Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-12 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
For me on Big Sur and a 100 entry BIB file it works without hassle.

Preview has always been slowish, but that is because I use lualatex. If preview 
speed were really important, I would edit the Preferences to make sure that 
pdflatex is used. That did speed up things for me some, but I could not be 
bothered.

In that context I also find it helpful to edit the template so as to not have 
margins on top and bottom, and very little on the sides, so the preview appears 
as one page :-)-O

el

—
Sent from Dr Lisse’s iPhone
On 12. Sep 2021, 16:12 +0200, Christiaan Hofman , wrote:
That’s good news! At least I now know what the problem is and how to 
work around it, even though the system should not need working around very 
basic system operations.

As for the tex preview, that just takes as long as it takes by tex, that’s 
mostly out of our hands.

Christiaan

On 12 Sep 2021, at 04:58, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:

It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but 
that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about  
that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires a 
couple edits to the template.

-NAP
-
Nathan Paxton
napax...@gmail.com

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-12 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
That’s good news! At least I now know what the problem is and how to work 
around it, even though the system should not need working around very basic 
system operations.

As for the tex preview, that just takes as long as it takes by tex, that’s 
mostly out of our hands.

Christiaan

> On 12 Sep 2021, at 04:58, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:
> 
>   It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but 
> that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about  
> that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires 
> a couple edits to the template.
> 
> -NAP
> -
> Nathan Paxton
> napax...@gmail.com 
> 
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark 
> to read.
>   —Mark Twain
> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 1:02 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Did anyone try the latest test version at 
>> > >? It could give me some idea 
>> about what the problems and how to possibly fix it.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s linked to on the web site.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton >>> > wrote:
 
 Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, 
 until I’m ready to go to OS 11?
 
 -Nathan Paxton
 
 Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from 
 my iPhone"
 
> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes 
> it very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep 
> inside Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C > > wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
>> Big Sur (11.5.2)?
>> —G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, 
>>> and I get ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>>> 
>>> I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was 
>>> no Spin Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>>> 
>>> -N
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Nathan Paxton
>>> napax...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's 
>>> too dark to read.
>>> —Mark Twain
>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 I have uploaded a test version to 
 >. Perhaps you can 
 download it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit 
 more efficiently.
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R.  > wrote:
> 
> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the 
> entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I 
> opened the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from 
> every entry, and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to 
> open (53 entries) and overall navigation in the system seems a bit 
> sluggish, but I can see all the entries.
> 
> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM 
> and CPU ramp up.
> 
> --
> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
> Department of Physics & Astronomy
> Rowan University
> 201 Mullica Hill Road
> Glassboro, NJ  08028
> 
> SCI 130E
> 856-256-4391
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of 
>> groups.  
>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default 
>> bib file it hangs.  
>> 
>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty 
>> file first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>> I’ve

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-11 Thread Nathan A. Paxton 
It now opens and works mostly as expected. Preview is quite slow, but 
that could always be a different issue, so I will start a new thread about  
that (I’m using biblatex and biber to do chicago-authordate, so that requires a 
couple edits to the template.

-NAP
-
Nathan Paxton
napax...@gmail.com

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark 
to read.
—Mark Twain
(It's kind of cramped, too.)

> On 11 Sep 2021, at 1:02 PM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
> Did anyone try the latest test version at 
>  >? It could give me some idea 
> about what the problems and how to possibly fix it.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> It’s linked to on the web site.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, 
>>> until I’m ready to go to OS 11?
>>> 
>>> -Nathan Paxton
>>> 
>>> Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from 
>>> my iPhone"
>>> 
 On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes 
 it very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep 
 inside Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C  > wrote:
> 
> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
> Big Sur (11.5.2)?
> —G
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton > > wrote:
>> 
>>  I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
>> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>> 
>>  I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
>> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>> 
>> -N
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Nathan Paxton
>> napax...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>> dark to read.
>>  —Mark Twain
>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>>> >> >. Perhaps you can download 
>>> it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more 
>>> efficiently.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. >>> > wrote:
 
 The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the 
 entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened 
 the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, 
 and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) 
 and overall navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can 
 see all the entries.
 
 While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
 keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
 CPU ramp up.
 
