Question re TP Firmware 42

2008-05-31 Thread lstern

Anyone?? Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't fast forward/rewind any more

2008-05-31 Thread Phil Meyer
The SC 7.0 functionality worked by changing the FF speed (thus actually being a 
fast-forward facility) within the Now Playing mode.  So the user could choose 
what to display - progress bar, play time or time remaining.

There was an alternative mechanism - KDF's scanner plugin, which allowed the 
playback position to be set.  Best of both worlds.

The intention of the rework was to make a fast-forward mechanism that was easy 
to use (apparently some found the manual speed control tricky to understand).

The initial solution that was agreed was to merge both mechanisms together, 
which I thought was working pretty well.

I like the way that FWD now by default invokes the new "set play position" 
mechanism, and continuing to hold FWD advances the playback position.  But the 
current solution doesn't support the old mechanism any more.

Up/Down work the same as FWD/REW now as these map to the Transporter knob.

I actually think that in the scanner mode screen, Add button could be used to 
increase FWD speed, and Add.Hold could be used to decrement, to use the old 
mechanism.  That's a pretty consistent interface; the new mechanism becomes the 
normal case and is easy to use.  The old mechanism would still be available, 
and easier to accelerate than before (single presses).

If the new functionality were to stay as it is now, it's actually not all that 
different to KDF's scanner plugin, except it is bound to the FWD.hold key.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Thumbnail problem...

2008-05-31 Thread MrC

Never mind - this seems to be a browser caching problem.  After clearing
the browser cache and forcing a reload, all is good again.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't fast forward/rewind any more

2008-05-31 Thread ctm

Millwood;306389 Wrote: 
> How should the software "know" that you are done seeking?  Remember, you
> can seek by holding down the fwd key, or by pressing up/down (SB3) or
> using the scroll wheel (Controller). After you press up, when are you
> "done".  The current answer is a time delay.  What's your alternative?

First, on my 7.1 build (admittedly 2-3 weeks old), the FF/RW and the
UP/DOWN buttons function identically, except one must use FF/RW to
initiate the seek.  Once the scanner is up, they work the same, at
least I haven't noticed  different speeds or accelerations or anything
difference.  I'm not even sure what the point is of the duplicated
functionality.  Why would I want to use the UP/DOWN buttons to seek?

Point is, one must hold any of those buttons down to continue seeking. 
Thus the software knows the user is done seeking when the button is no
longer being held down and thus can get rid of the scanner display. 
Similarly, the software can easily detect when the scroll wheel is no
longer moving to again stop seeking and get rid of the display.

Now to clarify, it isn't really the scanner display that bothers me,
but rather the mode of operation changes when the scanner display is
up.  Thus, delays and additional button presses are introduced to get
back to NORMAL CASE OPERATION, which is what I'm advocating be
eliminated.  Seeking is a transient operation which has easily
detectable start and end points and I don't see the difficulty in
getting the software to sync up with that.  CD players do it; why can't
SqueezeCenter et al. do it as easily too?  

Even if the UP/DOWN arrows worked differently than the FF/RW in that a
single press instantiated a seek (say 2x speed) without being held
down, detecting the end of a seek is not a problem.  The seek ends when
the user presses PLAY or PAUSE; easy!  However, the problem is how to
enable such a seek mode since the UP/DOWN buttons have meaning for both
single presses and held presses.  I don't claim to have THE solution to
that problem but off the top of my head, why not the following:

A non-button-hold seek could be started by a quick double tap of the
UP/DOWN arrow.  Alternatively, the double tap operation could be made
on the FF/RW (in addition to the [single press:skip track] and
[hold:seek] modes).  I think overloading the FF/RW again makes for more
intuitive sense for a user.  Then, while the scanner is up, the UP/DOWN
arrow keys could be used to change the speed from 0.25x, .5x, 1x, 2x,
4x, etc.  The only issue I can see is that there may be difficulty in
detecting a double tap from an IR remote; having never programmed for
one, is it an issue or is it easy to implement?  Having seeking
operating as above, looks to be the best of all worlds, with none of
the disadvantages.

However, is this a non-hold seek discussion even relevant?  AFAIK, this
non-hold seek model isn't even included in the 7.1 current builds and I
have no idea if it is even planned to be included.  It really isn't a
problem if it doesn't exist.  :)  I think that such a seek mode is
unnecessary and feel that it is less advantageous than the hold model. 
Furthermore, trying to accommodate to both appears to be complicating
the use of either.  It would be easy to add the single press 2x seek
using the arrows in the current model of bringing the scanner up until
a timeout or explicit escape occurs.  However, the current operation
doesn't optimize for the common case of usage and that is why it is
cumbersome to use.  Instead, it complicated for flexibility (yet
seemingly doesn't even offer that).  I'd rather see one seek model be
great, than have two different ones that are annoying to use.


