RE: BIND, DNSSEC & AD

2012-06-29 Thread Marc Lampo
Hello,

 

(not a Bind related question !)

 

Last time I looked at Microsoft documentation I remember having seen that
DNSSEC is for static files only,
*not* for "Active Directory integrated" domains !
If that is still true, I think the question about importing keys is
irrelevant .

 

You would be needing Bind - from 9.7 onwards - for the DNS servers of the
AD domains.
Bind can do the trick (DNSSEC + dynamic updating).

It would be sufficient to share the KSK, ZSK's can be separate (as they
are signed by the then shared KSK).

 

But is the an internal AD domain really an plausible attack vector for
hackers ?

 

Kind regards,

 

Marc Lampo

Security Officer

EURid (for .eu)

 

From: John Williams [mailto:john.1...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 28 June 2012 10:35 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: BIND, DNSSEC & AD

 

I have an environment that hosts a BIND based internet facing domain, call
it abc.com.  I also have an internal Active Directory instance that hosts
a MS based DNS instance called abc.com as well.  Everything works fine
until we decided to implement DNSSEC on Active Directory.

Here is my question, is it possible to integrate the two domains?  Can I
import the BIND DNSSEC keys into MS AD and build DNSSEC into AD using that
method?  Is there better method?  I don't want to have AD DNS be my
forward (Internet) facing application.

Thanks.

JT

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Re: A records in response with CNAME records

2012-06-29 Thread Mark Andrews

Stop spamming the list with essentially the same question.

comp.protocols.dns.bind and bind-us...@isc.org are bi-directionally
gatewayed.

And to answer your question.  No there isn't a switch.

In message <92e42992-d0be-4d53-b0dc-866102a4e...@googlegroups.com>, Srinivas Kr
ishnan writes:
> A lot of times we get responses that look like:
> 
> a.b.c.d CNAME x.y.z
> x.y.z IP  1.1.1.1
> 
> BIND always sends out an additional query as soon as it encounters the CNAME 
> it stops processing and either x.y.z. is in cache or needs another query to r
> espond.
> 
> Is there a setting in BIND to actually use the additional information sent in
>  the response i.e. the IP of x.y.z and not send the additional query. And if 
> yes what is the "option to set" and will it only work if both the label and t
> he alias of the CNAME record were in the same i.e in-bailiwick ?
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Re: CNAME+A record in response

2012-06-29 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/29/2012 07:50 AM, Srinivas Krishnan wrote:

A lot of times we get responses that look like:

FOO.BAR CNAME EXAMPLE.BAR
EXAMPLE.BAR A 1.1.1.1


BIND currently (atleast with the default settings) when it encounters
a CNAME stops processing and checks if EXAMPLE.BAR is in cache or else
sends out another query to resolve it even though the A record in the
packet completes the chain.

Now, is there a setting in BIND to accept the A record or do providers


I'm curious why you want to change this behaviour.
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BIND, DNSSEC & AD

2012-06-29 Thread Carsten Strotmann

Hello JT,

I'm currently working on integrating MS DNSSEC (on Windows 2012) and 
BIND here @ Men & Mice for another customer.


I might have a solution for you, but I need more detail information about 
your setup. I will contact you by E-Mail on Monday (I hope that is not too 
late).


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Re: BIND, DNSSEC & AD

2012-06-29 Thread John Williams
The purpose behind this is not to protect the internal AD DNS from hijacking.  
But rather to allow internal clients to run DNSSEC related queries without 
having to reference external resolvers.

dig +dnssec somedomain


By the way, integrating BIND into AD will not be permitted.  The AD staff will 
not allow that.  That would be ideal though.

Thanks,

JT




 From: Marc Lampo 
To: 'John Williams' ; bind-users@lists.isc.org 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:07 AM
Subject: RE: BIND, DNSSEC & AD
 

Hello,
 
(not a Bind related question !)
 