 --
 Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
 Department of Physics & Astronomy
 Rowan University
 201 Mullica Hill Road
 Glassboro, NJ  08028
 
 SCI 130E
 856-256-4391
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of 
> groups.
> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
> file it hangs.
> 
> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty 
> file first, and then tried the default bib file.
> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.
> 
> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the 
>> group table?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>>

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-11 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
Did anyone try the latest test version at 
>? It could give me some idea about 
what the problems and how to possibly fix it.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:51, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
> It’s linked to on the web site.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton > > wrote:
>> 
>> Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, 
>> until I’m ready to go to OS 11?
>> 
>> -Nathan Paxton
>> 
>> Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from my 
>> iPhone"
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it 
>>> very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside 
>>> Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
 Big Sur (11.5.2)?
 —G
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton  > wrote:
> 
>   I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
> 
>   I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
> 
> -N
> 
> 
> -
> Nathan Paxton
> napax...@gmail.com 
> 
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read.
>   —Mark Twain
> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>> > >. Perhaps you can download 
>> it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more 
>> efficiently.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the 
>>> entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened 
>>> the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, 
>>> and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) 
>>> and overall navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can 
>>> see all the entries.
>>> 
>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
>>> CPU ramp up.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>> Rowan University
>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>> 
>>> SCI 130E
>>> 856-256-4391
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of 
 groups.  
 Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
 file it hangs.  
 
 Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty 
 file first, and then tried the default bib file. 
 I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
 
 Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the 
> group table?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout 
>> the group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
>> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does that help any? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-11 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
It’s linked to on the web site.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2021, at 18:29, Nathan Paxton  wrote:
> 
> Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, until 
> I’m ready to go to OS 11?
> 
> -Nathan Paxton
> 
> Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from my 
> iPhone"
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it 
>> very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside 
>> Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS 
>>> Big Sur (11.5.2)?
>>> —G
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton >>> > wrote:
 
I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
 ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
 
I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
 Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
 
 -N
 
 
 -
 Nathan Paxton
 napax...@gmail.com 
 
 Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
 dark to read.
—Mark Twain
 (It's kind of cramped, too.)
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> I have uploaded a test version to 
>  >. Perhaps you can download 
> it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more 
> efficiently.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. > > wrote:
>> 
>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
>> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib 
>> file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it 
>> opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall 
>> navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the 
>> entries.
>> 
>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
>> CPU ramp up.
>> 
>> --
>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>> Rowan University
>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>> 
>> SCI 130E
>> 856-256-4391
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups. 
>>>  
>>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
>>> file it hangs.  
>>> 
>>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
>>> first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
>>> 
>>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
 table?
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout 
> the group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Does that help any? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no 
>>> idea what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without 
>>> seeing a sample from someone who has this problem.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. >>> > wrote:

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-11 Thread Nathan Paxton 
Blergh. If that’s the case, where can I download 1.8.2, which did work, until 
I’m ready to go to OS 11?

-Nathan Paxton

Please excuse misspelling and autocorrect artifacts as this is "Sent from my 
iPhone"

> On Sep 11, 2021, at 05:04, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it 
> very hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside 
> Apple’s very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS Big 
>> Sur (11.5.2)?
>> —G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
>>> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>>> 
>>> I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
>>> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>>> 
>>> -N
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Nathan Paxton
>>> napax...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>>> dark to read.
>>> —Mark Twain
>>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
 
 I have uploaded a test version to 
 . Perhaps you can download it 
 and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R.  wrote:
> 
> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib 
> file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it 
> opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall 
> navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the 
> entries.
> 
> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and 
> CPU ramp up.
> 
> --
> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
> Department of Physics & Astronomy
> Rowan University
> 201 Mullica Hill Road
> Glassboro, NJ  08028
> 
> SCI 130E
> 856-256-4391
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  
>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
>> file it hangs.  
>> 
>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
>> first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
>> 
>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
>>> table?
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
 
 Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the 
 group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
 efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
 for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does that help any? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea 
>> what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a 
>> sample from someone who has this problem.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R.  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>>> 
>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>>> 
>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in 
>>> trying to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any 
>>> work with it.
>>> 
>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
>>> 
>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
>>> rising.]
>>> 
>>> --

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-11 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
Yes, it really does seem to be a problem with older systems. That makes it very 
hard to fix, as I cannot see it myself, and the problem is deep inside Apple’s 
very basic code, so that sounds like a system bug.

