Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-16 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Dear Andreas,

Now, I understand your advices. Thanks for the navigation.
(Sorry for disturbing, but I thought that my question wasn't
understood due to my poor English.)

Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
masa

p.s.
By the way, asking bibdesk-deve...@lists.sourceforge.net
is the only the way of customizing "Container"?
Actually, "Title" is the replacement of "Container" for type "inbook",
which is usually very long and I would like to use "Booktitle".
(This can be just a demandfor BibDesk.)

On 2011/10/13木, at 18:10, Fischlin Andreas wrote:

> Container does exactly that for you. You got already the advice. Why don't 
> you try and see for yourself?
> 
> If you don't "believe" us, read the BibDesk help "Browsing References" and 
> the description of the field Container whether Container is for you.
> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
> 
> 
> ETH Zurich
> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
> CHN E 21.1
> Universitaetstrasse 16
> 8092 Zurich
> SWITZERLAND
> 
> andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
> www.sysecol.ethz.ch
> 
> +41 44 633-6090 phone
> +41 44 633-1136 fax
> +41 79 221-4657 mobile
> 
> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/10/2011, at 10:14 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andreas,
>> 
>> If I understand correctly, the way you taught is just a normal way.
>> 
>> My question is that if there is a way changing "Container" part
>> for different types of references.
>> 
>> I want to set parameters as:
>> 
>> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
>> for articles
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> %a1_%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
>> for inbook.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> masa
>> 
>> p.s.
>> I just recognize that if I set
>> %a1_%f{Journal}%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
>> then I probably get what I want.
>> If there is a better idea or default functionality, please.
>> 
>> On 2011/10/13木, at 16:40, Fischlin Andreas wrote:
>> 
>>> Use %f{Container} to specify how cite keys are generated (menu "BibDesk -> 
>>> Preferences... -> Cite Key" in the Format String having set the Preset 
>>> Format to "Custom")
>>> 
>>> and you fill in the fields of the publications the normal way.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ETH Zurich
>>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
>>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
>>> CHN E 21.1
>>> Universitaetstrasse 16
>>> 8092 Zurich
>>> SWITZERLAND
>>> 
>>> andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
>>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch
>>> 
>>> +41 44 633-6090 phone
>>> +41 44 633-1136 fax
>>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile
>>> 
>>>   Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/10/2011, at 07:55 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you, Christiaan,
 
 I need more detailed explanations.
 How do I define "Container" for articles and inbook?
> You can use %f{Container} for this.
 
 I checked following link, but I couldn't figured out.
 http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_91.html#SEC159
 
 Thank you for your advices in advance.
 
 Sincerely,
 masa
 
 On 2011/10/11火, at 16:35, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
>> for example article, inbook, etc...
>> 
>> I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
>> 
>> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
>> 
>> gives an example of the cite key:
>> 
>> McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
>> 
>> However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
>> so autogeneration just skip the part.
>> 
>> McCracken__2004_v0
>> 
>> Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
>> if there is no ENTRY journal?
>> Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
>> 
>> Sorry if there is a same question.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> masa
> 
> You can use %f{Container} for this.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
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>> 
>> 
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>> t

Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-13 Thread Fischlin Andreas
Container does exactly that for you. You got already the advice. Why don't you 
try and see for yourself?

If you don't "believe" us, read the BibDesk help "Browsing References" and the 
description of the field Container whether Container is for you.

Regards,
Andreas


ETH Zurich
Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
CHN E 21.1
Universitaetstrasse 16
8092 Zurich
SWITZERLAND

andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
www.sysecol.ethz.ch

+41 44 633-6090 phone
+41 44 633-1136 fax
+41 79 221-4657 mobile

 Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!




On 13/10/2011, at 10:14 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:

> Thanks Andreas,
> 
> If I understand correctly, the way you taught is just a normal way.
> 
> My question is that if there is a way changing "Container" part
> for different types of references.
> 
> I want to set parameters as:
> 
> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
> for articles
> 
> and
> 
> %a1_%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
> for inbook.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> masa
> 
> p.s.
> I just recognize that if I set
> %a1_%f{Journal}%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
> then I probably get what I want.
> If there is a better idea or default functionality, please.
> 
> On 2011/10/13木, at 16:40, Fischlin Andreas wrote:
> 
>> Use %f{Container} to specify how cite keys are generated (menu "BibDesk -> 
>> Preferences... -> Cite Key" in the Format String having set the Preset 
>> Format to "Custom")
>> 
>> and you fill in the fields of the publications the normal way.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>> 
>> 
>> ETH Zurich
>> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
>> CHN E 21.1
>> Universitaetstrasse 16
>> 8092 Zurich
>> SWITZERLAND
>> 
>> andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
>> www.sysecol.ethz.ch
>> 
>> +41 44 633-6090 phone
>> +41 44 633-1136 fax
>> +41 79 221-4657 mobile
>> 
>>Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/10/2011, at 07:55 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you, Christiaan,
>>> 
>>> I need more detailed explanations.
>>> How do I define "Container" for articles and inbook?
 You can use %f{Container} for this.
>>> 
>>> I checked following link, but I couldn't figured out.
>>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_91.html#SEC159
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your advices in advance.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> masa
>>> 
>>> On 2011/10/11火, at 16:35, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>>> 
 
 On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
 
> Dear all,
> 
> I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
> for example article, inbook, etc...
> 
> I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
> 
> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
> 
> gives an example of the cite key:
> 
> McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
> 
> However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
> so autogeneration just skip the part.
> 
> McCracken__2004_v0
> 
> Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
> if there is no ENTRY journal?
> Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
> 
> Sorry if there is a same question.
> 
> Sincerely,
> masa
 
 You can use %f{Container} for this.
 
