Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....
On Jun 20, 2008, at 2:39 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > The Bookends settings for z39.50 work seamlessly. In Bookends, it is > revealed that my institution accesses z39.50 connections indirectly, > that is, > > via a LOC gateway (not visible what that setting is), and then to the > respective database to be searched. > > Also i need to enter my user id and password for each database in > their respective filter and, BibDesk has settings for all of these when you configure a z39.50 search group (I suspect LoC gateway is the hostname of the server). > insert my institutions student id and password in Bookends > Preferences, and tick Proxy server authentication. BibDesk does not support username/password for proxies. Are you dealing with an EZProxy, or is this a general proxy for network access? If the latter, can you set it up in the system's Network preferences? Without further info it's really impossible to do anything. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....
On 20 Jun 2008, at 11:22 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > Thanks for the reply, > > I'll check wiki, however, you havent told; "1. save a search group as > a .bdsksearch file (use drag & drop)" Is not clear. It should be, because drag & drop is very common on the Mac. You use it to move an item from one place and add it to another. Now if you think what you want to get and where you want to have it, it should be clear to you from where you should drag and where to drop it (if it's not immediately clear you should just try). BD uses drag & drop in many places, it's really worth just trying it in various locations. Christiaan > > > Anyway, time, motivation etc. is limited, and its freeware, yes i > understand. > > Shango > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Christiaan Hofman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On 20 Jun 2008, at 8:39 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: >> >>> The Bookends settings for z39.50 work seamlessly. In Bookends, it is >>> revealed that my institution accesses z39.50 connections indirectly, >>> that is, >>> >>> via a LOC gateway (not visible what that setting is), and then to >>> the >>> respective database to be searched. >>> >>> Also i need to enter my user id and password for each database in >>> their respective filter and, >>> >>> insert my institutions student id and password in Bookends >>> Preferences, and tick Proxy server authentication. >>> >> >> Not very helpful, as we can't see how Bookends does it, since it's >> not >> open source. I'm certainly not going to try and figure out myself how >> to do it for many reasons, three important ones are time, motivation >> and the fact that I can't test it. >> >> Be aware that Bookends is expensive and BibDesk is free. >> >>> How to edit the script in search groups, such as LOC? It is not >>> clear >>> to me, for example, how to access the bibdesk LOC script to save >>> in >>> ' .bdsksearch' format, >> >> That's described on the Wiki. And I told you. >> >>> and then edit to include similar functionality >>> as in the Bookends options. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Shane >>> >> >> I just told you, I think. As I said, I cannot test it. >> >> Christiaan >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess your local firewall does not allow traffic through the ports used by z39.50 (like 7090 for LOC). If you can't control the firewall (or ask for ports like these to be opened) you may have to use your proxy. BD has no UI to set a proxy, but you can set it by hand. 1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag & drop) 2. edit the .bdsksearch file with a plain text editor (such as TextEdit), add 2 lines to the options dict of the form: proxy YOUR PROXY HERE e.g. for LOC you'd get some lines like: options proxy YOUR PROXY HERE recordSyntax US MARC resultEncoding marc-8 3. save the file, and drop it on a BD window I've never tried it myself, so I can't say if it works. Christiaan On 19 Jun 2008, at 1:59 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > No, I cant connect to LOC. with z39.50. But url bookmarks, i.e LOC > is fine. > > > Shane. > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Adam R. Maxwell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: >> >>> On Bibdesk Version 1.3.12 (v940) , I can not connect using >>> z39.50 >>> bookmark connections. URL bookmarks, however work fine. >> >> 1.3.12 is pretty old. Why are you using it? >> >>> My uni has proxy server settings. I am not sure what the problem >>> really is. >> >> Can you connect to Library of Congress via z39.50? It doesn't >> require >> a proxy. >> >> - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>> >>> - >>> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >>> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >>> just about anything Open Source. >>> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >>> ___ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> >> >> -
Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....