Christiaan

> On 11 Sep 2021, at 03:14, Gilberto C  wrote:
> 
> I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS Big 
> Sur (11.5.2)?
> —G
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton > > wrote:
>> 
>>  I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
>> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
>> 
>>  I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
>> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
>> 
>> -N
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Nathan Paxton
>> napax...@gmail.com 
>> 
>> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>> dark to read.
>>  —Mark Twain
>> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>>> >> >. Perhaps you can download it 
>>> and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. >>> > wrote:
 
 The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
 assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib file 
 in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens. 
  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall 
 navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the 
 entries.
 
 While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
 keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU 
 ramp up.
 
 --
 Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
 Department of Physics & Astronomy
 Rowan University
 201 Mullica Hill Road
 Glassboro, NJ  08028
 
 SCI 130E
 856-256-4391
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  
> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib 
> file it hangs.  
> 
> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
> first, and then tried the default bib file. 
> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
> 
> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
>> table?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the 
>>> group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
>>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive 
>>> for this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Does that help any? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea 
> what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a 
> sample from someone who has this problem.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. > > wrote:
>> 
>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>> 
>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>> 
>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in 
>> trying to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any 
>> work with it.
>> 
>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
>> 
>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
>> rising.]
>> 
>> --
>> Dr. David R.

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Gilberto C 
I’m not having this problem. Could it be because I’m running it on MacOS Big 
Sur (11.5.2)?
—G


> On Sep 10, 2021, at 6:40 PM, Nathan A. Paxton  wrote:
> 
>   I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get 
> ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.
> 
>   I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin 
> Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.
> 
> -N
> 
> 
> -
> Nathan Paxton
> napax...@gmail.com 
> 
> Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark 
> to read.
>   —Mark Twain
> (It's kind of cramped, too.)
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> I have uploaded a test version to 
>> > >. Perhaps you can download it 
>> and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
>>> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib file 
>>> in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens.  
>>> It takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall navigation 
>>> in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the entries.
>>> 
>>> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the 
>>> keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU 
>>> ramp up.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>> Rowan University
>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>> 
>>> SCI 130E
>>> 856-256-4391
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
 >>> > wrote:
 
 Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  
 Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib file 
 it hangs.  
 
 Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
 first, and then tried the default bib file. 
 I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
 
 Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
> table?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the 
>> group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
>> efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive for 
>> this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does that help any? 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea 
 what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a 
 sample from someone who has this problem.
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R.  > wrote:
> 
> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
> 
> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
> 
> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying 
> to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with 
> it.
> 
> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
> 
> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
> rising.]
> 
> --
> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
> Department of Physics & Astronomy
> Rowan University
> 201 Mullica Hill Road
> Glassboro, NJ  08028
> 
> SCI 130E
> 856-256-4391
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Strange, I am having no problem.
>> 
>> Perhaps

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Nathan A. Paxton 
	I am having the same problem, trying to open 1.8.4. I click, and I get ehet the rainbow beach ball of death.	I’ve attached the diagnostic report from the Console; there was no Spin Report. If there is other info you need, I’d be happy to help.-N

BibDesk_2021-09-10-192932_MacintoshNAP.cpu_resource.diag
Description: Binary data

-Nathan Paxtonnapax...@gmail.comOutside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.	—Mark Twain(It's kind of cramped, too.)

On 10 Sep 2021, at 5:58 PM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:I have uploaded a test version to . Perhaps you can download it and test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.ChristiaanOn 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R.  wrote:




The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib file in vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens.  It takes, literally, 2 minutes to
 open (53 entries) and overall navigation in the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the entries.



While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the keywords still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU ramp up.





--

Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)

Department of Physics & Astronomy

Rowan University

201 Mullica Hill Road

Glassboro, NJ  08028




SCI 130E

856-256-4391










On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users  wrote:

Just
 standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  

Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib file it hangs.  




Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file first, and then tried the default bib file. 

I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  




Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  











On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:



Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group table?


Christiaan


On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:



Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive for this particular view. Do you have a really large
 number groups?


Christiaan


On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users  wrote:



Does that help any? 













On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:



I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample from someone who has this problem.


Christiaan


On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R.  wrote:



Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  


Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.


If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.


Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.


