Re: [Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Christiaan Hofman]

Also there keywords is just one of many fields. There won’t be a special 
specific one for Keywords, but you can add one. As one choice.

And note that you can also use Keywords field groups.

Christiaan

> On 12 Sep 2021, at 17:53, Roberto  wrote:
> 
> I get it. In the context of database search the autocompletion is not a good 
> fit. What I had in mind was a keyword oriented search feature, as per my 
> initial question, where autocompletion would make sense. Groups, even smart 
> ones, are a good way to organize the file, but sometimes I really miss the 
> opportunity to exploit more keywords. Any plan to strenghten the organization 
> of the papers with any autocompletion or suggestions for the classification 
> of paper?
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 5:46 PM Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> Not for the search query. That would not be useful, as it is not specific, it 
> can be just any field.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 12 Sep 2021, at 17:28, Roberto > > wrote:
>> 
>> I see. Thanks a lot for flagging these options. I had tried only the search 
>> box and not the Find and Replace menu. 
>> 
>> What I was trying to get to is a keyword based search, which Find and 
>> Replace can do nicely. I do not see any suggestions or autocompletion for 
>> the search query. I find this is very useful (e.g. in Zotero tags search). 
>> Is there any way to get autocompletion or completion suggestions for 
>> keywords in bibdesk?
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:51 PM Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12 Sep 2021, at 16:36, Roberto >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ... Is 
>>> there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?
>> 
>> You can always use Database Find and Replace to find instances in arbitrary 
>> fields. 
>> 
>> You can also use smart groups, which allows you to filter with a very broad 
>> range of conditions.
>> 
>> In the newest release, you can now also add custom fields to filter for the 
>> quick search from the toolbar (hit the “+” button after the search buttons 
>> the search bar).  
>> 
>> Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Roberto]

I get it. In the context of database search the autocompletion is not a
good fit. What I had in mind was a keyword oriented search feature, as per
my initial question, where autocompletion would make sense. Groups, even
smart ones, are a good way to organize the file, but sometimes I really
miss the opportunity to exploit more keywords. Any plan to strenghten the
organization of the papers with any autocompletion or suggestions for the
classification of paper?

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 5:46 PM Christiaan Hofman 
wrote:

> Not for the search query. That would not be useful, as it is not specific,
> it can be just any field.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On 12 Sep 2021, at 17:28, Roberto  wrote:
>
> I see. Thanks a lot for flagging these options. I had tried only the
> search box and not the Find and Replace menu.
>
> What I was trying to get to is a keyword based search, which Find and
> Replace can do nicely. I do not see any suggestions or autocompletion for
> the search query. I find this is very useful (e.g. in Zotero tags search).
> Is there any way to get autocompletion or completion suggestions for
> keywords in bibdesk?
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:51 PM Christiaan Hofman 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12 Sep 2021, at 16:36, Roberto  wrote:
>>
>> I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ...
>> Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?
>>
>>
>> You can always use Database Find and Replace to find instances in
>> arbitrary fields.
>>
>> You can also use smart groups, which allows you to filter with a very
>> broad range of conditions.
>>
>> In the newest release, you can now also add custom fields to filter for
>> the quick search from the toolbar (hit the “+” button after the search
>> buttons the search bar).
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Christiaan Hofman]

Not for the search query. That would not be useful, as it is not specific, it 
can be just any field.

Christiaan

> On 12 Sep 2021, at 17:28, Roberto  wrote:
> 
> I see. Thanks a lot for flagging these options. I had tried only the search 
> box and not the Find and Replace menu. 
> 
> What I was trying to get to is a keyword based search, which Find and Replace 
> can do nicely. I do not see any suggestions or autocompletion for the search 
> query. I find this is very useful (e.g. in Zotero tags search). Is there any 
> way to get autocompletion or completion suggestions for keywords in bibdesk?
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:51 PM Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 12 Sep 2021, at 16:36, Roberto > > wrote:
>> 
>> I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ... Is 
>> there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?
> 
> You can always use Database Find and Replace to find instances in arbitrary 
> fields. 
> 
> You can also use smart groups, which allows you to filter with a very broad 
> range of conditions.
> 
> In the newest release, you can now also add custom fields to filter for the 
> quick search from the toolbar (hit the “+” button after the search buttons 
> the search bar).  
> 
> Christiaan

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Roberto]

I see. Thanks a lot for flagging these options. I had tried only the search
box and not the Find and Replace menu.

