Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-25 Thread tamanaco

I just looked at the NP interface of Squeezeplay beta (see pic). Maybe
the same or very similar layout for the SN Remote Control will work.
This way there is consistency across Squeezeplay,  the Controller and
the SN Remote Control. No need to get used to the different players
layouts that currently exist across the official interfaces. The track
info in Squeezeplay scrolls across the top, but the album name can use a
smaller font to fit long Artist/Album names.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-24 Thread Mnyb

About the crayon stuff it's probably very chic and modern design ;)
Like the new nightclubs that looks like iPods these days, o well I'm
getting old.

I'm all for this design if somebody could code it to adapt the screen
resolution of the user. I have a wide-screen monitor I got huge whites
paces at the sides with nothing in them.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-24 Thread funkstar

MrC;460783 Wrote: 
 So, where's the Logitech logo?  Apple's Logo is prominent: upper left. 
 Dell's is prominent: upper left.  IBM's is prominent: upper left. 
 Sonos' is: prominent, upper left.  Logitech's... is hidden under the
 fold.  :-)
 
 I still think the site looks good.
But the Logitech Squeezebox logo is top left :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-24 Thread Michael Herger
 But the Logitech Squeezebox logo is top left

...and that's everything that counts, isn't it? :-)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread tamanaco

I noticed that the SC 7.4 code is already targeted for general release
and only bug fixes are being admitted. Is the current test.sn targeted
to be released at the same time? If so, is the Remote Control function
going to be released as is or is there still room for some changes? I
hope that there still time to improve on the semi-transparent
currently-playing-track-info overlay that covers half of album art. (see
pic)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread Michael Herger
 hope that there still time to improve on the semi-transparent
 currently-playing-track-info overlay that covers half of album art

While it's too late to change this for this release, what would you want  
to see changed for the next release? Remove it? Make it opaque?
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread tamanaco

mherger;460655 Wrote: 
  hope that there still time to improve on the semi-transparent
  currently-playing-track-info overlay that covers half of album art
 
 While it's too late to change this for this release, what would you
 want  
 to see changed for the next release? Remove it? Make it opaque?

The current SN Web UI uses smaller Album Art and places the track info
on the side. Something similar could be done in the next release.
Scrolling the text on the top or button of the Album Art would work. If
small Album Art size is an issue, enlarge the size of the Album Art once
the user hovers over it with the mouse.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread mweldon

JJZolx;460677 Wrote: 
 I don't really get this design.  You're working within a small browser
 window, so if you need more room to display text and artwork without
 overlaying them, just make the window bigger.  Also, the NP text being
 overlayed is much larger than it needs to be.
 
 The layout of the undocked window design from the default skin in the
 web interface makes more sense.  The content browse pane could be below
 the NP information and player controls.

Several points here:

- requirements kept getting changed during the design process.  If I'd
known what functionality would be supported at this point when the
design started, this feature might look quite different than it does
right now.
- The original design was much more compact (Just the album cover area
with the transport control overlays and artist/album info).  And, even
when the design gets refactored, it will still be less than full-page
size.  The idea is to give the typical user an easy means to navigate
away from the website while keeping the Web Remote Control within easy
reach (the pop-up behavior keeps users from needing to manually open a
new tab/window; the smaller size makes it possible to have the Remote
open next to another browser window or application at the same time).
- We definitely plan to add design and functionality improvements going
forward.  The redesign is just a new foundation; we can still keep
building and making design improvements going forward.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread mweldon

JJZolx;455207 Wrote: 
 The Home page looks like it was drawn with crayons.

Thanks for being so understanding and diplomatic. Seeing that we're
actual human beings, and not just some faceless corporation, we really
appreciate that.  ;)

One thing I should point out to you guys:

- For the first several weeks after launch, the majority of site
visitors will be

A) first-time Squeezebox owners who know nothing about our system other
than what's on the box or in the Quick Start Guide (assuming they read
it).  A fair amount of education needs to be done regarding Apps, and
yes we're proud of them, and yes they are displayed pretty prominently
on the home page.

B) (NON-BETA TESTER) existing users who will suddenly wake up one
morning and see a brand-new menu structure on their Squeezebox, with
little or no explanation as to what the heck is going on (we are telling
users there has been a major upgrade and to visit squeezenetwork.com. 
SN.com will redirect to a what's new page before sending them along to
this new home page).

So in both cases, the new home page is sort of the introduction to our
new system and what the deal is with apps.  Unlike you guys, most of
these users will have no idea the range of things we now offer.



The website won't stay this way forever.  We'll get through xmas
season, the traffic/sales will die down a bit, and most people will be
familiar with the new system.  At that point we'll definitely tone down,
alter or even remove the bug hero area at the top of the home page. 
But for now, yeah this is a big change, and yeah we want to emphasize
that with a large/prominent top section on the home page.



