loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
Hi,

I can see in my secondary DNS server a lot of logs with query(cache) denied
from the same ip.
I've traceroute one of them which seems to be a russian computer.


 * *
17  ns1.orlan-net.ru (195.68.176.4)  136.563 ms * *


Feb 11 00:21:49 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#59934: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:49 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#23591: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:53 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#54430: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:53 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#46875: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:55 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#43603: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:56 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#27124: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#14844: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#11936: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#5777: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#64647: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#41115: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:58 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#6712: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:59 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#38402: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:21:59 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#59205: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:01 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#36863: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:02 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#51511: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#50013: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#43818: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:03 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.134#10674: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:05 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#61345: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:05 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#5707: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#53811: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#53504: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:06 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.235#24805: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:07 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#50225: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:08 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#27039: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:08 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#47331: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#53740: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 195.68.176.4#53988: query (cache)
'./NS/IN'
denied

Feb 11 00:22:12 ns1 named[13392]: client 62.193.206.133#1995: query (cache)
'le-droit-de-lenfance.com/A/IN' denied


Is it a misconfiguration of my dns Server (which passes french nic test
so...) or an attack or something else ?

Is there anything I should do ?

Regards,
Thomas.
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

Please go read the list achives.

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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

In message f43eb7e60902101552l524787b1t72fcc821437af...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma
s Manson writes:
 

The subject matter has been discussed in lots of detail
over the last month.  Go read the archives of the mailing
list.

Mark
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?)

equivalent : google is your friend, search the RFCs

Then... read the list archives... I guess I can spend the next ten years if
I read it from the beginning

Could you give any clue of what to look for ?

I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you usually
get some help... isn't it ?

Thomas.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:52, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.comwrote:

 


 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:51, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:


Please go read the list achives.

Mark
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 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
 PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org



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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Mark Andrews

In message f43eb7e60902101621y66133c17lc46a1df451f1b...@mail.gmail.com, Thoma
s Manson writes:
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 That's some awesome answer... (did you get helped to elaborate it?)
 
 equivalent : google is your friend, search the RFCs

Feeding the error message into Google would have given you
lots of relevent information.

query (cache) './NS/IN' denied

I didn't want to start yet another debate about what is the
right thing to do.

Mark

 Then... read the list archives... I guess I can spend the next ten years if
 I read it from the beginning
 
 Could you give any clue of what to look for ?
 
 I believed I was on bind mailing list, a mailing list is where you usually
 get some help... isn't it ?
 
 Thomas.
 
 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:52, Thomas Manson dev.mansontho...@gmail.comwrot
 e:
 
  
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 00:51, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:
 
 
 Please go read the list achives.
 
 Mark
  --
  Mark Andrews, ISC
  1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
  PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org
 
 
 
 
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Re: loads of Query denied... is it an attack or a misconfiguration ?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Manson
someone answers me,

you could just have say search reflector DoS attack in the archive list,
this would have narrow down a lot my research.

I'll temporray block the ip on my firewall

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 01:21, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:


 In message f43eb7e60902101552l524787b1t72fcc821437af...@mail.gmail.com,
 Thoma
 s Manson writes:
  

The subject matter has been discussed in lots of detail
over the last month.  Go read the archives of the mailing
list.

Mark
 --
 Mark Andrews, ISC
 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
 PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: mark_andr...@isc.org

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