[SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Today I lost all control of my LMS using software players. I'm using 7.9, and was on last night's build. I've gone back to an earlier one but still nothing. I'm very confused. The log is absolutely full of the following. Code: [14-12-22 10:31:19.9788] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:19.9800] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 432000 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:22.0766] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:22.0781] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 518400 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:22.1813] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:22.1826] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 604800 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:23.2034] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:23.2046] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 691200 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:24.2781] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:24.2794] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 777600 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:24.3823] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:24.3835] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 864000 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:25.5886] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 86400 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:25.7915] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 172800 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:25.8956] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 259200 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:26.4852] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Operation now in progress [14-12-22 10:31:26.4866] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Operation now in progress, retrying in 345600 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:26.5901] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Operation now in progress [14-12-22 10:31:26.5913] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Operation now in progress, retrying in 432000 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:27.6862] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: [14-12-22 10:31:27.6875] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 518400 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:27.7794] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 604800 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:27.9933] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 691200 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:28.0971] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 777600 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:29.6940] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: , retrying in 864000 seconds [14-12-22 10:31:29.7828] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (527) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Is it trying to log in to LMS over the web? LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
SN stands for Squeezenetwork which was the old name for mysqueezebox.com so LMS lost its conection to mysqueezebox.com . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Mnyb wrote: SN stands for Squeezenetwork which was the old name for mysqueezebox.com so LMS lost its conection to mysqueezebox.com . I feared so. Now please don't tell me that I can't use my home network if I lose that connection! That would be a disastrous design flaw and would make me give up LMS tomorrow :( LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Hmmm, good question. But then again, I've had the internet connection go down but continue to use my local LMS to play my own music to my Squeezebox players. They are all hardware players (touch, transporter, radio), but I can't see why software SB players would be any different. And all my players are registered with mysb.com, etc. Were you trying to play local music or internet streaming? *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
PasTim wrote: I feared so. Now please don't tell me that I can't use my home network if I lose that connection! That would be a disastrous design flaw and would make me give up LMS tomorrow :( LMS works fine without LMS , you loose the apps and some radio entries , but for example triodes spotify app will continue to work and local files are working just fine . Just pull incommong internet and see how it looks like . But if you moved a player to mysqueezebox.com you must move it over to LMS with it's own inteface or ipeng , the player tab in LMS web can not fetch players from mysb.com if cant connect . But these conection erros are usually remporary restart the server and its gone (if not mysb.com has the usuall holliday problems it has every year. ) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Mnyb wrote: LMS works fine without LMS , you loose the apps and some radio entries , but for example triodes spotify app will continue to work and local files are working just fine . Just pull incommong internet and see how it looks like . But if you moved a player to mysqueezebox.com you must move it over to LMS with it's own inteface or ipeng , the player tab in LMS web can not fetch players from mysb.com if cant connect . But these conection erros are usually remporary restart the server and its gone (if not mysb.com has the usuall holliday problems it has every year. ) How would I 'move a player to mysqueezebox.com'? I've never consciously done so. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
PasTim wrote: Local music only. I stream very little. What does 'registered' with mysb.com mean? If I login to my account at mysqueezebox.com and click on player tab, I see all my players listed. In my cases they show as not connected because they are all instead connected to my local LMS. Been a while, but I recall that when I setup my players initially, I had to enter my mysqueezebox.com account information. This was the registration. Although I'm using LMS, some streaming requires the mysb.com intermediary (siriusXM, pandora, etc.) *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