As for having to scroll down:

http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/blasting-the-myth-of

I also highly recommend this book, it's a great read ;-)
http://www.whomovedmycheese.com/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread MrC

mweldon;460778 Wrote: 
 
 As for having to scroll down:
 
 http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/blasting-the-myth-of
 
 EDIT: Having to side-scroll at 1024 screen-width is indeed a bug. 
 We'll work to fix that ASAP; the site width is supposed to be around 980
 pixels.  I think something is going on with the drop-shadow graphics
 around the bottom panels...

Be careful of the documents you choose...

... as the quoted document also states:

 
 ...Branding must be above the fold.
 

So, where's the Logitech logo?  Apple's Logo is prominent: upper left. 
Dell's is prominent: upper left.  IBM's is prominent: upper left. 
Sonos' is: prominent, upper left.  Logitech's... is hidden under the
fold.  :-)

I still think the site looks good.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-23 Thread pippin

Yep, same here.

_I_ have to say that I like the new layout much, much better than the
old one.
The old one was very crowded and I never really found my way through
it.
The new one is light, looks good and is actually pretty simple to
navigate. I especially like the players overview.
There may be some quirks but many less than before. Here's hoping that
the web UI will finally look like this, too.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-22 Thread JJZolx

mherger;456881 Wrote: 
  The 'Account Settings' and 'Change Password' forms don't use the same
  styling as the rest of the site, where each setting name is in bold
  text.
 
 Good catch! Thanks!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-10 Thread JJZolx

A couple more minor styling issues:

The 'Account Settings' and 'Change Password' forms don't use the same
styling as the rest of the site, where each setting name is in bold
text.

There should be a little more space between the player 'Disconnect' and
'Delete' buttons.  I also think the contrast between the disabled,
grayed out buttons and the enabled buttons could be better.  Making the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Herger
 The 'Account Settings' and 'Change Password' forms don't use the same
 styling as the rest of the site, where each setting name is in bold
 text.

Good catch! Thanks!
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread JJZolx

What's that weird fuzzy gray horizontal bar that runs through the tabbed
pages?  I'm not talking about the thing in the nav column on the left. 
It looks like some kind of background image.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread JJZolx

Will the grayed out 'Disconnect' button become an active 'Connect'
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Herger
 What's that weird fuzzy gray horizontal bar that runs through the tabbed

It's obviously a weird fuzzy grey background.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Herger
 Will the grayed out 'Disconnect' button become an active 'Connect'
 button on players that aren't attached to SN?

No. SN can't talk to SC in real time. It would take SC = 5 minutes to  
receive the command.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread JJZolx

mherger;456701 Wrote: 
  What's that weird fuzzy gray horizontal bar that runs through the
 tabbed
 
 It's obviously a weird fuzzy grey background.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread Michael Herger
 Thumbs down.

You can't argue taste :-)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread JJZolx

mherger;456706 Wrote: 
  Thumbs down.
 
 You can't argue taste :-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread funkstar

mherger;456706 Wrote: 
 You can't argue taste :-)
Jim can :P


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread JJZolx

I thought my monitor had developed a defect until I scrolled the page
and the smudge moved.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-09 Thread bluegaspode

JJZolx;456759 Wrote: 
 I thought my monitor had developed a defect until I scrolled the page
 and the smudge moved.

guess this 'smudge' is trying to represent shiny metal.
Or maybe just a grey horizontal bar indeed :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-06 Thread JJZolx

mherger;42 Wrote: 
  You are going to be able to eventually identify Baby as a Squeezebox
  Radio instead of a Controller, right?
 
 Hmm... this should have been in place for a while now. In fact: my
 Touches  
 and Babies show up as such (incl. icon). But if you've never actually 
 
 connected to SN since that code was added (eg. because you're running
 SC  
 anyway) the data might not have been added yet.

Ok.  That was it.  I forced the Baby to connect to SN and it was
corrected.

(I'll say it again.  It's a PITA, and not at all obvious how to force a
connection to SN, since you must shut down the local server to do so. 
There needs to be an explicit way to switch to SN even with the local
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread peterw

mherger;455268 Wrote: 
  2. The pages are set in a fixed width, but it's about 30-40 pixels
 too
  wide to fit on a 1024 pixel wide display.
 
 That was a deliberate decision based on server stats.
 

Ick. I find myself using my netbook increasingly often, and very, very
few netbooks have screens wider than 1024. The latest crop are actually
smaller: 1024x600 used to be the norm, but now some major vendors are
shipping 1024x576. And netbook sales are on the rise:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/31/report-netbooks-now-a-fifth-of-all-portable-computer-shipments/


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Mnyb

Schindler;455280 Wrote: 
 i even have to scrool up/down on my 24 wide monitor... ;-)

Me to on  1920*1080 screen resolution !


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Herger
 i even have to scrool up/down on my 24 wide monitor... ;-)

Maximze your browser window :-).

I must admit - it's too tall for me too. We'll see.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Herger
 Me to on  1920*1080 screen resolution !