 Christiaan
 
>> 
>> --
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>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct
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> 
> 
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> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-13 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Thanks Andreas,

If I understand correctly, the way you taught is just a normal way.

My question is that if there is a way changing "Container" part
for different types of references.

I want to set parameters as:

%a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
for articles

and

%a1_%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
for inbook.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
masa

p.s.
I just recognize that if I set
%a1_%f{Journal}%f{Booktitle}_%Y_v%n
then I probably get what I want.
If there is a better idea or default functionality, please.

On 2011/10/13木, at 16:40, Fischlin Andreas wrote:

> Use %f{Container} to specify how cite keys are generated (menu "BibDesk -> 
> Preferences... -> Cite Key" in the Format String having set the Preset Format 
> to "Custom")
> 
> and you fill in the fields of the publications the normal way.
> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
> 
> 
> ETH Zurich
> Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
> CHN E 21.1
> Universitaetstrasse 16
> 8092 Zurich
> SWITZERLAND
> 
> andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
> www.sysecol.ethz.ch
> 
> +41 44 633-6090 phone
> +41 44 633-1136 fax
> +41 79 221-4657 mobile
> 
> Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/10/2011, at 07:55 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Christiaan,
>> 
>> I need more detailed explanations.
>> How do I define "Container" for articles and inbook?
>>> You can use %f{Container} for this.
>> 
>> I checked following link, but I couldn't figured out.
>> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_91.html#SEC159
>> 
>> Thank you for your advices in advance.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> masa
>> 
>> On 2011/10/11火, at 16:35, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
>>> 
 Dear all,
 
 I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
 for example article, inbook, etc...
 
 I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
 
 %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
 
 gives an example of the cite key:
 
 McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
 
 However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
 so autogeneration just skip the part.
 
 McCracken__2004_v0
 
 Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
 if there is no ENTRY journal?
 Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
 
 Sorry if there is a same question.
 
 Sincerely,
 masa
>>> 
>>> You can use %f{Container} for this.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
> 
> --
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a
> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-13 Thread Fischlin Andreas
Use %f{Container} to specify how cite keys are generated (menu "BibDesk -> 
Preferences... -> Cite Key" in the Format String having set the Preset Format 
to "Custom")

and you fill in the fields of the publications the normal way.

Regards,
Andreas


ETH Zurich
Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin
Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
CHN E 21.1
Universitaetstrasse 16
8092 Zurich
SWITZERLAND

andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch
www.sysecol.ethz.ch

+41 44 633-6090 phone
+41 44 633-1136 fax
+41 79 221-4657 mobile

 Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it!




On 13/10/2011, at 07:55 , Masahiro Takahashi wrote:

> Thank you, Christiaan,
> 
> I need more detailed explanations.
> How do I define "Container" for articles and inbook?
>> You can use %f{Container} for this.
> 
> I checked following link, but I couldn't figured out.
> http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_91.html#SEC159
> 
> Thank you for your advices in advance.
> 
> Sincerely,
> masa
> 
> On 2011/10/11火, at 16:35, Christiaan Hofman wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
>>> for example article, inbook, etc...
>>> 
>>> I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
>>> 
>>> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
>>> 
>>> gives an example of the cite key:
>>> 
>>> McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
>>> 
>>> However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
>>> so autogeneration just skip the part.
>>> 
>>> McCracken__2004_v0
>>> 
>>> Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
>>> if there is no ENTRY journal?
>>> Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
>>> 
>>> Sorry if there is a same question.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> masa
>> 
>> You can use %f{Container} for this.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a
>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct
>> ___
>> Bibdesk-users mailing list
>> Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
> 
> 
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> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-12 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Thank you, Christiaan,

I need more detailed explanations.
How do I define "Container" for articles and inbook?
> You can use %f{Container} for this.

I checked following link, but I couldn't figured out.
http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/manual/BibDesk%20Help_91.html#SEC159

Thank you for your advices in advance.

Sincerely,
masa

On 2011/10/11火, at 16:35, Christiaan Hofman wrote:

> 
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
>> for example article, inbook, etc...
>> 
>> I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
>> 
>> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
>> 
>> gives an example of the cite key:
>> 
>> McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
>> 
>> However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
>> so autogeneration just skip the part.
>> 
>> McCracken__2004_v0
>> 
>> Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
>> if there is no ENTRY journal?
>> Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
>> 
>> Sorry if there is a same question.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> masa
> 
> You can use %f{Container} for this.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
> 
> --
> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a
> definitive record of customers, application performance, security
> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-11 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:31, Masahiro Takahashi wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
> for example article, inbook, etc...
> 
> I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as
> 
> %a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n
> 
> gives an example of the cite key:
> 
> McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0
> 
> However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
> so autogeneration just skip the part.
> 
> McCracken__2004_v0
> 
> Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
> if there is no ENTRY journal?
> Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.
> 
> Sorry if there is a same question.
> 
> Sincerely,
> masa

You can use %f{Container} for this.

Christiaan


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[Bibdesk-users] Cite Key Autogeneration

2011-10-10 Thread Masahiro Takahashi
Dear all,

I'm using BibDesk with several kinds of materials,
for example article, inbook, etc...

I'm using "Cite Key Autogeneration" functionality as

%a1_%f{Journal}_%Y_v%n

gives an example of the cite key:

McCracken_Source-Forge_2004_v0

However, for inbook, there is no ENTRY Journal,
so autogeneration just skip the part.

McCracken__2004_v0

Is there any way of replacing Journal by (for example) Booktitle,
if there is no ENTRY journal?
Or is it possible to tell BibDesk use Booktitle for inbook.

Sorry if there is a same question.

Sincerely,
masa

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