Re: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Chris Buxton
On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Balanagaraju Munukutla wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> How to Disable the BIND version query feature in BIND 9.2.1. 
> 
> This is a bindvrs Vulnerability. 

This is not a vulnerability, it's a feature. The vulnerability relates to 
running BIND 9.2.1 - there are several very serious security issues with BIND 
9.2.x. Update to something current.

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Re: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Kevin Darcy

Hiding your version accomplishes little.

a) attackers can using "fingerprinting" technology to determine your 
BIND version even if you obscure it
b) attackers can just brute force all of the known attacks in the hopes 
that you're vulnerable to at least one of them


The real solution is to upgrade to a version that's not vulnerable.


  - Kevin

Balanagaraju Munukutla wrote:


Hi

How to Disable the BIND version query feature in BIND 9.2.1.

This is a bindvrs Vulnerability.

Thanks & Regards
Nagaraj


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RE: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Sometimes you have to do things like hiding your version just because it
came up on the security audit.  It's a lot easier to make them shut up
by doing what they want than by explaining to them that what they want
is meaningless.

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Hiding your version accomplishes little.

a) attackers can using "fingerprinting" technology to determine your 
BIND version even if you obscure it
b) attackers can just brute force all of the known attacks in the hopes 
that you're vulnerable to at least one of them

The real solution is to upgrade to a version that's not vulnerable.

 

   - Kevin
Balanagaraju Munukutla wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> How to Disable the BIND version query feature in BIND 9.2.1.
>
> This is a bindvrs Vulnerability.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Nagaraj
>

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Re: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Alan Clegg
Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> Sometimes you have to do things like hiding your version just because it
> came up on the security audit.  It's a lot easier to make them shut up
> by doing what they want than by explaining to them that what they want
> is meaningless.

That said, if your "security audit" allows you to run BIND 9.2 then it's
a complete waste of time anyway and that fact should be brought to
someone's attention.

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RE: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Lightner, Jeff
Well maybe...

As has been noted before folks like RedHat use a base BIND version then
backport security and bug fixes into it.   The OP didn't say what he was
running on.   I don't know that there are any supported RHEL versions
that use 9.2 but also don't know that there aren't.

In fact our security audits routinely flag some RedHat things because
they look only at the base package version and not the extended
versioning RedHat uses for such backported packages.   For BIND blocking
the version keeps the auditors from asking the question since they don't
know base version let alone extended version.

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Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> Sometimes you have to do things like hiding your version just because
it
> came up on the security audit.  It's a lot easier to make them shut up
> by doing what they want than by explaining to them that what they want
> is meaningless.

That said, if your "security audit" allows you to run BIND 9.2 then it's
a complete waste of time anyway and that fact should be brought to
someone's attention.

AlanC
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Re: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Audrey Beach
Nagaraj
One way to is to make a change in the named.conf. see below.  This will
output what you supply instead of the version number.


change in named.conf

options {

  version "Confidential";
};


Hope this is what you were looking for.
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Kevin Darcy  wrote:

> Hiding your version accomplishes little.
>
> a) attackers can using "fingerprinting" technology to determine your BIND
> version even if you obscure it
> b) attackers can just brute force all of the known attacks in the hopes
> that you're vulnerable to at least one of them
>
> The real solution is to upgrade to a version that's not vulnerable.
>
>
>  - Kevin
> Balanagaraju Munukutla wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> How to Disable the BIND version query feature in BIND 9.2.1.
>>
>> This is a bindvrs Vulnerability.
>>
>> Thanks & Regards
>> Nagaraj
>> 
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file descriptor limits eating my lunch

2010-01-12 Thread Patrick Larkin Jr


I've been running BIND 9.4.2-P2 since shortly after
it came out.  I'm on Solaris 10, and two of my 6
machines are complaining about too many open
file descriptors.  I've searched here, and around
and here is what I know:

running 'pfiles' on named on the two complaining
show 1023 files the happy ones are showing less
than that.  This tells me there's a limit of 1024
somewhere.

Looking at my system's ulimits, (and experimenting)
it appears the default is 65536, but just confirm
that, I put set rlim_fd_cur=2048 into /etc/system,
rebooted, and ulimit reflected the change.  But
alas, pfiles still only shows 1023.

Doublechecking named.conf, I have had this forever:
files unlimited;

I see mentions of 'FD_SETSIZE' in the source, but I
can't figure out how to see what it is set for in my build,
nor really how to change it.

Where else could named be limited to 1024 that I'm missing?
Thanks!

P.S.  I built it on a generic build machine, and run it
on dedicated DNS caching resolver machines, if that makes a diff.

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   Earthlink Core Services Engineering
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Re: file descriptor limits eating my lunch

2010-01-12 Thread Chris Thompson

On Jan 12 2010, Patrick Larkin Jr wrote:


I've been running BIND 9.4.2-P2 since shortly after
it came out.  I'm on Solaris 10, 


With that combination, you would be much better off running 
9.4.3 or later (at least 9.4.3-P3 for security reasons if 
you have to stick to 9.4.x). This will use poll(2) rather

than select(3c) and get you away from the whole ghastly
FD_SETSIZE mess, which is almost certainly the cause of
your problems:


 and two of my 6
machines are complaining about too many open
file descriptors.  I've searched here, and around
and here is what I know:

running 'pfiles' on named on the two complaining
show 1023 files the happy ones are showing less
than that.  This tells me there's a limit of 1024
somewhere.

[... rest snipped ...]

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Re: bindvrs Vulnerability

2010-01-12 Thread Niobos

On 12 Jan 2010, at 17:15, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

 For BIND blocking
the version keeps the auditors from asking the question since they  
don't

know base version let alone extended version.

Which tells more about the auditors than about the feature to do so

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