Re: client ... query (cache) './NS/IN' denied:

2011-08-18 Thread Feng He
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Shawn Bakhtiar  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> For the first time my primary name server is not reporting any more
>
> client XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX query (cache) './NS/IN' denied: 1 Time(s)
>

This is a DNS attacking.
Many DNS Servers are meeting this kind of attack each day here.
The traffic is huge, once I noticed the traffic to one of my NS host is 1.6G.
It's a DDoS that will make your DNS can't serve at all.

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Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

2011-08-18 Thread Warren Kumari

On Aug 18, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

> No but you're missing the point.   I don't think the OP was and I certainly 
> wasn't suggesting it should have done what he "meant" to do.   

Nah, I was just referring you your 'If I typed "las" instead of "ls" on a 
command line and found out that "las" meant "lose all systems"...' comment -- 
with DWIM it would "helpfully" try and find something that it though you meant, 
and, when I used it, would basically always choose something bad...  I really 
wasn't promoting this approach (and think we are in violent agreement) -- I 
probably missed a smily in my response...
> However, I DO think it should have errored out because it was invalid input.  
>  

Yah...

W
> (That is to say unless you think negative numbers should be considered valid 
> input for this command? Please don't respond that negative numbers are 
> integers and therefore valid - that would be pure sophistry.)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Warren Kumari [mailto:war...@kumari.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:26 PM
> To: Lightner, Jeff
> Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers
> 
> 
> On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
> 
>> It was certainly a typo and a user error in that regard.
>> 
>> However, he was suggesting it was bug because it should have rejected input 
>> of negative numbers and I'll have to say I agree with that viewpoint.   If I 
>> typed "las" instead of "ls" on a command line and found out that "las" meant 
>> "lose all systems" I'd certainly feel whoever had created such a program 
>> should have put some safeguards in to keep it from doing something so 
>> ridiculous.
> 
> Ever work with Warren Teitelman?
> 
> http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/DWIM
> 
> W
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org 
>> [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
>> /dev/rob0
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:59 PM
>> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
>> Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 04:45:38PM -0400, bl ton wrote:
>>> We had a syntax error in our inverse zone file using GENERATE and
>>> extra dash were added to the scope so '199--222' instead of
>>> '199-222':
>>> 
>>> $GENERATE 199--222 $ PTR 10-100-60-$.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
>> 
>> Ouch! Sorry to hear this!
>> 
>>> I would assume named will check the syntax error and refuse to load
>>> this zone just like it normally does, but instead it tries to
>>> generate millions of erroneous entry because it scanned '-222' to
>>> the stop which created a huge number for the named to loop through
>>> and the CPU at 100% and locked up 15 of our nameservers, some of
>>> those need power recycle to respond to console.
>>> 
>>> This is the first bug of that type we have seen, it's my 12th year
>>> of running BIND for large site, another team member has nearly 20
>>> years experience with BIND and we're surprised named doesn't catch
>>> the syntax error.
>>> 
>>> Should a syntax error in inverse zone file cause named to locking
>>> up the machine?
>> 
>> You're calling this a bug and a syntax error. I disagree. I'd call
>> this a typo and a user error.
>> 
>>> But there is checking in forward file and same syntax error were
>>> caught:
>>> 
>>> Aug 16 19:09:19 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 19:09:19.609
>>> general: error: dns_rdata_fromtext: buffer-0x42200470 : near
>>> '10.100.60.256': bad dotted quad
>>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>>> general: error: $GENERATE: Domain/test.example.edu:1496: bad
>>> dotted quad
>>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>>> general: error: zone test.example.edu/IN: loading from master
>>> file Domain/test.example.edufailed: bad dotted quad
>> 
>> It's not the same error. You can create PTR names and values of
>> anything you want. But the value for an A record is limited to the
>> set of valid IPv4 addresses. Note that your A $GENERATE was quite
>> happy until it reached 256.
>> 
>> 4294967295.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.  IN  PTR 
>> 10-100-60-4294967295.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
>> -222.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.IN  PTR 
>> 10-100-60--222.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
>> 
>> Those are both valid, as was the entire $GENERATE range.
>> 
>> 10-100-60-255.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.255
>> 10-100-60-256.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.256
>> 
>> First one is valid, second one is not.
>> 
>> That said, I wouldn't have thought that a $GENERATE range could go
>> "over the top" like that, so to speak. I could see calling that a
>> possible bug.
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client ... query (cache) './NS/IN' denied:

2011-08-18 Thread Shawn Bakhtiar


Hi all, 

For the first time my primary name server is not reporting any more

client XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX query (cache) './NS/IN' denied: 1 Time(s)

I use authfail on it to insert any IP attempting to ssh in, and failing more 
than three times. 

