Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
Hi, rogerwic...@yahoo.com (2010-02-09 at 1936.00 -0800): > interesting. what takes my time (and vertical space) is scrolling > thru expanded panels, and i find myself constantly collapsing > them. If I were allowed to request a feature, it would be a hotkey > to collapse all panels within a context. Invoked as a hotkey, the > Home key perhaps, since home in the image editor and sequencer scale > the contents to fit within the viewable area. As an icon, perhaps > the same little circled + thing used in the outliner window to > expand/collapse, placed next to the pushpin on the context header, > to expand/collapse all. To me, finding the panel/option you want is > all variations on a collapsable menu strategy, like the outliner or > menu/submenu lookups. I had a hack to experiment with that concept. Press number keys, and panels open or close. Call it visibility for panels, like in 3d view layers, or panel accelerators, like in menus. Anybody interested in testing the idea can try how it feels now. Known issues are that reordering does not changes the keys and that position of mouse is important (focus collision with buttons). If anybody is interested in doing it better, go ahead. http://www.infernal-iceberg.com/blender/number-shortcuts-for-panels-20091203b.diff GSR ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
I don't mind scrolling at all. What gets me is that I have to shift-space out of my beautiful full-screen modelling window to toggle wireframes on separate objects, or to toggle X-Ray, or a host of other things. I think it'd be lovely to have those configurable pie menus so I can set up the workflow for full-screen modeling and not have to drop into the Properties window until I'm through with modelling. Ctrl+1 -> Mouse to the top -> done. Not that your collapse-all panel key wouldn't be welcome. I can see myself using that too, come surfacing time. ~ C On 2010-02-09, at 10:36 PM, Roger Wickes wrote: > interesting. what takes my time (and vertical space) is scrolling thru > expanded panels, and i find myself constantly collapsing them. If I were > allowed to request a feature, it would be a hotkey to collapse all panels > within a context. Invoked as a hotkey, the Home key perhaps, since home in > the image editor and sequencer scale the contents to fit within the viewable > area. As an icon, perhaps the same little circled + thing used in the > outliner window to expand/collapse, placed next to the pushpin on the context > header, to expand/collapse all. To me, finding the panel/option you want is > all variations on a collapsable menu strategy, like the outliner or > menu/submenu lookups. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
interesting. what takes my time (and vertical space) is scrolling thru expanded panels, and i find myself constantly collapsing them. If I were allowed to request a feature, it would be a hotkey to collapse all panels within a context. Invoked as a hotkey, the Home key perhaps, since home in the image editor and sequencer scale the contents to fit within the viewable area. As an icon, perhaps the same little circled + thing used in the outliner window to expand/collapse, placed next to the pushpin on the context header, to expand/collapse all. To me, finding the panel/option you want is all variations on a collapsable menu strategy, like the outliner or menu/submenu lookups. With the horizontal layout, and the lesser number of panels, categorized into context-subcontext hierarchy, most panels could remain expanded and viewable without scrolling. Now, with a flat set of contexts and many more panels, this does indeed become an issue. From: joe To: bf-blender developers Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 10:04:37 PM Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu Can we *please* get a vertical layout of the header as well? Joe On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Tom M wrote: > Matt and others, on IRC we were discussing how slow and workflow > disrupting it is to move to the vertical panel layout and then scroll > to the option you want to tweak. > > It was suggested that a hotkey combo bringing up a pie menu of the > current available panels would be a lot faster, and would eliminate > the need to scroll, similar to how the F6 key after an operator brings > up the tweak operator menu. > > LetterRip > ___ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
Can we *please* get a vertical layout of the header as well? Joe On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Tom M wrote: > Matt and others, on IRC we were discussing how slow and workflow > disrupting it is to move to the vertical panel layout and then scroll > to the option you want to tweak. > > It was suggested that a hotkey combo bringing up a pie menu of the > current available panels would be a lot faster, and would eliminate > the need to scroll, similar to how the F6 key after an operator brings > up the tweak operator menu. > > LetterRip > ___ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
Yo, back on Tuesday 09 February 2010 Charles Wardlaw was all like: > I really like the idea of it popping up a panel like the F6 key, > although the same pie menu in the Properties area could scroll to the > requested panel instead. > > I would *kill* for the ability to customize pie menus by creating > custom classes for them. Would be nice to have one pie menu that is a generic tools menu that a user can customize with custom "tool-sets", and a separate pie menu that is context specific and expandable via python. -Reuben ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
Now that I'm using 2.5 at home, I've been thinking about pie menus a lot. I find in Modo and Maya, for certain things they're great for workflow. I like how in Modo the main ones are triggered by holding down a keyboard combination, as opposed to Maya's right-click-and-hold method (which I feel isn't very efficient). Modo's visual feedback (a little arrow that spins with your mouse combined with highlighting the buttons) is also very good. Right now I'm creating operators with specific prefixes and using space to search for them, but that's not optimal. I really like the idea of it popping up a panel like the F6 key, although the same pie menu in the Properties area could scroll to the requested panel instead. I would *kill* for the ability to customize pie menus by creating custom classes for them. ~ C On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Tom M wrote: > Matt and others, on IRC we were discussing how slow and workflow > disrupting it is to move to the vertical panel layout and then scroll > to the option you want to tweak. > > It was suggested that a hotkey combo bringing up a pie menu of the > current available panels would be a lot faster, and would eliminate > the need to scroll, similar to how the F6 key after an operator brings > up the tweak operator menu. > > LetterRip > ___ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
[Bf-committers] faster usage of panels via pie menu
Matt and others, on IRC we were discussing how slow and workflow disrupting it is to move to the vertical panel layout and then scroll to the option you want to tweak. It was suggested that a hotkey combo bringing up a pie menu of the current available panels would be a lot faster, and would eliminate the need to scroll, similar to how the F6 key after an operator brings up the tweak operator menu. LetterRip ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