[After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and rising.]






--

Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)

Department of Physics & Astronomy

Rowan University

201 Mullica Hill Road

Glassboro, NJ  08028




SCI 130E

856-256-4391










On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:



Strange, I am having no problem.


Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and send it to me off list?


Christiaan


On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider  wrote:


I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)


On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users  wrote:


I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach ball :(  






On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:









The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.


We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds. 

This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
I have uploaded a test version to >. Perhaps you can download it and 
test it out, it may do the group table layout a bit more efficiently.

Christiaan

> On 10 Sep 2021, at 22:56, Klassen, David R.  wrote:
> 
> The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I 
> assume by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib file in 
> vim, deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens.  It 
> takes, literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall navigation in 
> the system seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the entries.
> 
> While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the keywords 
> still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU ramp up.
> 
> --
> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
> Department of Physics & Astronomy
> Rowan University
> 201 Mullica Hill Road
> Glassboro, NJ  08028
> 
> SCI 130E
> 856-256-4391
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.  
>> Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib file 
>> it hangs.  
>> 
>> Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file 
>> first, and then tried the default bib file. 
>> I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.  
>> 
>> Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group 
>>> table?
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the 
 group table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be 
 efficient, we’re not doing anything really complicated and expensive for 
 this particular view. Do you have a really large number groups?
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  > wrote:
> 
> Does that help any? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea 
>> what could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample 
>> from someone who has this problem.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>>> 
>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>>> 
>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying 
>>> to do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.
>>> 
>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
>>> 
>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
>>> rising.]
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>> Rowan University
>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>> 
>>> SCI 130E
>>> 856-256-4391
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 Strange, I am having no problem.
 
 Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and 
 send it to me off list?
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider  > wrote:
> 
> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk 
> does open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I 
> too get Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an 
> impact.)
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  > wrote:
> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning 
> beach ball :(  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new 
>> version of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Klassen, David R. 
The file I was opening had a lot of unique keywords in all the entries—I assume 
by “groups” you mean those created by that.  I opened the .bib file in vim, 
deleted all the keywords lines from every entry, and now it opens.  It takes, 
literally, 2 minutes to open (53 entries) and overall navigation in the system 
seems a bit sluggish, but I can see all the entries.

While that’s open I tried to open the original version with all the keywords 
still in it and the beachball spins and spins and the MEM and CPU ramp up.

--
Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
Department of Physics & Astronomy
Rowan University
201 Mullica Hill Road
Glassboro, NJ  08028

SCI 130E
856-256-4391




On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
 wrote:

Just standard fonts, but yes, I do have quite a large number of groups.
Opening an empty file works just fine, but when I open my default bib file it 
hangs.

Attaching another sample, this time I opened BibDesk with an empty file first, 
and then tried the default bib file.
I’ve waited a couple of minutes now, but it remains unresponsive.

Also, I’m still on an old OS, Mojave, maybe that’s an issue?



On Sep 10, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group table?

Christiaan

On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the group 
table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be efficient, we’re not 
doing anything really complicated and expensive for this particular view. Do 
you have a really large number groups?

Christiaan

On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
 wrote:

Does that help any?






On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea what could 
give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample from someone who 
has this problem.

Christiaan

On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. 
mailto:klas...@rowan.edu>> wrote:

Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.

Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open…
MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.

If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to do 
anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.

Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.

[After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and rising.]

--
Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
Department of Physics & Astronomy
Rowan University
201 Mullica Hill Road
Glassboro, NJ  08028

SCI 130E
856-256-4391




On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Strange, I am having no problem.

Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and send it 
to me off list?

Christiaan

On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider 
mailto:jschnei...@pobox.com>> wrote:

I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does open 
for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get Mac's 
spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
 wrote:
I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach ball :(


On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version of 
BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.

We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by sharing their 
experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds.

This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the "BibDesk" 
menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/

or by visiting the BibDesk home page at

http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/

or by following the link below, which will begin immediate download:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download

For those interested follow the full release notes for this version.

Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4

New Features
  *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
  *  New preference to hide group highlights
  *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search
  *  Contextual menu when searching file content
  *  Restore favicon in browser
  *  Save file links using modern bookmark data

Bugs Fixed
  *  Improve UI
  *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations
  *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
  *  Fix moving multiple

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
Or could it be that you are using some non standard font for the group table?