I checked the current blocked IP address from the NS1 (name server), against 
the last list I saved, and this is the diff

> iptables -I INPUT -s 203.116.40.105/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 75.98.70.11/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 202.93.212.37/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 41.222.10.230/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 193.231.27.8/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 75.102.10.231/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 77.222.43.28/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 67.205.103.187/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 173.246.100.44/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 147.102.208.41/32 -j DROP 
> iptables -I INPUT -s 113.31.19.111/32 -j DROP 


It has to be one or several of these IP address that are doing it. My NS2 
(secondary name server) is still doing it. I'm going to upload the entire 3980 
blocked IP's to it, and see if it stops. If it does, the offender has to be 
somewhere in this list. :)

Is there also a good test to check and see if I can / am poisoned?

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

2011-08-18 Thread Evan Hunt

> No but you're missing the point.   I don't think the OP was and I
> certainly wasn't suggesting it should have done what he "meant" to do.
> However, I DO think it should have errored out because it was invalid
> input.   (That is to say unless you think negative numbers should be
> considered valid input for this command? Please don't respond that
> negative numbers are integers and therefore valid - that would be pure
> sophistry.)

Yes, it's a bug.  It's already in our ticketing system and we will fix it.

The problem is in sscanf(), actually -- I hadn't realized this until now,
but according to C99, the %u (unsigned integer) conversion format will
accept a minus sign in the input without any complaint, and silently
convert the result to a large positive number.  This strikes me as
rather bizarre; I would have expected the conversion to fail, but,
shrug.

We'll be adding a better formatting check.  Meantime: exercise caution.

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RE: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

2011-08-18 Thread Lightner, Jeff
No but you're missing the point.   I don't think the OP was and I certainly 
wasn't suggesting it should have done what he "meant" to do.   However, I DO 
think it should have errored out because it was invalid input.   (That is to 
say unless you think negative numbers should be considered valid input for this 
command? Please don't respond that negative numbers are integers and therefore 
valid - that would be pure sophistry.)

-Original Message-
From: Warren Kumari [mailto:war...@kumari.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 1:26 PM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers


On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

> It was certainly a typo and a user error in that regard.
> 
> However, he was suggesting it was bug because it should have rejected input 
> of negative numbers and I'll have to say I agree with that viewpoint.   If I 
> typed "las" instead of "ls" on a command line and found out that "las" meant 
> "lose all systems" I'd certainly feel whoever had created such a program 
> should have put some safeguards in to keep it from doing something so 
> ridiculous.

Ever work with Warren Teitelman?