PasTim wrote: Local music only. I stream very little. What does 'registered' with mysb.com mean? Some people have no local LMS at all and some have music services and use radio apps that needs the mysb.com infrastructure in the background even if you use local LMS . Logitech does not give away this service for free ,its included when you buy a squeezebox . So they need some sort of registration/sanity check so that only proper squeezeboxes connects and uses the services . And some services are personalized to your account and your player . PasTim wrote: How would I 'move a player to mysqueezebox.com'? I've never consciously done so. Then some of them are just registred but not connected . You softplayers are probably not registred there if they are it's not problem either . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Mnyb wrote: Some people have no local LMS at all and some have music services and use radio apps that needs the mysb.com infrastructure in the background even if you use local LMS . Logitech does not give away this service for free ,its included when you buy a squeezebox . So they need some sort of registration/sanity check so that only proper squeezeboxes connects and uses the services . And some services are personalized to your account and your player . Then some of them are just registred but not connected . You softplayers are probably not registred there if they are it's not problem either . In turns out that all my players, including non-LMS players (UPnP renderers) are registered there, even though I really don't want them to be. I am now in a very strange situation. I completed deleted LMS and reinstalled it (latest 7.9). My UPnP devices (1 hardware and 2 software running at present) show as players, even though I have not yet run squeeze2upnp (a squeelite variant to support UPnP renderers). It seems that mysqueezebox.com has got to know about them, and insists they exist and tells LMS. So I log onto mysqueezebox.com and delete them. Stop and restart LMS. And they come back again! Further, mysqueezebox.com has got to know about them again. I have disabled upnp within LMS (using a --noupnp startup option) just in case the LMS UPnP server facility was getting into the act somehow. To use an English expression - 'pardon my French, but WTF?' LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
PasTim wrote: So I log onto mysqueezebox.com and delete them. Stop and restart LMS. *And they come back again! Further, mysqueezebox.com has got to know about them again*. Clarify that statement a bit. When you say they come back and mysb.com has got to know about them again, do you mean that the players again show up in mysqueezebox.com as registered players? If so, I assume they show in mysb.com as not connected? or do they show up as Connected? *Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) LMS 7.8 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 Squeezelite *Spares:* Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S iPadAir2 (iPeng8 Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
PasTim wrote: In turns out that all my players, including non-LMS players (UPnP renderers) are registered there, even though I really don't want them to be. I am now in a very strange situation. I completed deleted LMS and reinstalled it (latest 7.9). My UPnP devices (1 hardware and 2 software running at present) show as players, even though I have not yet run squeeze2upnp (a squeelite variant to support UPnP renderers). It seems that mysqueezebox.com has got to know about them, and insists they exist and tells LMS. So I log onto mysqueezebox.com and delete them. Stop and restart LMS. And they come back again! Further, mysqueezebox.com has got to know about them again. I have disabled upnp within LMS (using a --noupnp startup option) just in case the LMS UPnP server facility was getting into the act somehow. To use an English expression - 'pardon my French, but WTF?' LMS autoregisters players in the background . But i dont think this is your problem or a problem for you , it is a potential problem for mysb.com as they register players that should not really belong (no real hardware player sold ). Do playback work again ? Seems that the LMS/mysqueezebox.com conection issue is gone anyway . It's probably a reed herring, i too see theese entries in my logs on a fully functiong system with no problems . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
garym wrote: Clarify that statement a bit. When you say they come back and mysb.com has got to know about them again, do you mean that the players again show up in mysqueezebox.com as registered players? If so, I assume they show in mysb.com as not connected? or do they show up as Connected? Well I now seem to have made these devices disappear from mysqueezebox.com, and stay so (it seems you have to save the player preferences after deleting them - I may not have done so). However, is there something new in LMS 7.9 latest about upnp devices? My software renderers now appear all the time in the players list. I have removed the UPnP plugin and run with --noupnp, with no effect. LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Lost ability to play on software players
Well, all very strange. I kept having some UPnP renderers show up as LMS players even though the software to drive them (called squeeze2upnp) definitely wasn't running. After managing the interface between my head and a brick wall, reinstalling LMS 7.9 latest (deleting most things but not the prefs), rescanning, I still had a problem. I found and edited the offending devices out of server.prefs, and although they got added in again to server.prefs and showed briefly as LMS players the next time the driving software (squeeze2upnp) ran they disappeared properly when it was stopped, and the other players are now working properly again. So I think some setting in server.prefs must have got corrupted somehow. I still don't know how the UPnP devices got registered in mysb.com, but that can remain a little puzzle (for now at least). LMS 7.9 on VortexBox Midi, Xubuntu 14.04, FLACs 16-24 bit, 44.1-192kbps. LMS Squeeze2upnp (Beta - derived from squeezelite) to Musical Fidelity M1 CLiC and Marantz CR603 UPnP renderers. Squeezelite to PC sound. Minimserver (server) and upplay (control point) to same amps to upmpdcli/mpd PC renderers. Meridian USB Explorer DAC from PCs to speakers/headphones. Wireless Xubuntu 14.04 laptop controls LMS/upplay via Firefox. Have a Touch with EDO, and a spare, but don't use. PasTim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41642 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102757 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
