Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Mnyb wrote: > Just some of the problems solved by flac files is good error correction > and well supported tags . > > With good tags you can ditch the folder browse mode . > > The benefit is that file name and tag can be different . So you can use > OS friendly file names and tag the files correctly with all the weird > accents and punctuation you want without conflict . > > wav do have some tag support with some tagging software , but it's not > that well supported . The problem is that Real Audiophiles are prepared to give up all that convenience if they believe it will buy them even a tiny improvement in sound quality - many are actually proud of it. Unfortunately a lot of audiophile folklore and voodoo is not actually based on facts, so usually there is no actual improvement. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Just some of the problems solved by flac files is good error correction and well supported tags . With good tags you can ditch the folder browse mode . The benefit is that file name and tag can be different . So you can use OS friendly file names and tag the files correctly with all the weird accents and punctuation you want without conflict . wav do have some tag support with some tagging software , but it's not that well supported . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > I have a very high end system. The difference is obvious to anyone who > actually listens. I guarantee that I could sit you down, do a blind AB > and you would hear it. Even my wife hears it, without knowing what's > going on. The explanation is the extra processing DACs have to do in > uncompressing FLAC. This generates noise that creates jitter. Wow - that was a lot of audiophile folklore/superstition/phraseology compressed into one single, short message! :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
And no, DACs don't uncompress FLAC. And no, the processing on the player side need not be higher, too. All myths. Plus, you could just decode on the server if it were true. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Bet. When do we do it? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
I have a very high end system. The difference is obvious to anyone who actually listens. I guarantee that I could sit you down, do a blind AB and you would hear it. Even my wife hears it, without knowing what's going on. The explanation is the extra processing DACs have to do in uncompressing FLAC. This generates noise that creates jitter. Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > The reason I switched from FLAC to WAV is improved sound quality. Another Audiophoolish Myth. and you really "detect" improved Sound Quality? I only detect improved Sound Quality from WAV over FLAC when i am listening to José Plácebo Domingo. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > The issue exists for FLAC or WAV. If there is punctuation at the end of > a folder or file title, it won't display. Also, if there is a "/" in > the middle of the title. > > The reason I switched from FLAC to WAV is improved sound quality. There is no improved sound quality with WAV compared to FLAC. Quite to the contrary there are a number of scenarios where WAV causes trouble. And in the default configuration LMS will encode it as FLAC anyway for streaming --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
> The issue exists for FLAC or WAV. If there is punctuation at the end of > a folder or file title, it won't display. Also, if there is a "/" in > the middle of the title. As mentioned above, this could be solved by using FLAC files and putting names and titles into the tags. > The reason I switched from FLAC to WAV is improved sound quality. How ever you came to this conclusion you should reconsider/evaluate this again. There should be no real difference. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
And one more thing: unless you have _very_ good reason to use WAV and BMF, I'd suggest you convert your files to flac and properly tag them. Or at the very least make sure they all have a title tag. You're currently using about the worst combination possible in LMS to access your music (incomplete tags, WAV, BMF). -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ok. Done. Ok, this one indeed comes with a question mark at the end: 3-08 Is It True?.wav What would you see? Do you have other examples which would have something else in the filename, but which would show as a question mark? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
I've uploaded one song with a question mark at the end. That file doesn't even come with a title. Here's all the tags I'm seeing: ALBUM ARTIST: Eagles APIC: [ image/jpeg, 3, Picture, 564513, 224201117 ] IART: Eagles ICRD: 2013 IGNR: Pop IPRD: On the Border IPRT: 8 TALB: On the Border TCON: Pop TDRC: 2013 TOOL NAME: HDtracks Downloader TPE1: Eagles TRCK: 8 Therefore the title most likely is guessed from the file name. Unfortunately that filename probably got modified by Dropbox in the upload process. It does indeed come with a dash at the end "TXX WXXX - 3-08 Is It True-.wav". This dash _could_ be something else which got replaced. Can you zip the file and upload the archived version? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