http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/DWIM

W

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org 
> [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
> /dev/rob0
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:59 PM
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers
> 
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 04:45:38PM -0400, bl ton wrote:
>> We had a syntax error in our inverse zone file using GENERATE and
>> extra dash were added to the scope so '199--222' instead of
>> '199-222':
>> 
>> $GENERATE 199--222 $ PTR 10-100-60-$.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> 
> Ouch! Sorry to hear this!
> 
>> I would assume named will check the syntax error and refuse to load
>> this zone just like it normally does, but instead it tries to
>> generate millions of erroneous entry because it scanned '-222' to
>> the stop which created a huge number for the named to loop through
>> and the CPU at 100% and locked up 15 of our nameservers, some of
>> those need power recycle to respond to console.
>> 
>> This is the first bug of that type we have seen, it's my 12th year
>> of running BIND for large site, another team member has nearly 20
>> years experience with BIND and we're surprised named doesn't catch
>> the syntax error.
>> 
>> Should a syntax error in inverse zone file cause named to locking
>> up the machine?
> 
> You're calling this a bug and a syntax error. I disagree. I'd call
> this a typo and a user error.
> 
>> But there is checking in forward file and same syntax error were
>> caught:
>> 
>> Aug 16 19:09:19 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 19:09:19.609
>> general: error: dns_rdata_fromtext: buffer-0x42200470 : near
>> '10.100.60.256': bad dotted quad
>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>> general: error: $GENERATE: Domain/test.example.edu:1496: bad
>> dotted quad
>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>> general: error: zone test.example.edu/IN: loading from master
>> file Domain/test.example.edufailed: bad dotted quad
> 
> It's not the same error. You can create PTR names and values of
> anything you want. But the value for an A record is limited to the
> set of valid IPv4 addresses. Note that your A $GENERATE was quite
> happy until it reached 256.
> 
> 4294967295.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.  IN  PTR 
> 10-100-60-4294967295.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> -222.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.IN  PTR 
> 10-100-60--222.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> 
> Those are both valid, as was the entire $GENERATE range.
> 
> 10-100-60-255.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.255
> 10-100-60-256.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.256
> 
> First one is valid, second one is not.
> 
> That said, I wouldn't have thought that a $GENERATE range could go
> "over the top" like that, so to speak. I could see calling that a
> possible bug.
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Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

2011-08-18 Thread Warren Kumari

On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:

> It was certainly a typo and a user error in that regard.
> 
> However, he was suggesting it was bug because it should have rejected input 
> of negative numbers and I'll have to say I agree with that viewpoint.   If I 
> typed "las" instead of "ls" on a command line and found out that "las" meant 
> "lose all systems" I'd certainly feel whoever had created such a program 
> should have put some safeguards in to keep it from doing something so 
> ridiculous.

Ever work with Warren Teitelman?

http://www.hacker-dictionary.com/terms/DWIM

W

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org 
> [mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
> /dev/rob0
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:59 PM
> To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
> Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers
> 
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 04:45:38PM -0400, bl ton wrote:
>> We had a syntax error in our inverse zone file using GENERATE and
>> extra dash were added to the scope so '199--222' instead of
>> '199-222':
>> 
>> $GENERATE 199--222 $ PTR 10-100-60-$.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> 
> Ouch! Sorry to hear this!
> 
>> I would assume named will check the syntax error and refuse to load
>> this zone just like it normally does, but instead it tries to
>> generate millions of erroneous entry because it scanned '-222' to
>> the stop which created a huge number for the named to loop through
>> and the CPU at 100% and locked up 15 of our nameservers, some of
>> those need power recycle to respond to console.
>> 
>> This is the first bug of that type we have seen, it's my 12th year
>> of running BIND for large site, another team member has nearly 20
>> years experience with BIND and we're surprised named doesn't catch
>> the syntax error.
>> 
>> Should a syntax error in inverse zone file cause named to locking
>> up the machine?
> 
> You're calling this a bug and a syntax error. I disagree. I'd call
> this a typo and a user error.
> 
>> But there is checking in forward file and same syntax error were
>> caught:
>> 
>> Aug 16 19:09:19 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 19:09:19.609
>> general: error: dns_rdata_fromtext: buffer-0x42200470 : near
>> '10.100.60.256': bad dotted quad
>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>> general: error: $GENERATE: Domain/test.example.edu:1496: bad
>> dotted quad
>> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
>> general: error: zone test.example.edu/IN: loading from master
>> file Domain/test.example.edufailed: bad dotted quad
> 
> It's not the same error. You can create PTR names and values of
> anything you want. But the value for an A record is limited to the
> set of valid IPv4 addresses. Note that your A $GENERATE was quite
> happy until it reached 256.
> 
> 4294967295.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.  IN  PTR 
> 10-100-60-4294967295.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> -222.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.IN  PTR 
> 10-100-60--222.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
> 
> Those are both valid, as was the entire $GENERATE range.
> 
> 10-100-60-255.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.255
> 10-100-60-256.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.256
> 
> First one is valid, second one is not.
> 
> That said, I wouldn't have thought that a $GENERATE range could go
> "over the top" like that, so to speak. I could see calling that a
> possible bug.
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RE: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

2011-08-18 Thread Lightner, Jeff
It was certainly a typo and a user error in that regard.

