Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

2021-02-09 Thread Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers 
Apologies, my weakness for "snappy" responses got the better
of me rather than taking a deep breath and discussing the
issue at hand.

The decision has been unilaterally made, which is your
prerogative, however when questioned why this decision
was made I do not think "why don't you explain why not?"
is a satisfying answer.

The Monday meetings have been a stable of blender development
for as long as i have been involved with blender, having them
canceled without even a mention it was being considered is
strange and some explanation how this came out of nowhere
would be appreciated

--Ray



On 2021-02-09 9:14 a.m., Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers wrote:
> i hear the Tuesday meetings are a joy
>
> --Ray
>
> On 2021-02-09 8:59 a.m., Dalai Felinto wrote:
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> Which reasons do you see to keep the meeting(s)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dalai
>>
>> Op ma 8 feb. 2021 om 17:46 schreef Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers 
>> mailto:bf-committers@blender.org>>:
>>
>> That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the 
>> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones 
>> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
>>
>> --Ray
>>
>> On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are 
>> currently on
>> > hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
>> >
>> > The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
>> > miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
>> > like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead 
>> is to
>> > make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate 
>> autonomously.
>> > But this is a separate topic.
>> >
>> > I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
>> > module and projects:
>> >
>> > * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
>> > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
>> > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
>> > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
>> > asynchronously.
>> > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
>> > here.
>> >
>> > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475 
>> .
>> >
>> > Any feedback is welcome.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > -Dalai-
>> > 
>> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org  - 
>> www.blender.org 
>> > Blender Development Coordinator
>> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> -Dalai-
>> 
>> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org  - 
>> www.blender.org 
>> Blender Development Coordinator
>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

2021-02-09 Thread Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers 
i hear the Tuesday meetings are a joy

--Ray

On 2021-02-09 8:59 a.m., Dalai Felinto wrote:
> Hi Ray,
>
> Which reasons do you see to keep the meeting(s)?
>
> Thanks,
> Dalai
>
> Op ma 8 feb. 2021 om 17:46 schreef Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers 
> mailto:bf-committers@blender.org>>:
>
> That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the 
> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones 
> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
>
> --Ray
>
> On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are 
> currently on
> > hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >
> > The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> > miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> > like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead 
> is to
> > make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate 
> autonomously.
> > But this is a separate topic.
> >
> > I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> > module and projects:
> >
> > * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > asynchronously.
> > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> > here.
> >
> > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475 
> .
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Dalai-
> > 
> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org  - 
> www.blender.org 
> > Blender Development Coordinator
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> > ___
> > Bf-committers mailing list
> > Bf-committers@blender.org 
> > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers 
> 
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>
>
>
> -- 
>
> -Dalai-
> 
> Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org  - 
> www.blender.org 
> Blender Development Coordinator
> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
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Re: [Bf-committers] No Monday or Tuesday meetings for the time being

2021-02-09 Thread Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers 
Hi Ray,

Which reasons do you see to keep the meeting(s)?

Thanks,
Dalai

Op ma 8 feb. 2021 om 17:46 schreef Ray Molenkamp via Bf-committers <
bf-committers@blender.org>:

> That seems somewhat strange and out of the blue (at least for me), the
> lack of reasoning for putting them on hold especially for the Tuesday ones
> you seem fond of is concerning, what am i missing here?
>
> --Ray
>
> On 2021-02-08 9:33 a.m., Dalai Felinto via Bf-committers wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The Monday (developers) and the Tuesday (modules) meetings are currently
> on
> > hold. The Monday one has very little quorum and is rarely useful.
> >
> > The Tuesday talks (module meetings) are quite a joy actually and I will
> > miss talking to the modules owners 1:1. But they have always being more
> > like a  healthy check then a permanent solution. What we need instead is
> to
> > make sure the modules are properly structured and can operate
> autonomously.
> > But this is a separate topic.
> >
> > I have a new idea on how to do the weekly communication of the ongoing
> > module and projects:
> >
> > * We keep the weekly online page in devtalk for the weekly notes [1].
> > * Developers keep adding their weekly reports there.
> > * Everyone adds relevant announcements there
> > * [new] Modules and projects then add their notes there as well,
> > asynchronously.
> > * [new] At the end of Mondays I do a final pass in the page and post it
> > here.
> >
> > [1] - https://devtalk.blender.org/t/15-february-2021-upcoming/17475.
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -Dalai-
> > 
> > Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
> > Blender Development Coordinator
> > Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands
> > ___
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-- 

-Dalai-

Dalai Felinto - da...@blender.org - www.blender.org
Blender Development Coordinator
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