Re: host unreachable, but i can ping it

2011-01-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.01.11 12:54, Jay G. Scott wrote:
 i get, and have always gotten, billions of these messages.
 
 Jan  2 07:37:43 ns2 named[3028]: client 10.4.1.6#33823: view internal: error 
 sending response: host unreachable
 
 the story is that these are the results of attempted zone transfers.

apparently client tries access your server from host behind firewall, that
will allow to send request, but not to receive response. Invalid, but
apparently quite common FW configuration.

Another possibility is that someone is sending requests with fake source IP
10.4.1.6.

dumping traffic between your server and 10.4.1.6 would tell you more.

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Re: check the master/slave status

2011-01-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.01.11 12:08, blr maani wrote:
 You can develop scripts to do the following:
 
 Develop script(s) and run on a host which has access to both Master(s) and
 Slave(s). The script should do the following:
 
 1. For each zones, check serial number on both master(s) and slave(s) for
 the zone and compare it. Report mismatch if any.
 2. If you want to compare the zone contents as well  (assuming you don't
 trust just the serial numbers), then you can get zone contents via dig AXFR
 and do a diff and report diff if any.

note that there can be mismatch for a while when you change a zone on the
master. The slave needs take some time to fetch the zone and update it...

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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread Jay G. Scott

hi,

thanks for the replies.  however, i didn't learn much.  i'm more of
a network newbie than i thought.

but what i can say is this:

(repeating the problem)
i get zillions of these msgs:
Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
sending response: host unreachable

i CAN do an AXFR from 10.4.1.6 to ns2
that is,
dig @10.4.1.6 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
does give me output.

on 10.4.1.6,
dig @146.6.211.1 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 
arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
; Transfer failed.

now, when i attempt that AXFR, the error message is NOT like
the symptom i have.

so i conclude that my problem is not AXFR (or IXFR, similar experiment).

so what is this msg talking about?
Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
sending response: host unreachable

i'm starting to think it might be just an ordinary dns lookup.

j.

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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread Lyle Giese
Jay G. Scott wrote:
 hi,

 thanks for the replies.  however, i didn't learn much.  i'm more of
 a network newbie than i thought.

 but what i can say is this:

 (repeating the problem)
 i get zillions of these msgs:
 Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
 sending response: host unreachable

 i CAN do an AXFR from 10.4.1.6 to ns2
 that is,
 dig @10.4.1.6 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
 does give me output.

 on 10.4.1.6,
 dig @146.6.211.1 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR

 ;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 
 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ; Transfer failed.

 now, when i attempt that AXFR, the error message is NOT like
 the symptom i have.

 so i conclude that my problem is not AXFR (or IXFR, similar experiment).

 so what is this msg talking about?
 Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
 sending response: host unreachable

 i'm starting to think it might be just an ordinary dns lookup.

 j.

   
Jay
Please do the following two queries from the secondary server and show
us the results:

dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu

dig @146.6.211.1 -tcp arlut.utexas.edu

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.

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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread Jay G. Scott
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Jay G. Scott wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 thanks for the replies.  however, i didn't learn much.  i'm more of
 a network newbie than i thought.
 
 but what i can say is this:
 
 (repeating the problem)
 i get zillions of these msgs:
 Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
 sending response: host unreachable
 
 i CAN do an AXFR from 10.4.1.6 to ns2
 that is,
 dig @10.4.1.6 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
 does give me output.
 
 on 10.4.1.6,
 dig @146.6.211.1 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
 
 ;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 
 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ; Transfer failed.
 
 now, when i attempt that AXFR, the error message is NOT like
 the symptom i have.
 
 so i conclude that my problem is not AXFR (or IXFR, similar experiment).
 
 so what is this msg talking about?
 Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
 sending response: host unreachable
 
 i'm starting to think it might be just an ordinary dns lookup.

heh.  no.  of course not.  suddenly realized that i could test
that, and, no, that's not it.

so what could it be?

j.

 
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stale cache in alternate views?

2011-01-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
I'm using bind-9.5.1-P3 (yes, I know it's old).  I have a zone in 
multiple views.  When I update the zone and reload, the match-clients 
{ any } view sees new DNS records right away, but another view 
doesn't see them for a while.

Given this configuration:

view global {
match-clients { any; };

zone example.net {
type slave;
file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
masters {a.b.c.d;};
};
};

view full {
match-clients { a.b.c.0/24; 127.0.0.1; };

zone example.net {
type slave;
file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
masters {a.b.c.d;};
};
};

If a client in the a.b.c.0/24 subnet queries the server, it doesn't 
see recently added DNS records.  If a client outside a.b.c.0/24 does 
the same query, it sees the new records immediately after the rndc 
reload.