What I was trying to get to is a keyword based search, which Find and
Replace can do nicely. I do not see any suggestions or autocompletion for
the search query. I find this is very useful (e.g. in Zotero tags search).
Is there any way to get autocompletion or completion suggestions for
keywords in bibdesk?

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 4:51 PM Christiaan Hofman 
wrote:

>
>
> On 12 Sep 2021, at 16:36, Roberto  wrote:
>
> I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ...
> Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?
>
>
> You can always use Database Find and Replace to find instances in
> arbitrary fields.
>
> You can also use smart groups, which allows you to filter with a very
> broad range of conditions.
>
> In the newest release, you can now also add custom fields to filter for
> the quick search from the toolbar (hit the “+” button after the search
> buttons the search bar).
>
> Christiaan
>
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Christiaan Hofman]

> On 12 Sep 2021, at 16:36, Roberto  wrote:
> 
> I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ... Is 
> there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

You can always use Database Find and Replace to find instances in arbitrary 
fields. 

You can also use smart groups, which allows you to filter with a very broad 
range of conditions.

In the newest release, you can now also add custom fields to filter for the 
quick search from the toolbar (hit the “+” button after the search buttons the 
search bar).  

Christiaan

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[Bibdesk-users] Is there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?

[Roberto]

I think keywords can be made more useful in Bibdesk. So I was asking ... Is
there any feature to search within keywords and only in keywords?
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

For me on Big Sur and a 100 entry BIB file it works without hassle.

Preview has always been slowish, but that is because I use lualatex. If preview 
speed were really important, I would edit the Preferences to make sure that 
pdflatex is used. That did speed up things for me some, but I could not be 
bothered.

In that context I also find it helpful to edit the template so as to not have 
margins on top and bottom, and very little on the sides, so the preview appears 
as one page :-)-O

el

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On 12. Sep 2021, 16:12 +0200, Christiaan Hofman , wrote:
That’s good news! At least I now know what the problem is and how to 
work around it, even though the system should not need working around very 
basic system operations.

As for the tex preview, that just takes as long as it takes by tex, that’s 
mostly out of our hands.

Christiaan

On 12 Sep 2021, at 04:58, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:

It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but 
that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about  
that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires a 
couple edits to the template.

-NAP
-
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

[Christiaan Hofman]

That’s good news! At least I now know what the problem is and how to work 
around it, even though the system should not need working around very basic 
system operations.

As for the tex preview, that just takes as long as it takes by tex, that’s 
mostly out of our hands.

Christiaan

> On 12 Sep 2021, at 04:58, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:
> 
>   It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but 
> that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about  
> that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires 
> a couple edits to the template.
> 
> -NAP
> -
> Nathan Paxton
> napax...@gmail.com 
> 
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark 
> to read.
>   —Mark Twain
> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 1:02 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Did anyone try the latest test version at 
>> > >? It could give me some idea 
>> about what the problems and how to possibly fix it.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s linked to on the web site.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton >>> > wrote:
 
 Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, 
 until I’m ready to go to OS 11?
 
 -Nathan Paxton
 
 Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from 
 my iPhone"
 
> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes 
> it very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep 
> inside Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
>> Big Sur (11.5.2)?
>> —G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, 
>>> and I get ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>>> 
>>> I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was 
>>> no Spin Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>>> 
>>> -N
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Nathan Paxton
>>> napax...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's 
>>> too dark to read.
>>> —Mark Twain
>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 I have uploaded a test version to 
 >. Perhaps you can 
 download it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit 
 more efficiently.
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R.  > wrote:
> 
> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the 
> entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I 
> opened the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from 
> every entry, and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to 
> open (53 entries) and overall navigation in the system seems a bit 
> sluggish, but I can see all the entries.
> 
> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM 
> and CPU ramp up.
> 
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> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of 
>> groups.  
>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default 
>> bib file it hangs.  
>> 
>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty 
>> file first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>> I’ve