Re: [Bibdesk-users] [OT] Workflow for handling reference-materials
On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Jun 21, 2007, at 23:08, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: Hi! Once again I'm thinking about how to handle all my reference material. Right now I'm using Yojimbo to get all the website-stuff from the net and then there are PDFs. For handling PDFs I see at time three options: a) Using the Finder with metatags and some good file names (any suggestions for conventions) b) Using DevonThink Personal (I've got a license for it from MacZot and the other versions are just too expensive for me right now) c) Using Papers (just downloading the actual version) I would use BibDesk in all three cases because I write all my stuff with LaTeX and I think it's superior if it comes to handling bib- files. In the end all files should be in some system where I can easily find and manage them. How are you guys handling your reference-materials? I mainly have PDF files, with the odd HTML/PostScript/TIFF, all managed with BibDesk's AutoFile. They're linked to references in BibDesk, since I'd go nuts using more than one program for the same task. One plus for BibDesk: it doesn't care what file format you attach, and you can search the contents of the attached files as well as the reference metadata. You can also associate multiple files with a single reference. I didn't know that this feature exists…cool… I just found out that I could use iTunes for managing PDFs. It allows me to do a fast search on them (Genre: Papers; Artist: Author-Name; Title: Paper-name; Comments: Keywords) and they are organized in one place (iTunes-Music-library) which gets backed up regularly. I'm guessing it doesn't allow you to search by content, though? It really depends on what you need. Most of the interesting stuff is non-OCR-JSTOR-stuff anyway -- I gave up the illusion to search the content of my pdfs (and stuff in iTunes can be handled by Spotlight). Some kind of tagging and not thinking about the managing in the file-system is more important to me. Niels - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] [OT] Workflow for handling reference-materials
On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Chris Goedde wrote:
On Jun 22, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
Aaargh! I'm half convinced that people write new apps for reference/
PDF management because they don't know BibDesk can do this. How can
we advertise it more effectively? I've been using it for years, and
just assume that others use it as well.
Can you make it so that we can use it without reading any
documentation? :-).
I'm just switching to Bibdesk (from many years of using BibView under
X11), and I have some questions. Some are related to autofile, some
are more general.
1) Right now I keep my files in several bibliography file, but I've
been thinking of combining them into a single bib file. (This would
mean assigning them keywords to be able to sort them, I think.)
Recommendations? Pros/cons?
2) Bibdesk keeps all the pdfs in a single folder, correct? Is it
possible to have a separate location for each bib file (question, not
feature request). I ask because of 1) above; I'm not sure I want to
mix all my pdfs if I continue to use separate bib files.
You can change it that it creates different folders in a sub-folder
3) Can Bibdesk rename the pdfs when it moves/links them? For example,
I would like to have all my pdfs named CiteKey.pdf. Is that possible?
(This is a feature request.)
Yp - just play around with Preferences - Autofile - Local URL-Format
I use now: %a1/%Y/%T5 %f{Cite Key}%e (can be easily modified through
menus in the preference)
Which gives something like: archive-folder/author/year/title cite-
key.pdf
4) I can apparently customize the local-url. Why would I want to do
that?
See the above
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[Bibdesk-users] Anyone interested in adding to the Wikipedia entry?