Can't you flip it into portrait mode? Oh, hold on... then it's too wide.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Herger
 Ick. I find myself using my netbook increasingly often, and very, very

That's something I've mentioned too. Increased use of smaller screens. I  
was surprised that a.) it didn't crash Safari on iPod Touch, and b.) the  
animation on there was quite good too. It seems to be using some smart  
zooming which desktop browser still lack.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread mherger

Ouch... just tried Opera's fit to screen feature...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread bonze

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Mnyb

mherger;455287 Wrote: 
  Me to on  1920*1080 screen resolution !
 
 Can't you flip it into portrait mode? Oh, hold on... then it's too
 wide.

1080*1920 :) is that why all movies i have looks like small strip from
floor to roof must adjust my projector to...

zooming in FF can be used but it's to crude and everything gets very
smal.
a lot of white on the side on widescreen monitors.

BTw where are the days when websites actually offered different
resolutions .
Can this not be detected by the browser somehow and then your site
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Mnyb

Could not the app scroller be vertical and on one side with widescreen
monitors ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread tamanaco

Maybe is just me, but the only reason I visit SN is to interact with the
player and view the info of the currently playing track. In this new
design the Remote Control appear to be an after-thought. If I try to
open it directly in the browser in full screen via 
http://www.test.squeezenetwork.com/player/playerControl the resulting
layout in full screen is not very pretty. I'd have preferred something
similar to the Slacker Web Player http://www.slacker.com/  As it
currently stands the Player UI is a bit too simplistic and leaves a lot
to be desired.  Probably because is not finished yet.

I know that the SN Home Page is there to advertise the availability of
partner's services, but as a current client once I add the Apps and
customize the settings per player (a rare event I hope) what's the
incentive for me to visit the SN Home Page?... I don't want to go there
just to click the Remote Control link.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread pichonCalavera

I haven't used Squeezenetwork since like a year (I have a local server
with Squeezecenter always on), but I think this looks better than the
previous design, and altough I agree that the remote control section
should take a better spot on the page layout, with the new Radio and
Touch products my guess is that the main control would be from the
devices itself, now that they have a color screen.


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*normalize* (replaygain/foobar2000)  *albumart* (www/firefox) 
*transport* (winscp)  *store* (debian)  *manage* (squeezecenter) 
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(zpre2)  *amplify* (zampv3)  *listen* (axiomm2/sennheiser-hd595) 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread MrC

mherger;455286 Wrote: 
  i even have to scrool up/down on my 24 wide monitor... ;-)
 
 Maximze your browser window :-).
 
 I must admit - it's too tall for me too. We'll see.

I just tried Maximized in Safari on my MacBook Pro 1920x1200. 
Scrolling is required.  The irony is that its the Logitech logo that's
cutoff - what marketing brainiac decided that was a good idea! :-)

Overall I think the new site looks pretty good.  Sorry JJ, I think your
criticism might be a bit harsh and unfair.  Might be time to re-treat
those kid gloves. :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Herger
 There's a Matrix App ??

On Opera only. Won't run on SliMP3.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Herger
 You are going to be able to eventually identify Baby as a Squeezebox
 Radio instead of a Controller, right?

Hmm... this should have been in place for a while now. In fact: my Touches  
and Babies show up as such (incl. icon). But if you've never actually  
connected to SN since that code was added (eg. because you're running SC  
anyway) the data might not have been added yet.

 Would also be nice if you could
 differentiate between a Squeezebox 2 and a Squeezebox 3.

I'd say we used to have this too. Feel free to file a bug.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-04 Thread kdf

 1. The Home page looks like it was drawn with crayons.

Nice opener! A model of constructive criticism as always.
-k

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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Miksis

Ben Sandee;455229 Wrote: 
 Hmm, what browser?  Granted, I don't have a 1024-width screen
 (1280x1024) but it looks great to me.  I'll try it on my netbook and see
 if it's usable at all.

It's a well known fact that wider screens make crayon drawings look
better ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-04 Thread JJZolx

I like the design and the functionality is great.  It could just stand
to be tighter.

 the only shade of green that hurts

That's awesome.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-04 Thread Mnyb

Besides the little to large scrolling icons I think it's looking good.
Much better than the old design a quantum leap I say !, it's functions
is very well thought out too. I'm very pleased with it

If you want criticism, imho the design is slanted at presenting the
new exciting offers from our partners
The main focus for me is that I want to use and admin my players, a
little vague but it's the feel I get.

And now in the spirit of this tread ;) I relieved by the fact that
logitech realizes that they have invented the only shade of green that
hurts, so they have removed much of the logitech green it from SN
layout thank you.

How about color themes to the web-UI for SBS sans that green ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] New MySqueezebox.com (test.squeezenetwork.com) site layout

2009-09-04 Thread Michael Herger
 2. The pages are set in a fixed width, but it's about 30-40 pixels too
 wide to fit on a 1024 pixel wide display.

That was a deliberate decision based on server stats.

Michael
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