Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web of Science not working?
Dear Johan, The answer to this is twofold: 1) Thomson Reuters have changed their services as of Aug. 31st 2012, AFAIK worldwide. Often without informing their clients. The change of service means a new version of the software, but also a split in the kind of services. One of the services is the premium WokSearch, comparable to what we all could enjoy before Aug 2012. The other is WokSearchLite, a considerably lower service level, to which many institutional subscriptions have now fallen subject to, it seems. 2) BibDesk was quickly updated to the new version, but only for the premium service. Colin A. Smith who did that has promised to do it for WokSearchLite too, but didn't have the time yet (perhaps also since his institution has the premium service ;-) ). From this follows two things IMHO: a) One should step on the toes of Thomson Reuters and complain about their behavior. They have done all this in a most customer unfriendly manner that has put off many, many users AFAIK. Unilaterally making such deep cutting decisions without properly consulting clients, let alone warning and/or properly informing them, is IMHO a misuse of a nearly-monopolistic position. b) You could nag one owns institutional library to upgrade to the premium WokSearch level. I know there are some costs involved, but unfortunately TR has created these facts without batting an eyelash nor shifting their ground the slightest bit since last summer. Of course you might argue, why not adding the ability to BibDesk to also support WokSearchLite? However, the welcome that stopgap is for many users, me one of them, it is not really what most of us need, since the information you can access via WokSearchLite is very limited. E.g. no doi, no abstracts etc. BTW, of course you can always search in the browser, download those files and import them into BibDesk. But the real strength of BibDesk was the ability to avoid all these cumbersome steps and to directly search, read abstracts, decide what to import, run AppleScripts via hooks when this really happens etc. An entire suit of facilities that changed my workflow considerably. All disrupted now, since Switzerland has not yet decided how to go about this contract with Thomson Reuters (yes, this has to be done at the national level, unfortunately, and TR is obviously using this opportunity to squeeze out more money from our universities, sic). All what we have at the moment is WokSearchLite only and for that BibDesk can't access the information. And pubmed, still working in this wonderful way, is no replacement for a natural scientist like me. Hope this helps to understand the situation better. Regards, Andreas ETH Zurich Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology CHN E 21.1 Universitaetstrasse 16 8092 Zurich SWITZERLAND andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.chmailto:andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch www.sysecol.ethz.chhttp://www.sysecol.ethz.ch +41 44 633-6090 phone +41 44 633-1136 fax +41 79 595-4050 mobile Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! On 12/02/2013, at 09:35 , Johan Ekh wrote: Hi all, I'm new to Bibdesk. I'm trying to search for papers using Web of Science from within Bibdesk but it does not work. The search continues for a second and then a small triangle appears. No papers are found. When I search with PubMed everything works fine. I've searched and found some discussions on this topic a few months ago, but I did not find a solution. Is there a solution now? BR / Johan -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web of Science not working?
Ok, thanks! Is there any way I can search for papers available from ScienceDirect from within Bibdesk? Johan On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:35, Johan Ekh wrote: Hi all, I'm new to Bibdesk. I'm trying to search for papers using Web of Science from within Bibdesk but it does not work. The search continues for a second and then a small triangle appears. No papers are found. When I search with PubMed everything works fine. I've searched and found some discussions on this topic a few months ago, but I did not find a solution. Is there a solution now? BR / Johan There was some solution, but it does not seem to work for all situations. I cannot say much more, because I don't know anything about SOAP and WoS myself. There is still an open bug report for this. Christiaan -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web of Science not working?
Sorry for answering my own question, but of course I only needed to supply the the correct web address to the built-in browser, search and then export in bibtex format and finally import into bibdesk. Silly question but I'm new to BibDesk… Johan On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Johan Ekh e...@kth.se wrote: Ok, thanks! Is there any way I can search for papers available from ScienceDirect from within Bibdesk? Johan On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:35, Johan Ekh wrote: Hi all, I'm new to Bibdesk. I'm trying to search for papers using Web of Science from within Bibdesk but it does not work. The search continues for a second and then a small triangle appears. No papers are found. When I search with PubMed everything works fine. I've searched and found some discussions on this topic a few months ago, but I did not find a solution. Is there a solution now? BR / Johan There was some solution, but it does not seem to work for all situations. I cannot say much more, because I don't know anything about SOAP and WoS myself. There is still an open bug report for this. Christiaan -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
[Bibdesk-users] Web of Science not working?
Hi all, I'm new to Bibdesk. I'm trying to search for papers using Web of Science from within Bibdesk but it does not work. The search continues for a second and then a small triangle appears. No papers are found. When I search with PubMed everything works fine. I've searched and found some discussions on this topic a few months ago, but I did not find a solution. Is there a solution now? BR / Johan -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
Re: [Bibdesk-users] Web of Science not working?
On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:35, Johan Ekh wrote: Hi all, I'm new to Bibdesk. I'm trying to search for papers using Web of Science from within Bibdesk but it does not work. The search continues for a second and then a small triangle appears. No papers are found. When I search with PubMed everything works fine. I've searched and found some discussions on this topic a few months ago, but I did not find a solution. Is there a solution now? BR / Johan There was some solution, but it does not seem to work for all situations. I cannot say much more, because I don't know anything about SOAP and WoS myself. There is still an open bug report for this. Christiaan -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
