RE: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Ian Tait
 

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Subject: Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

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Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there is
no DNS server than can stop you from 
browsing what you want.

Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the correct
website.

You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
fashion, by IP address.

Ian

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Re: AXFR partially timed out

2010-10-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
  I have a very strange problem with AXFR. We are using a master and a
  secondary DNS Server with an internal and an external view. Depending
  on the source address the secondary server will get the internal or
  external view for zone transfer.
  
  Everything is working correct so far except only one specific zone file
  won't get transferred. In the external view there are about 70 zones
  defined. Every zone will get transferred except one and only one won't.
  Therefor there can't be a problem with the firewall.
  
  Then I scaled down the seconday DNS server to just about 2 zones and
  again: this specific zone file won't get transfered even the master
  said AXFR started and AXFR ended for this particular zone. On
  the secondary server I'll get giving up: timed out.
 
  Is the problem zone larger than the ones that are not a problem?  If so 
  it may be a MTU problem, or even a firewall that does things differently 
  based on packet sizes.

On 11.10.10 23:11, Beat Jucker wrote:
 Indeed the trouble zone is about double the size of other zones. 
 Both DNS servers are Solaris boxes and comunicate by plain TCP (no VPN).
 How can I check for MTU problem and how can I influence it?
 
 When I ask for the zone by dig utility everything is ok but not
 when the zone get requested by named ... head scraping ...

well, try in the following order:

dig +notcp

dig +tcp

dig +notcp +bufsize=1480

dig +notcp +bufsize=1500

dig +notcp +bufsize=4096

that may tell you something...

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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris)
Hello Ian,


Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:54:19 +0100 Ian Tait wrote:

 Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there
 is no DNS server than can stop you from browsing what you want.
 
 Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
 address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the
 correct website.
 
 You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
 fashion, by IP address.

If you know the website domain and the corresponding IP address and if
your ISP prevents you from accessing this website by timing out or
tampering DNS query results you can always put the entry like

192.168.10.20   www.domain.tld.

to your hosts file and access the site.

This technique is also in use when someone needs to access the site
which is on a not delegated domains.


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Yours sincerely,

Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) http://www.andris.name/
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testing bounces please ignore

2010-10-12 Thread donovan jeffrey j
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Re: AXFR partially timed out

2010-10-12 Thread Dave Sparro

On 10/11/2010 5:11 PM, Beat Jucker wrote:

Is the problem zone larger than the ones that are not a problem?  If so
it may be a MTU problem, or even a firewall that does things differently
based on packet sizes.


Indeed the trouble zone is about double the size of other zones.
Both DNS servers are Solaris boxes and comunicate by plain TCP (no VPN).
How can I check for MTU problem and how can I influence it?


look at:
man ifconfig

try setting the MTU to 1200 to see if the results are different.

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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Alans

On 10/12/2010 03:44 PM, Andrey G. Sergeev (AKA Andris) wrote:

Hello Ian,


Tue, 12 Oct 2010 10:54:19 +0100 Ian Tait wrote:


Ok, but you can always browse by IP address and in this case there
is no DNS server than can stop you from browsing what you want.


Vaguely related, are host headers - a lot of webservers share an IP
address/many IP addresses and use host headers to 'display' the
correct website.

You wouldn't be able to browse a particular website hosted in this
fashion, by IP address.


If you know the website domain and the corresponding IP address and if
your ISP prevents you from accessing this website by timing out or
tampering DNS query results you can always put the entry like

192.168.10.20   www.domain.tld.

to your hosts file and access the site.

This technique is also in use when someone needs to access the site
which is on a not delegated domains.


Even this way, you should know all the IP of subdomains to work 
properly. Try it for facebook, open homepage fine but once you login it 
will fail.
Another thing, we are talking about a technical person, for other users 
they don't know about hosts file or they don't have access to change it 
even it they know about it.


regards.
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Re: Bind and blacklist IP file

2010-10-12 Thread Sam Wilson
In article mailman.447.1286891555.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Alans alans...@gmail.com wrote:

 [ Norwegian Gov vs ISPs, banning domains, and inserting local host
entries to subvert such a ban ]

 Even this way, you should know all the IP of subdomains to work 
 properly. Try it for facebook, open homepage fine but once you login it 
 will fail.
 Another thing, we are talking about a technical person, for other users 
 they don't know about hosts file or they don't have access to change it 
 even it they know about it.

So there's a market opportunity for someone with half a clue to help out 
his friends.

Sam
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