Last time I looked at Microsoft documentation I remember having seen that 
DNSSEC is for static files only,
*not* for “Active Directoryintegrated” domains !
If that is still true, I think the question about importing keys is irrelevant …
 
You would be needing Bind – from 9.7 onwards – for the DNS servers of the AD 
domains.
Bind can do the trick (DNSSEC + dynamic updating).
It would be sufficient to share the KSK, ZSK’s can be separate (as they are 
signed by the then shared KSK).
 
But is the an internal AD domain really an plausible attack vector for hackers ?
 
Kind regards,
 
Marc Lampo
Security Officer
EURid (for .eu)
 
From:John Williams [mailto:john.1...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 28 June 2012 10:35 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: BIND, DNSSEC & AD
 
I have an environment that hosts a BIND based internet facing domain, call it 
abc.com.  I also have an internal Active Directory instance that hosts a MS 
based DNS instance called abc.com as well.  Everything works fine until we 
decided to implement DNSSEC on Active Directory.

Here is my question, is it possible to integrate the two domains?  Can I import 
the BIND DNSSEC keys into MS AD and build DNSSEC into AD using that method?  Is 
there better method?  I don't want to have AD DNS be my forward (Internet) 
facing application.

Thanks.

JT___
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Corrupt zone transfer

2012-06-29 Thread Danny Horne
Hi all,

I currently run two Bind 9.9.* nameservers (details below), I've just added
a slave zone to the Windows one, the Linux one being the master.  The zone
transferred, however, seems to be corrupt in that when opened in Notepad it
contains what I can only describe as gobbledegook.  The master zone file
was created with Vim if that's any help.

*Master server*
Linux (CentOS)
Bind 9.9.0

*Slave server*
Windows Server 2003 64 Bit
Bind 9.9.1-P1

Thanks for looking
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Re: Corrupt zone transfer

2012-06-29 Thread Lyle Giese

On 06/29/12 10:10, Danny Horne wrote:

Hi all,

I currently run two Bind 9.9.* nameservers (details below), I've just 
added a slave zone to the Windows one, the Linux one being the 
master.  The zone transferred, however, seems to be corrupt in that 
when opened in Notepad it contains what I can only describe as 
gobbledegook.  The master zone file was created with Vim if that's any 
help.


*Master server*
Linux (CentOS)
Bind 9.9.0

*Slave server*
Windows Server 2003 64 Bit
Bind 9.9.1-P1


Try
dig @slave axfr example.com

I bet this will look right.  The slave zone is probably in raw format.

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.

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Re: Corrupt zone transfer

2012-06-29 Thread Danny Horne
Thanks Todd,

Seeing it cleanly when doing that so I guess the zone file itself is ok

On 29 June 2012 16:24, Todd Snyder  wrote:

>  From your slave, if you do
>
> ** **
>
> dig @[master server] zonename AXFR
>
> ** **
>
> Do you get nice text, or garbage?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org [mailto:
> bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] *On Behalf Of *Danny
> Horne
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2012 11:11 AM
> *To:* bind-users@lists.isc.org
> *Subject:* Corrupt zone transfer
>
> ** **
>
> Hi all,
>
> I currently run two Bind 9.9.* nameservers (details below), I've just
> added a slave zone to the Windows one, the Linux one being the master.  The
> zone transferred, however, seems to be corrupt in that when opened in
> Notepad it contains what I can only describe as gobbledegook.  The master
> zone file was created with Vim if that's any help.
>
> *Master server*
> Linux (CentOS)
> Bind 9.9.0
>
> *Slave server*
> Windows Server 2003 64 Bit
> Bind 9.9.1-P1
>
> Thanks for looking
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Re: Corrupt zone transfer

2012-06-29 Thread Tony Finch
Danny Horne  wrote:
>
> I currently run two Bind 9.9.* nameservers (details below), I've just
> added a slave zone to the Windows one, the Linux one being the master. 
> The zone transferred, however, seems to be corrupt in that when opened
> in Notepad it contains what I can only describe as gobbledegook. 

BIND 9.9 stores slave zones in raw format by default. You can get a
standard textual version using
named-compilezone -j -f raw -o outfile zonename infile

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