Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-08 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 8 Nov 2008, at 11:25 AM, Christian Plessl wrote:

> On 03.11.2008, at 15:21, Christian wrote:
>> [...]
>> As I wrote above: Renaming files automatically when the cite-key
>> changed.
>> Christian
>
>
> I think you misunderstood Christiaan's answer. Files will be renamed,
> but you have to manually trigger an "Auto File" command. At least this
> works with my setup, which is very similar to yours.
>
> Example: I file all papers at a fixed location ~/Documents/Work/
> Paperlib und use the following Format String for the file format:
> "%f{Cite Key}%n0%e".  The cite key is generated with format "%a[-] 
> []22-
> %y%U1" but I think this is irrelevant for this discussion.
>
> Whenever I change something in the BibTeX fields that affect the
> Citekey and hence the path for auto filing, I press Cmd-K to update
> the Citekey and then Cmd-Shift-K for filing the files to the correct
> place. This renames all linked files.
>
> Best regards,
>  Christian
>

And more precisely: the *first* time is automatic (i.e. the first time  
*all* the necessary fields are filled in). After that, you have to do  
it yourself. When not all fields have been filled in and it's waiting  
to automatically auto-file, you will see a little icon in the status  
bar of the item window. When you don't see the key, it either just  
automatically renamed the file(s), or you have to do it manually.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-08 Thread Christian Plessl
On 03.11.2008, at 15:21, Christian wrote:
> [...]
> As I wrote above: Renaming files automatically when the cite-key
> changed.
> Christian


I think you misunderstood Christiaan's answer. Files will be renamed,  
but you have to manually trigger an "Auto File" command. At least this  
works with my setup, which is very similar to yours.

Example: I file all papers at a fixed location ~/Documents/Work/ 
Paperlib und use the following Format String for the file format:  
"%f{Cite Key}%n0%e".  The cite key is generated with format "%a[-][]22- 
%y%U1" but I think this is irrelevant for this discussion.

Whenever I change something in the BibTeX fields that affect the  
Citekey and hence the path for auto filing, I press Cmd-K to update  
the Citekey and then Cmd-Shift-K for filing the files to the correct  
place. This renames all linked files.

Best regards,
  Christian


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-03 Thread Christian

Am 03.11.2008 um 14:30 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:

>
> On 3 Nov 2008, at 2:24 PM, Christian wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 02.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>> On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed
 location".
 This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
 automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with
 "%b/
 %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
 For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I  
 finished
 set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
 correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.

 But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
 cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key
 exists?

 Thanks in advance
 Christian
>>>
>>> Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are
>>> supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it
>>> again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>
>> Do you plan to include this as a feature or is it not possible at all
>> to do this via BibDesk.
>>
>> Christian
>
> Do we plan what as a feature? The situation is as I describe, and that
> won't change in the future.
>
> Christiaan

As I wrote above: Renaming files automatically when the cite-key  
changed.

Christian

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-03 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 3 Nov 2008, at 2:31 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote:

>
> On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Christian wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 02.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>>> On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:
 Hi,

 I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed
 location".
 This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
 automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with
 "%b/
 %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
 For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I  
 finished
 set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
 correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.

 But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
 cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key
 exists?

 Thanks in advance
 Christian
>>>
>>> Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are
>>> supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it
>>> again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>
>> Do you plan to include this as a feature or is it not possible at all
>> to do this via BibDesk.
>>
>
> Is this something that could be scripted? Not that I am the one to do
> it, but I am willing to bet it is.
>
> -Adam

Yes. Autofiling is scriptable, and you can add a script hooks for  
field changes.

Christiaan



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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-03 Thread Adam M. Goldstein

On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Christian wrote:

>
> Am 02.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>> On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed
>>> location".
>>> This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
>>> automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with
>>> "%b/
>>> %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
>>> For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I finished
>>> set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
>>> correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.
>>>
>>> But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
>>> cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key  
>>> exists?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Christian
>>
>> Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are
>> supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it
>> again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.
>>
>> Christiaan
>
> Do you plan to include this as a feature or is it not possible at all
> to do this via BibDesk.
>

Is this something that could be scripted? Not that I am the one to do  
it, but I am willing to bet it is.

-Adam
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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-03 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 3 Nov 2008, at 2:24 PM, Christian wrote:

>
> Am 02.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
>> On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed
>>> location".
>>> This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
>>> automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with
>>> "%b/
>>> %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
>>> For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I finished
>>> set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
>>> correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.
>>>
>>> But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
>>> cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key  
>>> exists?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> Christian
>>
>> Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are
>> supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it
>> again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.
>>
>> Christiaan
>
> Do you plan to include this as a feature or is it not possible at all
> to do this via BibDesk.
>
> Christian

Do we plan what as a feature? The situation is as I describe, and that  
won't change in the future.

Christiaan


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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-03 Thread Christian

Am 02.11.2008 um 16:33 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
> On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed  
>> location".
>> This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
>> automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with  
>> "%b/
>> %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
>> For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I finished
>> set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
>> correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.
>>
>> But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
>> cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key exists?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Christian
>
> Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are
> supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it
> again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.
>
> Christiaan

Do you plan to include this as a feature or is it not possible at all  
to do this via BibDesk.

Christian

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Re: [Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-02 Thread Christiaan Hofman

On 2 Nov 2008, at 3:09 PM, Christian wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed location".
> This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers
> automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with "%b/
> %f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
> For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I finished
> set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is
> correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.
>
> But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the
> cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key exists?
>
> Thanks in advance
> Christian

Autofiling will typically wait till all the necessary fields are  
supplied. However, after the file has been autofiled it won't do it  
again automatically, and you'll have to do it manually.

Christiaan


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[Bibdesk-users] Renaming files used with AutoFile

2008-11-02 Thread Christian
Hi,

I am using AutoFile with the Option "File papers in a fixed location".  
This location is set to ~/Documents/Papers. "File papers  
automatically" is set. My Local File Format is set to custom with "%b/ 
%f{Cite Key}%n0%e".
For general purpose the AutoFile works excellent and when I finished  
set up an entry and drag the pdf to the editor window the pdf is  
correctly renamed and filed to the right directory.

But would it be possible the rename the file automatically when the  
cite-key changes or when the file is draged before a cite-key exists?

Thanks in advance
Christian

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