Christiaan

> On 10 Sep 2021, at 20:01, Christiaan Hofman  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the group 
> table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be efficient, we’re 
> not doing anything really complicated and expensive for this particular view. 
> Do you have a really large number groups?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Does that help any? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea what 
>>> could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample from 
>>> someone who has this problem.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
 On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. >>> > wrote:
 
 Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
 
 Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
 MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
 Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
 
 If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to 
 do anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.
 
 Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
 
 [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and 
 rising.]
 
 --
 Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
 Department of Physics & Astronomy
 Rowan University
 201 Mullica Hill Road
 Glassboro, NJ  08028
 
 SCI 130E
 856-256-4391
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman  > wrote:
> 
> Strange, I am having no problem.
> 
> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and 
> send it to me off list?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider > > wrote:
>> 
>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does 
>> open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get 
>> Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>> > > wrote:
>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach 
>> ball :(  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version 
>>> of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.
>>> 
>>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by 
>>> sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds. 
>>> 
>>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the 
>>> "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at
>>> 
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at
>>> 
>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ 
>>> 
>>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate download:
>>> 
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this version.
>>> 
>>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4
>>> 
>>> New Features
>>>   *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
>>>   *  New preference to hide group highlights
>>>   *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search
>>>   *  Contextual menu when searching file content
>>>   *  Restore favicon in browser
>>>   *  Save file links using modern bookmark data
>>> 
>>> Bugs Fixed
>>>   *  Improve UI
>>>   *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations
>>>   *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
>>>   *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
>>>   *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
>>>   *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
>>>   *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data starts with a 
>>> URL
>>>   *  Improve table UIs
>>>   *  Improve animation of control views
>>>   *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
>>>   *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
>>>   *  Fix Quick Look updates

Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
Unfortunately not too much. It seems to take a long time to layout the group 
table.I would expect that the systems auto layout would be efficient, we’re not 
doing anything really complicated and expensive for this particular view. Do 
you have a really large number groups?

Christiaan

> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:47, Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  wrote:
> 
> Does that help any? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 10:40 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea what 
>> could give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample from 
>> someone who has this problem.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
>>> 
>>> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
>>> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
>>> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
>>> 
>>> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to do 
>>> anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.
>>> 
>>> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
>>> 
>>> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and rising.]
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
>>> Department of Physics & Astronomy
>>> Rowan University
>>> 201 Mullica Hill Road
>>> Glassboro, NJ  08028
>>> 
>>> SCI 130E
>>> 856-256-4391
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 Strange, I am having no problem.
 
 Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and 
 send it to me off list?
 
 Christiaan
 
> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider  > wrote:
> 
> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does 
> open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get 
> Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>  > wrote:
> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach 
> ball :(  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version 
>> of BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.
>> 
>> We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by 
>> sharing their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds. 
>> 
>> This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the 
>> "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ 
>> 
>> 
>> or by visiting the BibDesk home page at
>> 
>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ 
>> 
>> or by following the link below, which will begin immediate download:
>> 
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> For those interested follow the full release notes for this version.
>> 
>> Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4
>> 
>> New Features
>>   *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
>>   *  New preference to hide group highlights
>>   *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search
>>   *  Contextual menu when searching file content
>>   *  Restore favicon in browser
>>   *  Save file links using modern bookmark data
>> 
>> Bugs Fixed
>>   *  Improve UI
>>   *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations
>>   *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
>>   *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
>>   *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
>>   *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
>>   *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data starts with a 
>> URL
>>   *  Improve table UIs
>>   *  Improve animation of control views
>>   *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
>>   *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
>>   *  Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes
>>   *  Fix opening files in some cases
>>   *  Try not to collapse last column in main table
>> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Christiaan Hofman 
I really see no problem with a 1000+ file. And I have really no idea what could 
give a problem. I cannot say anything without seeing a sample from someone who 
has this problem.

Christiaan

> On 10 Sep 2021, at 19:18, Klassen, David R.  wrote:
> 
> Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.  
> 
> Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open… 
> MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
> Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.
> 
> If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to do 
> anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.
> 
> Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.
> 
> [After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and rising.]
> 
> --
> Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
> Department of Physics & Astronomy
> Rowan University
> 201 Mullica Hill Road
> Glassboro, NJ  08028
> 
> SCI 130E
> 856-256-4391
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman > > wrote:
>> 
>> Strange, I am having no problem.
>> 
>> Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and send 
>> it to me off list?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does 
>>> open for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get 
>>> Mac's spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach 
>>> ball :(  
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman >>> > wrote:
 
 The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version of 
 BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.
 
 We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by sharing 
 their experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds. 
 
 This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the 
 "BibDesk" menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at
 
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/ 
 
 
 or by visiting the BibDesk home page at
 
 http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/ 
 
 or by following the link below, which will begin immediate download:
 
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download
  
 
 
 For those interested follow the full release notes for this version.
 
 Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4
 
 New Features
   *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
   *  New preference to hide group highlights
   *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search
   *  Contextual menu when searching file content
   *  Restore favicon in browser
   *  Save file links using modern bookmark data
 
 Bugs Fixed
   *  Improve UI
   *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations
   *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
   *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
   *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
   *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
   *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data starts with a URL
   *  Improve table UIs
   *  Improve animation of control views
   *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
   *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
   *  Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes
   *  Fix opening files in some cases
   *  Try not to collapse last column in main table
 
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] [EXTERNAL] BibDesk 1.8.4

2021-09-10 Thread Klassen, David R. 
Opened BibDesk; MEM = 20.4 MB, CPU = 0.0%.

Opening refs.bib (67 kb) from ~/Desktop via File → Open…
MEM = 1.04 GB (and rising!), CPU = 99.9%
Also has it’s in red with (Not Responding) behind the name.

If I wait a super long time, the file will open but the lag in trying to do 
anything is horrible.  So, basically, I can’t do any work with it.

Running macOS Catalina (10.15.7), 2.6 GHz 6-core I7 with 32 GB RAM.

[After about 1 minute, and file still not opened, MEM = 8.07 GB and rising.]

--
Dr. David R. Klassen, Chair (he/him/his)
Department of Physics & Astronomy
Rowan University
201 Mullica Hill Road
Glassboro, NJ  08028

SCI 130E
856-256-4391




On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Strange, I am having no problem.

Perhaps you could make a Sample of BiBdesk using Activity Monitor, and send it 
to me off list?

Christiaan

On 10 Sep 2021, at 18:41, Jodi Schneider 
mailto:jschnei...@pobox.com>> wrote:

I updated. My default is an empty library (0 references) so BibDesk does open 
for me. However, on trying to open RIS and BibTeX files, I too get Mac's 
spinning beach ball. (Mac 10.14.6 if that is has an impact.)

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 9:51 AM Jan David Hauck via Bibdesk-users 
mailto:bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
 wrote:
I’ve just updated, but now when I open BibDesk I get the spinning beach ball :(


On Sep 10, 2021, at 4:16 AM, Christiaan Hofman 
mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that a new version of 
BibDesk, version 1.8.4, is now available.

We thank the users who have contributed to BibDesk development by sharing their 
experiences with BibDesk, and testing nightly builds.

This release can be obtained by selecting "check for updates" in the "BibDesk" 
menu, visiting the Sourceforge downloads page at

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/

or by visiting the BibDesk home page at

http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/

or by following the link below, which will begin immediate download:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bibdesk/files/BibDesk/BibDesk-1.8.4/BibDesk-1.8.4.dmg/download

For those interested follow the full release notes for this version.

Release notes for BibDesk version 1.8.4

New Features
  *  Allow deleting bookmarks by dragging to the trash
  *  New preference to hide group highlights
  *  Allow changing the fields to filter with in the quick search
  *  Contextual menu when searching file content
  *  Restore favicon in browser
  *  Save file links using modern bookmark data

Bugs Fixed
  *  Improve UI
  *  Avoid some macro strings editing problems in rare situations
  *  Prevent crasher after closing a document containing macros
  *  Fix moving multiple bookmarks by dragging
  *  Fix undo of moving bookmarks
  *  Fix toggle for detail editor side bar
  *  Fix adding publications from clipboard when the data starts with a URL
  *  Improve table UIs
  *  Improve animation of control views
  *  Improve efficiency of UI updating
  *  Fix Journal field from RIS import
  *  Fix Quick Look updates when selection changes
  *  Fix opening files in some cases
  *  Try not to collapse last column in main table


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