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[SlimDevices: Beta] Thumbnail problem...

2008-05-31 Thread MrC

Hi folks,

I'm seeing a thumbnail problem where the thumbnail at the Home > Artist
> -artistname- level is incorrect, but at the Home > Artists >
-artistname- > -albumname- level the larger thumb is correct.

I'm running 7.0.x / SVN 20402.  I've stopped the server, deleted the
entire cache folder and rescanned completely.

An interesting note: I did try a 

perl scanner.pl --debug artwork --wipe "E:\My Music\Alpha\Pepper -
Remixes and Rare Tracks"

and that generated the correct thumbnail.  But as soon as I did the
full rescan, the incorrect thumbnail shown below in the red arrow
appeared again.

Any thoughts ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No Windows build in today's nightlies

2008-05-31 Thread Matt Wise

PSSO;307185 Wrote: 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48309

Sorry guys ... we're doing alot of work to our build system, and there
are going to be some days where certain builds fail. The good news is
that when a build fails, it no longer gets uploaded. The bad news, more
of them are failing right now as we work some kinks out.

I'll get all the builds up as soon as possible...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No Windows build in today's nightlies

2008-05-31 Thread PSSO

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SC7 & MusicInfoSCR

2008-05-31 Thread tamanaco

Michael, does MusicinfoSCR work on SC7.1?  When I click the settings for
MusicinfoSCR in Plugins tab nothing happens. Also MusicinfoSCR is not
listed under the Advanced tab.  I was running 3.99.5 beta, but just
installed 4.1.0 downloaded from your site and got the same result. When
I look at the log after trying to access the setting page I see the
following error.
Slim::Networking::Select::select (245) Error: Select task failed: Can't
call method "display" on an undefined value at
Plugins/MusicInfoSCR/Settings.pm line 36.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No Windows build in today's nightlies

2008-05-31 Thread bonze

tamanaco;307151 Wrote: 
> No 7.1 Windows Nightly again today 05/31/08or 7.2, or 7.3 .


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] MusicIP Beta 1.9b4 on SC... anyone?

2008-05-31 Thread dwilliams01

tamanaco;306781 Wrote: 
> Anyone out there playing with this release of MusicIP on SC7.x? Before I
> dive "solo" into the abyss, I'd like to find out if it will work at all
> with SC or if there are they're any pitfalls I should avoid. 1.81b is
> working fine for me, but my stupid obsession of constantly updating my
> computers and playing with betas is getting the best of me. Someone
> give me a excuse not to break my working setup and waste more of my
> time installing stuff that won't improve anything.
> 
> Thanks

A sure-fire cure for jumping into changes with both feet would be to
install both Windows XP sp3 and Vista sp1 (on 2 different boxes) in the
same week...  I did that 3 weeks ago and still haven't gotten everything
fully working again (although I can log into the vista box now,
yeah!!!).  Granted that they were not betas but that doesn't make the
pill any less bitter.

It's harsh medicine, I agree, but I now might even be able to wait a
couple of weeks for the next MIP beta cut before trying it...  :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.01 Scrollbars

2008-05-31 Thread bonze

mherger;307144 Wrote: 
> 
> What browser and version?Oops! meant to add that before :)

IE7 7.0.5730.13


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No Windows build in today's nightlies

2008-05-31 Thread tamanaco

No 7.1 Windows Nightly again today 05/31/08


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.01 Scrollbars

2008-05-31 Thread Michael Herger
> When the web GUI is first opened the name is OK but switching to an
> alternate, or even the same, player and the name shrinks to one
> character.

What browser and version?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.01 Scrollbars

2008-05-31 Thread bonze

smr888;278560 Wrote: 
> Possibly related -- I get these truncated player names fairly frequently
> as the currently selected player.  The menu works correctly:I'm getting this 
> now too - not sure when it started happening.
When the web GUI is first opened the name is OK but switching to an
alternate, or even the same, player and the name shrinks to one
character.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Release notes for 7.0.2 and 7.1?

2008-05-31 Thread SoftPhill

Any chance WOL for controller working yet in 7.1 I am holding off until
this one works but it is a big bug for me. 

Got round it for now by using the SB3 and the factory test  --> 
Infrared --> Power button but i would have rather put the receiver
where i have to use an SB3 right now


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