Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:50 AM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean we still support MSVC2012? If you build all the libs blender still compiles with this as far as I am aware Does it use the same libs as MSVC2013? No ABI is not the same Seems we already dropped 2008. http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2014-June/043807.html https://developer.blender.org/D715 Yes, thx for finding that.. that is what i referred to when saying I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC However its not great to have to trawl old messages to know about supported compilers. Yes, that is my fault. I will look at wiki. Added a section in the wiki for this (OSX needs versions filled in) http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Building_Blender#Compiler_Versions I think we should also consider dropping GCC 4.2 on apple as it would quality as the lowest common denominator and Apple seems to peruse a pretty aggressive upgrade campaign with OS X yearly releases. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Campbell, I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC 's not sure if 2008 still builds. I think of all pre 2012 versions as ancient and to broken to want to support. Whole reason for doing MSVC 2013 work was to move up the lowest common denominator for everyone. I would like to propose officially abandoning 2005, 2008, 2010 versions of MSVC. Martijn Does this mean we still support MSVC2012? Does it use the same libs as MSVC2013? Seems we already dropped 2008. http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2014-June/043807.html https://developer.blender.org/D715 However its not great to have to trawl old messages to know about supported compilers. Added a section in the wiki for this (OSX needs versions filled in) http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Dev:Doc/Building_Blender#Compiler_Versions ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
From what I recall of that time period, MSVC 2010 was dropped because support was never fully developed. Development favored 2013. Now that we've got 2013 established, I see no reason to go backwards. I don't remember if there were particular advantages in 2010 versus 2008. On 06/20/2015 09:18 AM, Jambay wrote: not to stir things up but would think MSVC 2010 is still valid; older versions, agreed. But then I'm out of date on a lot of source for my system. If it goes away won't affect me until I get into builds. - Original Message - From: Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com To: bf-blender developers bf-committers@blender.org Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported? Hi Campbell, I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC 's not sure if 2008 still builds. I think of all pre 2012 versions as ancient and to broken to want to support. Whole reason for doing MSVC 2013 work was to move up the lowest common denominator for everyone. I would like to propose officially abandoning 2005, 2008, 2010 versions of MSVC. Martijn On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was under the impression MSVC2008 was dropped (committed removal of some MSVC version checks). But looks like there wasn't official decision here? Is the intention to keep supporting MSVC2008? Is anyone using it for development? -- - Campbell ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers -- Jeffrey Italic_ Hoover ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
not to stir things up but would think MSVC 2010 is still valid; older versions, agreed. But then I'm out of date on a lot of source for my system. If it goes away won't affect me until I get into builds. - Original Message - From: Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com To: bf-blender developers bf-committers@blender.org Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported? Hi Campbell, I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC 's not sure if 2008 still builds. I think of all pre 2012 versions as ancient and to broken to want to support. Whole reason for doing MSVC 2013 work was to move up the lowest common denominator for everyone. I would like to propose officially abandoning 2005, 2008, 2010 versions of MSVC. Martijn On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was under the impression MSVC2008 was dropped (committed removal of some MSVC version checks). But looks like there wasn't official decision here? Is the intention to keep supporting MSVC2008? Is anyone using it for development? -- - Campbell ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
Hi Campbell, I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC 's not sure if 2008 still builds. I think of all pre 2012 versions as ancient and to broken to want to support. Whole reason for doing MSVC 2013 work was to move up the lowest common denominator for everyone. I would like to propose officially abandoning 2005, 2008, 2010 versions of MSVC. Martijn On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was under the impression MSVC2008 was dropped (committed removal of some MSVC version checks). But looks like there wasn't official decision here? Is the intention to keep supporting MSVC2008? Is anyone using it for development? -- - Campbell ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported?
k, like I said, my stuff is out of date was thinking 2010 was min but you are correct, wasn't well done. if 2013 is base, I'm fine with that, thx for reply/info. - Original Message - From: Jeffrey italic.rendezv...@gmail.com To: bf-blender developers bf-committers@blender.org Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported? From what I recall of that time period, MSVC 2010 was dropped because support was never fully developed. Development favored 2013. Now that we've got 2013 established, I see no reason to go backwards. I don't remember if there were particular advantages in 2010 versus 2008. On 06/20/2015 09:18 AM, Jambay wrote: not to stir things up but would think MSVC 2010 is still valid; older versions, agreed. But then I'm out of date on a lot of source for my system. If it goes away won't affect me until I get into builds. - Original Message - From: Martijn Berger martijn.ber...@gmail.com To: bf-blender developers bf-committers@blender.org Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Is MSVC2008 still to be supported? Hi Campbell, I think some people actually started cleaning up work-arounds for ancient MSVC 's not sure if 2008 still builds. I think of all pre 2012 versions as ancient and to broken to want to support. Whole reason for doing MSVC 2013 work was to move up the lowest common denominator for everyone. I would like to propose officially abandoning 2005, 2008, 2010 versions of MSVC. Martijn On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Campbell Barton ideasma...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I was under the impression MSVC2008 was dropped (committed removal of some MSVC version checks). But looks like there wasn't official decision here? Is the intention to keep supporting MSVC2008? Is anyone using it for development? -- - Campbell ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers -- Jeffrey Italic_ Hoover ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers