Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On 03/03/2013, at 2:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote:
On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:13, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next
release won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to
do it in the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it
(now) crashes and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are
aware that you can copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in Astrophysical
Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011,
\aj, 142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate
the layout I want?
Sure, change the .bst and edit the TeX preview template to use your preferred
.sty or other setup. There's a button for this in the prefs where you set up
the TeX preview.
Adam
OK, what is not obvious to me is how to generate the \bibitem code. I can
readily generate a reference in the right format as a PDF, but not the \bibitem
entry to insert into the LaTeX article text. Is that possible?
DN
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On Mar 3, 2013, at 13:30, David Nicholls wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 2:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote:
On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:13, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next
release won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to
do it in the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it
(now) crashes and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are
aware that you can copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in
Astrophysical Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011,
\aj, 142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate
the layout I want?
Sure, change the .bst and edit the TeX preview template to use your
preferred .sty or other setup. There's a button for this in the prefs where
you set up the TeX preview.
Adam
OK, what is not obvious to me is how to generate the \bibitem code. I can
readily generate a reference in the right format as a PDF, but not the
\bibitem entry to insert into the LaTeX article text. Is that possible?
DN
Copy As menu (LaTeX) (in the main menu and the context menu)
Christiaan
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On 04/03/2013, at 4:54 AM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mar 3, 2013, at 13:30, David Nicholls wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 2:20 AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote:
On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:13, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next
release won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you
to do it in the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as
it (now) crashes and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are
aware that you can copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in
Astrophysical Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011,
\aj, 142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate
the layout I want?
Sure, change the .bst and edit the TeX preview template to use your
preferred .sty or other setup. There's a button for this in the prefs where
you set up the TeX preview.
Adam
OK, what is not obvious to me is how to generate the \bibitem code. I can
readily generate a reference in the right format as a PDF, but not the
\bibitem entry to insert into the LaTeX article text. Is that possible?
DN
Copy As menu (LaTeX) (in the main menu and the context menu)
Christiaan
Excellent. That will save a lot of time and typos.
DB
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[Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
I don't remember this being reported. When I use Tex Preview (which I have customized a little to get the output style I want), if there's a non ASCII character in the abstract field of the Bibdesk record (eg a greek character), v 1.5.8 reports an error (though the log doesn't tell you what it is), but v 1.6.0 just runs indefinitely and you have to quit the app. Both work once you've cleared out the offending character(s) (I cut and paste to/from the Abstract field using BBEdit to replace non standard chars). DN __ Research School of Astronomy Astrophysics Mt Stromlo Observatory Australian National University -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:55, David Nicholls wrote: I don't remember this being reported. When I use Tex Preview (which I have customized a little to get the output style I want), if there's a non ASCII character in the abstract field of the Bibdesk record (eg a greek character), v 1.5.8 reports an error (though the log doesn't tell you what it is), but v 1.6.0 just runs indefinitely and you have to quit the app. Both work once you've cleared out the offending character(s) (I cut and paste to/from the Abstract field using BBEdit to replace non standard chars). DN There are two different problems here. The first is special characters, which can be a problem with tex. Unless you're using special TeX programs like XeTeX those aren't accepted. That's not in any way a problem in BibDesk, it really is a feature: it warns you that your data is not compatible with the tex program you use, which really is the primary purpose of the TeX preview. So it;s a problem with your data. The crash in 1.6.0 has nothing to do with special characters. There is a known problem with (external window) Text TeX preview in 1.6.0. It crashes in a child process. The BibDesk program itself isn't crashing, so you don't need to quit. The bottom-window preview (View Bottom Preview TeX) does not have this problem. This was fixed in the nightly builds, so you may want to get that. Those should be safe to use, only the localizations are disabled (shouldn't be a problem for you.) Christiaan -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On 02/03/2013, at 10:11 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:55, David Nicholls wrote: I don't remember this being reported. When I use Tex Preview (which I have customized a little to get the output style I want), if there's a non ASCII character in the abstract field of the Bibdesk record (eg a greek character), v 1.5.8 reports an error (though the log doesn't tell you what it is), but v 1.6.0 just runs indefinitely and you have to quit the app. Both work once you've cleared out the offending character(s) (I cut and paste to/from the Abstract field using BBEdit to replace non standard chars). DN There are two different problems here. The first is special characters, which can be a problem with tex. Unless you're using special TeX programs like XeTeX those aren't accepted. That's not in any way a problem in BibDesk, it really is a feature: it warns you that your data is not compatible with the tex program you use, which really is the primary purpose of the TeX preview. So it;s a problem with your data. The crash in 1.6.0 has nothing to do with special characters. There is a known problem with (external window) Text TeX preview in 1.6.0. It crashes in a child process. The BibDesk program itself isn't crashing, so you don't need to quit. The bottom-window preview (View Bottom Preview TeX) does not have this problem. This was fixed in the nightly builds, so you may want to get that. Those should be safe to use, only the localizations are disabled (shouldn't be a problem for you.) Christiaan Thanks, Christiaan, I had never explored the bottom preview window, and it work very nicely! I just occasionally need to cut/paste the preview (saves time in generating a \bibitem) so I'll await the full release of 1.6.1 DN -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On Mar 2, 2013, at 13:02, David Nicholls wrote: On 02/03/2013, at 10:11 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:55, David Nicholls wrote: I don't remember this being reported. When I use Tex Preview (which I have customized a little to get the output style I want), if there's a non ASCII character in the abstract field of the Bibdesk record (eg a greek character), v 1.5.8 reports an error (though the log doesn't tell you what it is), but v 1.6.0 just runs indefinitely and you have to quit the app. Both work once you've cleared out the offending character(s) (I cut and paste to/from the Abstract field using BBEdit to replace non standard chars). DN There are two different problems here. The first is special characters, which can be a problem with tex. Unless you're using special TeX programs like XeTeX those aren't accepted. That's not in any way a problem in BibDesk, it really is a feature: it warns you that your data is not compatible with the tex program you use, which really is the primary purpose of the TeX preview. So it;s a problem with your data. The crash in 1.6.0 has nothing to do with special characters. There is a known problem with (external window) Text TeX preview in 1.6.0. It crashes in a child process. The BibDesk program itself isn't crashing, so you don't need to quit. The bottom-window preview (View Bottom Preview TeX) does not have this problem. This was fixed in the nightly builds, so you may want to get that. Those should be safe to use, only the localizations are disabled (shouldn't be a problem for you.) Christiaan Thanks, Christiaan, I had never explored the bottom preview window, and it work very nicely! I just occasionally need to cut/paste the preview (saves time in generating a \bibitem) so I'll await the full release of 1.6.1 DN You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next release won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to do it in the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it (now) crashes and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are aware that you can copy the fully prepared \bibitem? Christiaan -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next release
won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to do it in
the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it (now) crashes
and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are aware that you can
copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in Astrophysical
Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011, \aj,
142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
DN
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next release
won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to do it in
the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it (now) crashes
and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are aware that you can
copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in Astrophysical
Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011, \aj,
142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate the
layout I want?
DN
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
You can have as many layouts you want, you simply have to write the template
and install it using BibDesk's preferences Templates.
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On 02/03/2013, at 15:13 , David Nicholls wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls
da...@mso.anu.edu.aumailto:da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman
cmhof...@gmail.commailto:cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next release
won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to do it in the
separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it (now) crashes and
anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are aware that you can copy the
fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in Astrophysical
Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011, \aj,
142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate the
layout I want?
DN
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] 1.5.8 and 1.6.0: Tex preview bug difference
On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:13, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 12:33 AM, David Nicholls da...@mso.anu.edu.au wrote:
On 02/03/2013, at 11:43 PM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote:
You can just as well copy the text from the bottom preview. The next
release won't provide anything more than that, apart from allowing you to
do it in the separate window. The old Text preview will be gone, as it
(now) crashes and anyway has always been problematic. Oh, and you are aware
that you can copy the fully prepared \bibitem?
Christiaan
No, I wasn't aware, but its layout needs to be (typically) in Astrophysical
Journal layout: e.g.
\bibitem[Nicholls et al.(2011)]{Nicholls11}Nicholls, D.~C. et al. 2011, \aj,
142, 83
How do I do that? I would be very useful.
OK, it looks like it's effected by Edit Copy As LaTeX, but the result
requires further editing. Is there any source file I can edit to generate
the layout I want?
Sure, change the .bst and edit the TeX preview template to use your preferred
.sty or other setup. There's a button for this in the prefs where you set up
the TeX preview.
Adam
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