However, he was suggesting it was bug because it should have rejected input of 
negative numbers and I'll have to say I agree with that viewpoint.   If I typed 
"las" instead of "ls" on a command line and found out that "las" meant "lose 
all systems" I'd certainly feel whoever had created such a program should have 
put some safeguards in to keep it from doing something so ridiculous.





-Original Message-
From: bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
/dev/rob0
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:59 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: syntax error in $GENERATE crashed all nameservers

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 04:45:38PM -0400, bl ton wrote:
> We had a syntax error in our inverse zone file using GENERATE and
> extra dash were added to the scope so '199--222' instead of
> '199-222':
>
> $GENERATE 199--222 $ PTR 10-100-60-$.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.

Ouch! Sorry to hear this!

> I would assume named will check the syntax error and refuse to load
> this zone just like it normally does, but instead it tries to
> generate millions of erroneous entry because it scanned '-222' to
> the stop which created a huge number for the named to loop through
> and the CPU at 100% and locked up 15 of our nameservers, some of
> those need power recycle to respond to console.
>
> This is the first bug of that type we have seen, it's my 12th year
> of running BIND for large site, another team member has nearly 20
> years experience with BIND and we're surprised named doesn't catch
> the syntax error.
>
> Should a syntax error in inverse zone file cause named to locking
> up the machine?

You're calling this a bug and a syntax error. I disagree. I'd call
this a typo and a user error.

> But there is checking in forward file and same syntax error were
> caught:
>
> Aug 16 19:09:19 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 19:09:19.609
> general: error: dns_rdata_fromtext: buffer-0x42200470 : near
> '10.100.60.256': bad dotted quad
> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
> general: error: $GENERATE: Domain/test.example.edu:1496: bad
> dotted quad
> Aug 16 20:00:02 named named[4169]: 16-Aug-2011 22:00:02.649
> general: error: zone test.example.edu/IN: loading from master
> file Domain/test.example.edufailed: bad dotted quad

It's not the same error. You can create PTR names and values of
anything you want. But the value for an A record is limited to the
set of valid IPv4 addresses. Note that your A $GENERATE was quite
happy until it reached 256.

4294967295.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.  IN  PTR 
10-100-60-4294967295.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.
-222.60.100.10.in-addr.arpa.IN  PTR 
10-100-60--222.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.

Those are both valid, as was the entire $GENERATE range.

10-100-60-255.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.255
10-100-60-256.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu.  IN  A   10.100.60.256

First one is valid, second one is not.

That said, I wouldn't have thought that a $GENERATE range could go
"over the top" like that, so to speak. I could see calling that a
possible bug.
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Re: RFC 1918 error clarification

2011-08-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 17.08.11 14:31, Morgan Toal wrote:
I would like to clarify something. I have 14 locations each using a 
private class c address, and a single dns server which I have just 
moved from bind8 to bind9.


I am getting a lot of these:

Aug 17 13:33:13 mail2 named[18610]: client 192.168.16.3#55546: RFC 
1918 response from Internet for 108.21.168.192.in-addr.arpa
Aug 17 13:33:35 mail2 named[18610]: client 192.168.16.3#38729: RFC 
1918 response from Internet for 171.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa


where: 192.168.16.3 is the dns server
and: 192.168.21.108 and 192.168.1.171 are clients on my network

So what I need to do, then, is create a reverse zone file for each of 
my 14 internal subnets and reference these in /etc/named.conf, is 
that correct?


Is there no way I could somehow tell bind to combine all these into a 
single reverse zone file?


you can of course define 168.192.in-addr.arpa and put everything there.

the problem above looks like client with IP 192.168.16.3 asked the 
named on server mail2 for 108.21.168.192.in-addr.arpa and 
171.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa and got the responses from the internet.

You should serve those zones locally...
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RE: rndc: 'addzone' failed: permission denied

2011-08-18 Thread Tony Finch
Frank Bulk  wrote:

> Would be nice if the error output or log would indicate such failures.

Yes, indeed!

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