Anyone know how to change this behavior?

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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread Jay G. Scott
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:52:16PM -0600, Lyle Giese wrote:
[snip]
 Jay
 Please do the following two queries from the secondary server and show
 us the results:
 
 dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu
 
 dig @146.6.211.1 -tcp arlut.utexas.edu
 
 Lyle Giese
 LCR Computer Services, Inc.

okay.  but it doesn't seem to like -tcp as an arg.
thanks for helping.

[r...@ns5 ~]# dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 +tcp 
arlut.utexas.edu
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15938
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;arlut.utexas.edu.  IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
arlut.utexas.edu.   300 IN  SOA csdsun9.arlut.utexas.edu. 
root.arlut.utexas.edu. 2011011010 10800 600 604800 300

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 146.6.211.1#53(146.6.211.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 10 14:49:55 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 83

---


[r...@ns5 ~]# dig @146.6.211.1 -tcp arlut.utexas.edu
;; Warning, ignoring invalid type cp

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 -tcp 
arlut.utexas.edu
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23674
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;arlut.utexas.edu.  IN  A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
arlut.utexas.edu.   300 IN  SOA csdsun9.arlut.utexas.edu. 
root.arlut.utexas.edu. 2011011010 10800 600 604800 300

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 146.6.211.1#53(146.6.211.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 10 14:50:27 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 83


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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread Lyle Giese
sorry about that. I don't normally use these options But it's

dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu
dig @146.6.211.1 +notcp arlut.utexas.edu

But UDP is default and the second query should have been transmitted
using UDP. The end result is that you have TCP and UDP port 53 openned
properly in the firewalls between the two sites. BTW, zone transfers are
done using TCP because of their size. Small queries try to use UDP first.

This is starting to sound more like the master is not allowing your site
to get a zone transfer. That is an ACL issue for the master site.

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.

Jay G. Scott wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:52:16PM -0600, Lyle Giese wrote:
 [snip]
   
 Jay
 Please do the following two queries from the secondary server and show
 us the results:

 dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu

 dig @146.6.211.1 -tcp arlut.utexas.edu

 Lyle Giese
 LCR Computer Services, Inc.
 

 okay.  but it doesn't seem to like -tcp as an arg.
 thanks for helping.

 [r...@ns5 ~]# dig @146.6.211.1 +tcp arlut.utexas.edu

 ;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 +tcp 
 arlut.utexas.edu
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15938
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;arlut.utexas.edu.  IN  A

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 arlut.utexas.edu.   300 IN  SOA csdsun9.arlut.utexas.edu. 
 root.arlut.utexas.edu. 2011011010 10800 600 604800 300

 ;; Query time: 0 msec
 ;; SERVER: 146.6.211.1#53(146.6.211.1)
 ;; WHEN: Mon Jan 10 14:49:55 2011
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 83

 ---


 [r...@ns5 ~]# dig @146.6.211.1 -tcp arlut.utexas.edu
 ;; Warning, ignoring invalid type cp

 ;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 -tcp 
 arlut.utexas.edu
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23674
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;arlut.utexas.edu.  IN  A

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 arlut.utexas.edu.   300 IN  SOA csdsun9.arlut.utexas.edu. 
 root.arlut.utexas.edu. 2011011010 10800 600 604800 300

 ;; Query time: 0 msec
 ;; SERVER: 146.6.211.1#53(146.6.211.1)
 ;; WHEN: Mon Jan 10 14:50:27 2011
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 83


   

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Re: stale cache in alternate views?

2011-01-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
It was pointed out to me that order of views matters, and indeed I do 
have the correct order in my config--I just pasted it out of order in 
my original email.  Here is the corrected version where I still have 
this problem.

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 03:09:40PM -0500, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 I'm using bind-9.5.1-P3 (yes, I know it's old).  I have a zone in 
 multiple views.  When I update the zone and reload, the match-clients 
 { any } view sees new DNS records right away, but another view 
 doesn't see them for a while.

Given this configuration:

view full {
match-clients { a.b.c.0/24; 127.0.0.1; };

zone example.net {
type slave;
file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
masters {a.b.c.d;};
};
};
view global {
match-clients { any; };

zone example.net {
type slave;
file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
masters {a.b.c.d;};
};
};

 If a client in the a.b.c.0/24 subnet queries the server, it doesn't 
 see recently added DNS records.  If a client outside a.b.c.0/24 does 
 the same query, it sees the new records immediately after the rndc 
 reload.
 