Hi, if anyone on the list is an avid Wikipedian, you might want to note that BibDesk is missing from the Wikipedia page on reference managers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software I'm not familiar with the processes of adding to pages like that, but if you are, why not add BibDesk? Cheers, -mike - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] [OT] Workflow for handling reference-materials
On Jun 22, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Friday, June 22, 2007, at 09:01AM, Niels Kobschätzki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Jun 22, 2007, at 08:26, Niels Kobschätzki wrote: I didn't know that this feature exists…cool… Aaargh! I'm half convinced that people write new apps for reference/ PDF management because they don't know BibDesk can do this. How can we advertise it more effectively? I've been using it for years, and just assume that others use it as well. How about building the web-site a way that it propagates the most important/interesting features. I think about shorter texts with more highlights (e.g. bold letters than 'text'). Me not understand HTML (and engineers make bad web designers, anyway)! I'd be happy to give shell access to anyone who wants to take a shot at revamping things. Most of the manual style content should be moved to the wiki, I think (the entire manual is online now, anyway), and the home page should be more feature/ description oriented. I can think about some stuff - some static HTML-pages should do it. But it would take some time because of other involvements right now. Maybe there should be some brainstorming what the most interesting parts of BibDesk are which users should know about. Big maybe as well: maybe there should be some merged page about Skim and BibDesk because I guess that a lot of ppl here are using both and at least the notes-part is available in both (could be a feature-to- mention as well) E.g. propagating auto-file through software: Activate it automatically and give a warning window which can be switched off (don't show this window again) or add some kind of assistant which will give you the opportunity to switch features like this on or off when you first start the program (and give the user the ability to start it later again) I think the problem is that people don't even know you can add files, though, so this wouldn't even make it discoverable. What do our newer users think? With an assistant that let's you know about this feature you would know ;) The same when you drew a file to the local-URL-field (I found that rather fast) and auto-filing would be enabled per default and a dialogue when you use it the first time (until you switch off the dialogue) Btw. I just searched 5 minutes for the auto-consolidate-command (I expected it in File or in Database -- in the help it isn't mentioned where it is. The help should mention those stuff . Instead of Choose this command to scan all selected publications in the file for linked files. A dialog will be opened that asks you for some options. You can find it in., it would be better to have a sentence like this Choose auto-consolidate (Publication-Auto-Consolidate) to scan all selected publications in the file for linked files. A dialog will be opened that asks you for some options. Please file bug reports on the online help when you find that it's not adequate. Better yet, anyone who wants to improve it can have commit access (I assume Mike and Christiaan agree to that :). The help book is written in GNU Texinfo, which is pretty easy to write. Here's the same as for the html-stuff - I had to write FAQ-stuff for a webhoster and for the IT-department of one of the faculties of the university where I study. But I would need some native who has a look over the texts (same for html) because I'm native German ;) snip When you do a search on your database, there's an option for File Content. It indexes all attached files with Search Kit (closing the document will lose the index, sadly, but it's very fast as long as the index is in memory). I found the File Content-option after to get to know that you can search file content ;) Niels - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] [OT] Workflow for handling reference-materials
On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Alex Hamann wrote:
Am 22.06.2007 um 17:03 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:
How are you guys handling your reference-materials?
*snip
I mainly have PDF files, with the odd HTML/PostScript/TIFF, all
managed with BibDesk's AutoFile. They're linked to references in
BibDesk, since I'd go nuts using more than one program for the same
task. One plus for BibDesk: it doesn't care what file format you
attach, and you can search the contents of the attached files as well
as the reference metadata. You can also associate multiple files
with
a single reference.
follow up question here since I was not aware of this last option: Is
there a way of using AutoFile with associating multiple files with a
singel reference? If so, is there a special way I should modify my
current AutoFile
this is my current format string:
%b/%p1/%f{Cite Key}%e
Alex
Option 1: Put multiple files in a folder, drop the folder onto Local-
URL. The folder will be renamed, the contents won't.
Option 2: Create multiple fields of type local-url, drop each file
onto each separate field.
-AHM
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [OT] Workflow for handling reference-materials
Am 22.06.2007 um 19:37 schrieb Alexander H. Montgomery:
On Jun 22, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Alex Hamann wrote:
Am 22.06.2007 um 17:03 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:
How are you guys handling your reference-materials?
*snip
I mainly have PDF files, with the odd HTML/PostScript/TIFF, all
managed with BibDesk's AutoFile. They're linked to references in
BibDesk, since I'd go nuts using more than one program for the same
task. One plus for BibDesk: it doesn't care what file format you
attach, and you can search the contents of the attached files as
well
as the reference metadata. You can also associate multiple files
with
a single reference.
follow up question here since I was not aware of this last option: Is
there a way of using AutoFile with associating multiple files with a
singel reference? If so, is there a special way I should modify my
current AutoFile
this is my current format string:
%b/%p1/%f{Cite Key}%e
Alex
Option 1: Put multiple files in a folder, drop the folder onto Local-
URL. The folder will be renamed, the contents won't.
Option 2: Create multiple fields of type local-url, drop each file
onto each separate field.
-AHM
Thanks, I suspected something like this. Good to get confirmation,
though ;-)
Alex
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