DJanGo wrote: > i mean how is it mounted and which format does it have. > > Redhat should use fstab like debian - so cat /etc/mtab should help go > get that information. > Now we knew its a 1tb Disk we find the matching SD# Sorry. Like I said, I'm out of my depth here. I don't even know what that means. I guess I was hoping this was a known issue and not an obscure problem. Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > Sorry, I'm out of my depth here. The drive is a 1TB card that plugs > into a slot on the motherboard of the Sonic Orbiter. On my MPD player > (PK90), which I seem to remember had the same issue, it was an external, > bus-powered, USB hard drive. i mean how is it mounted and which format does it have. Redhat should use fstab like debian - so cat /etc/mtab should help go get that information. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
DJanGo wrote: > ok and in the next reply i get the answer for the 2.nd question? Sorry, I'm out of my depth here. The drive is a 1TB card that plugs into a slot on the motherboard of the Sonic Orbiter. On my MPD player (PK90), which I seem to remember had the same issue, it was an external, bus-powered, USB hard drive. Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > I don't use a NAS. My music server has internal storage. ok and in the next reply i get the answer for the 2.nd question? Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
DJanGo wrote: > is that file on the same device or did you use a NAS? > How is that drive mounted? > > sorry Red-Hat is not on my Workbench. I don't use a NAS. My music server has internal storage. Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > I've uploaded one song with a question mark at the end is that file on the same device or did you use a NAS? How is that drive mounted? sorry Red-Hat is not on my Workbench. Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
mherger wrote: > > In the web LMS the same punctuation characters are left blank. I.E. > > R.E.M. is R.E.M > > Could you please provide one such file for investigation? > > https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a > > The fact that Queensrÿche does show correctly would make me think that > the system can handle non-latin characters up to a certain point. > > And tbh. I have no idea what Sonic Orbiter or MPaD or PK90SB are... Some > > more information might be helpful, too. > > -- > > Michael I've uploaded one song with a question mark at the end. Sonic Orbiter and PK90USB are small Linux based music servers. MPaD is the app used to control the PK90USB. I use iPeng to control the Sonicorbiter. Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
DJanGo wrote: > Plaese provide the informations from > http://your.lms.ip:9000/settings/index.html ->last tab > [information]->first chapter (status) > > If there is another than UTF-8 listed you have to alter your OS to > UTF-8 > > btw. some Os have their own "forbidden/internal use only" characters eg. > Files/Folders with leading '.' are hidden under *ux * BSD (OS/X). 19666 +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot 2016-01-06 at 12.03.27 PM.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=19666| +---+ Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Sonic Orbiter is VortexBox, btw --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
Ultrarunner wrote: > In the web LMS the same punctuation characters are left blank. I.E. > R.E.M. is R.E.M Plaese provide the informations from http://your.lms.ip:9000/settings/index.html ->last tab [information]->first chapter (status) If there is another than UTF-8 listed you have to alter your OS to UTF-8 btw. some Os have their own "forbidden/internal use only" characters eg. Files/Folders with leading '.' are hidden under *ux * BSD (OS/X). Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
In the web LMS the same punctuation characters are left blank. I.E. R.E.M. is R.E.M Could you please provide one such file for investigation? https://www.dropbox.com/request/T3RctyzGgNg0oFDubq6a The fact that Queensrÿche does show correctly would make me think that the system can handle non-latin characters up to a certain point. And tbh. I have no idea what Sonic Orbiter or MPaD or PK90SB are... Some more information might be helpful, too. -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
mherger wrote: > How do these characters show in eg. the web UI or on the player's > display? On what platform are you running your LMS? > > -- > > Michael In the web LMS the same punctuation characters are left blank. I.E. R.E.M. is R.E.M I am running LMS and the player on a device that runs Sonic Orbiter software. I've also noticed the same thing when I used to use MPaD on a different server (PK90USB). Sonic Orbiter > Ayre DX-5 DSD > Ayre KX-R > Ayre MX-R Twenty > YG Kipod II Signature Passive Ultrarunner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64252 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104956 ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Punctuation Display Problem
How do these characters show in eg. the web UI or on the player's display? On what platform are you running your LMS? -- Michael ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