Thanks for the reply, I'll check wiki, however, you havent told; "1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag & drop)" Is not clear. Anyway, time, motivation etc. is limited, and its freeware, yes i understand. Shango On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 20 Jun 2008, at 8:39 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > >> The Bookends settings for z39.50 work seamlessly. In Bookends, it is >> revealed that my institution accesses z39.50 connections indirectly, >> that is, >> >> via a LOC gateway (not visible what that setting is), and then to the >> respective database to be searched. >> >> Also i need to enter my user id and password for each database in >> their respective filter and, >> >> insert my institutions student id and password in Bookends >> Preferences, and tick Proxy server authentication. >> > > Not very helpful, as we can't see how Bookends does it, since it's not > open source. I'm certainly not going to try and figure out myself how > to do it for many reasons, three important ones are time, motivation > and the fact that I can't test it. > > Be aware that Bookends is expensive and BibDesk is free. > >> How to edit the script in search groups, such as LOC? It is not clear >> to me, for example, how to access the bibdesk LOC script to save in >> ' .bdsksearch' format, > > That's described on the Wiki. And I told you. > >> and then edit to include similar functionality >> as in the Bookends options. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Shane >> > > I just told you, I think. As I said, I cannot test it. > > Christiaan > > >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >>> I guess your local firewall does not allow traffic through the ports >>> used by z39.50 (like 7090 for LOC). If you can't control the firewall >>> (or ask for ports like these to be opened) you may have to use your >>> proxy. BD has no UI to set a proxy, but you can set it by hand. >>> >>> 1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag & drop) >>> 2. edit the .bdsksearch file with a plain text editor (such as >>> TextEdit), add 2 lines to the options dict of the form: >>> >>> proxy >>> YOUR PROXY HERE >>> >>> e.g. for LOC you'd get some lines like: >>> >>> options >>> >>> proxy >>> YOUR PROXY HERE >>> recordSyntax >>> US MARC >>> resultEncoding >>> marc-8 >>> >>> >>> 3. save the file, and drop it on a BD window >>> >>> I've never tried it myself, so I can't say if it works. >>> >>> Christiaan >>> >>> On 19 Jun 2008, at 1:59 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote: >>> No, I cant connect to LOC. with z39.50. But url bookmarks, i.e LOC is fine. Shane. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > >> On Bibdesk Version 1.3.12 (v940) , I can not connect using z39.50 >> bookmark connections. URL bookmarks, however work fine. > > 1.3.12 is pretty old. Why are you using it? > >> My uni has proxy server settings. I am not sure what the problem >> really is. > > Can you connect to Library of Congress via z39.50? It doesn't > require > a proxy. > > >>> >>> >>> - >>> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >>> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >>> just about anything Open Source. >>> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >>> ___ >>> Bibdesk-users mailing list >>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >>> >> >> - >> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >> just about anything Open Source. >> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >> ___ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > > > - > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users > - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php _
Re: [Bibdesk-users] search group z39.5 connections not working, urls are fine....
On 20 Jun 2008, at 8:39 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > The Bookends settings for z39.50 work seamlessly. In Bookends, it is > revealed that my institution accesses z39.50 connections indirectly, > that is, > > via a LOC gateway (not visible what that setting is), and then to the > respective database to be searched. > > Also i need to enter my user id and password for each database in > their respective filter and, > > insert my institutions student id and password in Bookends > Preferences, and tick Proxy server authentication. > Not very helpful, as we can't see how Bookends does it, since it's not open source. I'm certainly not going to try and figure out myself how to do it for many reasons, three important ones are time, motivation and the fact that I can't test it. Be aware that Bookends is expensive and BibDesk is free. > How to edit the script in search groups, such as LOC? It is not clear > to me, for example, how to access the bibdesk LOC script to save in > ' .bdsksearch' format, That's described on the Wiki. And I told you. > and then edit to include similar functionality > as in the Bookends options. > > Sincerely, > > Shane > I just told you, I think. As I said, I cannot test it. Christiaan > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: >> I guess your local firewall does not allow traffic through the ports >> used by z39.50 (like 7090 for LOC). If you can't control the firewall >> (or ask for ports like these to be opened) you may have to use your >> proxy. BD has no UI to set a proxy, but you can set it by hand. >> >> 1. save a search group as a .bdsksearch file (use drag & drop) >> 2. edit the .bdsksearch file with a plain text editor (such as >> TextEdit), add 2 lines to the options dict of the form: >> >> proxy >> YOUR PROXY HERE >> >> e.g. for LOC you'd get some lines like: >> >> options >> >> proxy >> YOUR PROXY HERE >> recordSyntax >> US MARC >> resultEncoding >> marc-8 >> >> >> 3. save the file, and drop it on a BD window >> >> I've never tried it myself, so I can't say if it works. >> >> Christiaan >> >> On 19 Jun 2008, at 1:59 PM, Shane Eastwood wrote: >> >>> No, I cant connect to LOC. with z39.50. But url bookmarks, i.e LOC >>> is fine. >>> >>> >>> Shane. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Adam R. Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: On Jun 19, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Shane Eastwood wrote: > On Bibdesk Version 1.3.12 (v940) , I can not connect using z39.50 > bookmark connections. URL bookmarks, however work fine. 1.3.12 is pretty old. Why are you using it? > My uni has proxy server settings. I am not sure what the problem > really is. Can you connect to Library of Congress via z39.50? It doesn't require a proxy. >> >> >> - >> Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> It's the best place to buy or sell services for >> just about anything Open Source. >> http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php >> ___ >> Bibdesk-users mailing list >> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users >> > > - > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > ___ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