 Anyone know how to change this behavior?
 
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Re: stale cache in alternate views?

2011-01-10 Thread Mark Andrews

The NOTIFY message is only going to one view (external).  The simple
solution is to have the internal view transfer the zone from the
external view.  I posted how to do this within the last month so
check the archives for examples.

Mark

In message 20110110200940.gn28...@angus.ind.wpi.edu, Chuck Anderson writes:
 I'm using bind-9.5.1-P3 (yes, I know it's old).  I have a zone in 
 multiple views.  When I update the zone and reload, the match-clients 
 { any } view sees new DNS records right away, but another view 
 doesn't see them for a while.
 
 Given this configuration:
 
 view global {
 match-clients { any; };
 
 zone example.net {
 type slave;
 file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
 masters {a.b.c.d;};
 };
 };
 
 view full {
 match-clients { a.b.c.0/24; 127.0.0.1; };
 
 zone example.net {
 type slave;
 file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
 masters {a.b.c.d;};
 };
 };
 
 If a client in the a.b.c.0/24 subnet queries the server, it doesn't 
 see recently added DNS records.  If a client outside a.b.c.0/24 does 
 the same query, it sees the new records immediately after the rndc 
 reload.
 
 Anyone know how to change this behavior?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: host unreachable. -- a bit more info

2011-01-10 Thread David Sparro

On 1/10/2011 2:04 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote:

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:41:48PM -0600, Jay G. Scott wrote:


hi,

thanks for the replies.  however, i didn't learn much.  i'm more of
a network newbie than i thought.

but what i can say is this:

(repeating the problem)
i get zillions of these msgs:
Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
sending response: host unreachable

i CAN do an AXFR from 10.4.1.6 to ns2
that is,
dig @10.4.1.6 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
does give me output.

on 10.4.1.6,
dig @146.6.211.1 arlut.utexas.edu AXFR

;  DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_5.3  @146.6.211.1 
arlut.utexas.edu AXFR
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
; Transfer failed.

now, when i attempt that AXFR, the error message is NOT like
the symptom i have.

so i conclude that my problem is not AXFR (or IXFR, similar experiment).

so what is this msg talking about?
Jan 10 12:36:24 ns2 named[3037]: client 10.4.1.6#59926: view internal: error 
sending response: host unreachable

i'm starting to think it might be just an ordinary dns lookup.


heh.  no.  of course not.  suddenly realized that i could test
that, and, no, that's not it.

so what could it be?



If you're getting normal DNS queries from that IP (as well as the zone 
transfers), and there is a stateful firewall in front of it, it could 
still be ordinary queries that end up timing out when your server 
attempts to get an answer from the Internet.   The problem would be that 
the state table entry in the firewall times out faster that BIND gives 
up on a query, so by the time your server sends the failure response, 
the firewall has already aged out that connection and blocks the answer.


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Re: stale cache in alternate views?

2011-01-10 Thread Barry Margolin
Also, you should NOT use the same filename for slave zones in different 
views.

In article mailman.1305.1294698399.555.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:

 The NOTIFY message is only going to one view (external).  The simple
 solution is to have the internal view transfer the zone from the
 external view.  I posted how to do this within the last month so
 check the archives for examples.
 
 Mark
 
 In message 20110110200940.gn28...@angus.ind.wpi.edu, Chuck Anderson writes:
  I'm using bind-9.5.1-P3 (yes, I know it's old).  I have a zone in 
  multiple views.  When I update the zone and reload, the match-clients 
  { any } view sees new DNS records right away, but another view 
  doesn't see them for a while.
  
  Given this configuration:
  
  view global {
  match-clients { any; };
  
  zone example.net {
  type slave;
  file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
  masters {a.b.c.d;};
  };
  };
  
  view full {
  match-clients { a.b.c.0/24; 127.0.0.1; };
  
  zone example.net {
  type slave;
  file /var/named/slaves/example.net.zone;
  masters {a.b.c.d;};
  };
  };
  
  If a client in the a.b.c.0/24 subnet queries the server, it doesn't 
  see recently added DNS records.  If a client outside a.b.c.0/24 does 
  the same query, it sees the new records immediately after the rndc 
  reload.
  
  Anyone know how to change this behavior?
  
  Thanks.
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