Re: [Bf-committers] CMake version bump for blender2.8
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dalai Felinto wrote: > A small update here, to build cmake is really straightforward. I got > Blender 2.8 to build in 14.04 with no further complications. > So if we rule this Ubuntu as an too-old to maintain OS, it's all good, > and my original email can just be ignored. Their per-compiled binaries worked well too last I checked. >> Switching to CMake 3.x would be nice since (...) > > Blender 2.8 switched for it already. Right, I should have said switched *master* - changing lib linking touches nearly all cmake files, I'd rather not cause unnecessary conflicts. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] CMake version bump for blender2.8
A small update here, to build cmake is really straightforward. I got Blender 2.8 to build in 14.04 with no further complications. So if we rule this Ubuntu as an too-old to maintain OS, it's all good, and my original email can just be ignored. > Switching to CMake 3.x would be nice since (...) Blender 2.8 switched for it already. ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] CMake version bump for blender2.8
From memory, rule of thumb for Linux support has been to compile on latest releases of major (top ~5 so) Linux distors. Supporting the latest Ubuntu LTS is nice too. Switching to CMake 3.x would be nice since it allows us to remove the dreaded "BLENDER_SORTED_LIBS". On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Dalai Felinto wrote: > Hi, > > Ubuntu 14.04 is "stuck" with CMake 2.8. It's a LTS so they won't > upgrade their CMake. And it's still quite inside our 5 year support > goal. > What exactly do we need from CMake 3.x? If we really need CMake 3.0, > can we at least update install_deps.sh to handle cmake as well? > > Regards, > Dalai > -- > blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto > www.dalaifelinto.com > > > 2017-08-20 17:02 GMT+02:00 Jörg Müller : >> Hi everyone, >> >> a discussion about our cmake version has started after I merged audaspace >> into blender2.8. Audaspace requires cmake 3.0 as opposed to blender's main >> cmake file which so far requires cmake 2.8. >> >> Now since a version bump has been in discussion already a year ago according >> to Campbell, we think this is a good time to actually do it. Last time it >> was postponed because Debian was not ready. So now I had a look at the >> current versions of cmake in the major distributions [1]: >> >> ubuntu (17.04) - 3.7.2 >> ubuntu LTS (16.04) - 3.5.1 >> debian (stable) - 3.7.2 >> opensuse (42.3) - 3.5.2 >> fedora (F26) - 3.8.2 >> pclinuxos - 3.7.2 >> centos (6) - 2.8.12 (3.6.1 in EPEL) >> arch - 3.8.2 >> mageia (6) - 3.7.2 >> slackware (14.2) - 3.5.2 >> gentoo - 3.7.2 >> >> According to this list, pretty much everyone should be able to get at least >> cmake 3.5 running. Therefore, I bumped the cmake version to 3.5 which allows >> us to use newer cmake features now. >> >> Cheers, >> Jörg >> >> [1] https://pkgs.org/download/cmake >> >> ___ >> Bf-committers mailing list >> Bf-committers@blender.org >> https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers > ___ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers -- - Campbell ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] CMake version bump for blender2.8
Hi, I don’t see why we'd make install_deps also handle custom installation of cmake! This is turning a bit (a lot) ridiculous. CMake 3.0 is **three** years old alreay! I remember we were switching to recent versions of CMake much, much more quickly back in the days of CMake 2.8 area, as soon as we needed the update, never has been an issue then. And am pretty sure our 5 years old support is meant for hardware, not software - especially not compiling/building software! Because otherwise, you'd also might ask our current code to support 5 years old libraries… this is going pretty much nowhere. Software changes at least twice quicker than hardware. Further more, this is purely a *building* dependency, not a running one. Am starting to be a bit tired of getting stuck to years old tools, or having to handle their installation ourself (and maintain stupid script for way too much distros). Doing that for libraries is already a pain. If you do not have the basic minimal knowledge of compiling, to the point you are not even able to install modern building tools on the purposedly deprecated OS you are using, then by all means, download our builds from the buildbot! Sergey spends a lot of time ensuring those binaries work on any distro, even rather old ones. Let’s not spend more time trying to pretend building a program can be as easy as installing a binary package. So to summarize: I do not understand the issue here. Cheers, Bastien Le 31/08/2017 à 10:38, Dalai Felinto a écrit : Hi, Ubuntu 14.04 is "stuck" with CMake 2.8. It's a LTS so they won't upgrade their CMake. And it's still quite inside our 5 year support goal. What exactly do we need from CMake 3.x? If we really need CMake 3.0, can we at least update install_deps.sh to handle cmake as well? Regards, Dalai -- blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto www.dalaifelinto.com 2017-08-20 17:02 GMT+02:00 Jörg Müller : Hi everyone, a discussion about our cmake version has started after I merged audaspace into blender2.8. Audaspace requires cmake 3.0 as opposed to blender's main cmake file which so far requires cmake 2.8. Now since a version bump has been in discussion already a year ago according to Campbell, we think this is a good time to actually do it. Last time it was postponed because Debian was not ready. So now I had a look at the current versions of cmake in the major distributions [1]: ubuntu (17.04) - 3.7.2 ubuntu LTS (16.04) - 3.5.1 debian (stable) - 3.7.2 opensuse (42.3) - 3.5.2 fedora (F26) - 3.8.2 pclinuxos - 3.7.2 centos (6) - 2.8.12 (3.6.1 in EPEL) arch - 3.8.2 mageia (6) - 3.7.2 slackware (14.2) - 3.5.2 gentoo - 3.7.2 According to this list, pretty much everyone should be able to get at least cmake 3.5 running. Therefore, I bumped the cmake version to 3.5 which allows us to use newer cmake features now. Cheers, Jörg [1] https://pkgs.org/download/cmake ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
Re: [Bf-committers] CMake version bump for blender2.8
Hi, Ubuntu 14.04 is "stuck" with CMake 2.8. It's a LTS so they won't upgrade their CMake. And it's still quite inside our 5 year support goal. What exactly do we need from CMake 3.x? If we really need CMake 3.0, can we at least update install_deps.sh to handle cmake as well? Regards, Dalai -- blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto www.dalaifelinto.com 2017-08-20 17:02 GMT+02:00 Jörg Müller : > Hi everyone, > > a discussion about our cmake version has started after I merged audaspace > into blender2.8. Audaspace requires cmake 3.0 as opposed to blender's main > cmake file which so far requires cmake 2.8. > > Now since a version bump has been in discussion already a year ago according > to Campbell, we think this is a good time to actually do it. Last time it > was postponed because Debian was not ready. So now I had a look at the > current versions of cmake in the major distributions [1]: > > ubuntu (17.04) - 3.7.2 > ubuntu LTS (16.04) - 3.5.1 > debian (stable) - 3.7.2 > opensuse (42.3) - 3.5.2 > fedora (F26) - 3.8.2 > pclinuxos - 3.7.2 > centos (6) - 2.8.12 (3.6.1 in EPEL) > arch - 3.8.2 > mageia (6) - 3.7.2 > slackware (14.2) - 3.5.2 > gentoo - 3.7.2 > > According to this list, pretty much everyone should be able to get at least > cmake 3.5 running. Therefore, I bumped the cmake version to 3.5 which allows > us to use newer cmake features now. > > Cheers, > Jörg > > [1] https://pkgs.org/download/cmake > > ___ > Bf-committers mailing list > Bf-committers@blender.org > https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers ___ Bf-committers mailing list Bf-committers@blender.org https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-committers
