Re: DNSSEC / Include a subdomain's KSK data, ZSK data or both in parent domain?

2017-12-08 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 07.12.2017 22:33, Douglas C. Stephens wrote:

> My research found that only DS records for the child zone's KSK(s)
> needed to be put into the parent zone.

That's what I thought, thank you for your confirmation.

-Ralph
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RE: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

2017-12-08 Thread Lightner, Jeffrey
When we did it here we setup separate notify-source and transfer-source within 
the views on both the master and the slave.
view "internal" {
match-clients { internaldns; };
notify-source 10.9.9.8.;
transfer-source 10.9.9.8;
allow-transfer { dnsservers; };
...then our zones for internal view
Internaldns acl is one that we specify servers inside our network.
dnsserrvers acl is one that specifies the primary internal facing IP of the 
master and the slave

view "external" {
match-clients { any; };
notify-source 10.9.9.9;
transfer-source 10.0.9.9;
allow-transfer { dswadnsalias; };
...then our zones for external view
any allows external locations to query us (we have recursion turned off)
dswadnsalias  acl is one that specifies the alias IPs on the same NIC as the 
internal facing IP of the master and the slave

The IPs above would be on the master - you'd have separate IPs (but the same 
ACLs) on the slave.

You can create an alias IP on your primary NIC so for example here we have:
eth1 = 10.9.9.8
eth1:1 = 10.0.9.9
(In our config eth0 is the one we use for external facing traffic - eth1 is 
used for internal including zone transfers)




From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Eoin Kim
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 8:05 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

Hi all,

I wonder if anyone can help me find the cause of the problem I am currently 
having. I am testing BIND with two views - internal, external. Everything seems 
okay except for one thing - zone transfer doesn't look happening for reverse 
zone for external view. On my slave server, I can see the following log message:

08-Dec-2017 10:55:59.247 general: info: zone 0.20.172.in-addr.arpa/IN/external: 
refresh: unexpected rcode (NXDOMAIN) from master 192.168.0.7#53 (source 
0.0.0.0#0)

Servers are using TSIG for zone transfer. It looks like zone transfer itself 
working for all other zones except for reverse zone for external view. Could I 
please get help if possible? I am using Debian Jessie and BIND was installed 
from its repository. I am willing to post BIND configurations if needed. Thanks 
a lot.

Eoin Kim
Systems Administrator

RCS Telecommunications
Level 1 - The Annexe
133 Mary Street
Brisbane, QLD, 4000
Office:   07 3228 0843
Mobile: 0419 726 231

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RE: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

2017-12-08 Thread Lightner, Jeffrey
Sorry that 10.0.9.9 should be 10.9.9.9 - i.e. notify-source and transfer-source 
are the same IP within the same view.


From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
Lightner, Jeffrey
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 8:34 AM
To: Eoin Kim; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

When we did it here we setup separate notify-source and transfer-source within 
the views on both the master and the slave.
view "internal" {
match-clients { internaldns; };
notify-source 10.9.9.8.;
transfer-source 10.9.9.8;
allow-transfer { dnsservers; };
...then our zones for internal view
Internaldns acl is one that we specify servers inside our network.
dnsserrvers acl is one that specifies the primary internal facing IP of the 
master and the slave

view "external" {
match-clients { any; };
notify-source 10.9.9.9;
transfer-source 10.0.9.9;
allow-transfer { dswadnsalias; };
...then our zones for external view
any allows external locations to query us (we have recursion turned off)
dswadnsalias  acl is one that specifies the alias IPs on the same NIC as the 
internal facing IP of the master and the slave

The IPs above would be on the master - you'd have separate IPs (but the same 
ACLs) on the slave.

You can create an alias IP on your primary NIC so for example here we have:
eth1 = 10.9.9.8
eth1:1 = 10.0.9.9
(In our config eth0 is the one we use for external facing traffic - eth1 is 
used for internal including zone transfers)


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Re: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

2017-12-08 Thread Eoin Kim
Hi,


Thanks for your help. But is it possible to do it without additional IP 
address? I thought that I am not really bad with BIND but as soon as I started 
using views, I'm going nowhere [😊]


I found related links:

  *   
​https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00851/0/Understanding-views-in-BIND-9-by-example.html
 (I believe my scenario would be example 3 or 4)
  *   https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00723/0 (Because I really want to use TSIG)

Do I have to use a tarball from ISC to do this? Debian's BIND has a version of 
9.9.5 so version-wise, it looks alright to me. Thanks again.

Eoin



From: Lightner, Jeffrey 
Sent: Friday, 8 December 2017 11:38 PM
To: Lightner, Jeffrey; Eoin Kim; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views


Sorry that 10.0.9.9 should be 10.9.9.9 – i.e. notify-source and transfer-source 
are the same IP within the same view.





From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of 
Lightner, Jeffrey
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 8:34 AM
To: Eoin Kim; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

When we did it here we setup separate notify-source and transfer-source within 
the views on both the master and the slave.

view "internal" {

match-clients { internaldns; };

notify-source 10.9.9.8.;

transfer-source 10.9.9.8;

allow-transfer { dnsservers; };

…then our zones for internal view

Internaldns acl is one that we specify servers inside our network.
dnsserrvers acl is one that specifies the primary internal facing IP of the 
master and the slave

view "external" {

match-clients { any; };

notify-source 10.9.9.9;

transfer-source 10.0.9.9;

allow-transfer { dswadnsalias; };
…then our zones for external view

any allows external locations to query us (we have recursion turned off)
dswadnsalias  acl is one that specifies the alias IPs on the same NIC as the 
internal facing IP of the master and the slave

The IPs above would be on the master – you’d have separate IPs (but the same 
ACLs) on the slave.



You can create an alias IP on your primary NIC so for example here we have:
eth1 = 10.9.9.8

eth1:1 = 10.0.9.9

(In our config eth0 is the one we use for external facing traffic – eth1 is 
used for internal including zone transfers)




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Re: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

2017-12-08 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 8 December 2017 at 17:37, Eoin Kim  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> Thanks for your help. But is it possible to do it without additional IP
> address? I thought that I am not really bad with BIND but as soon as I
> started using views, I'm going nowhere [image: 😊]
>
>
> In order for the slave's View A to transfer from the master's View A, and
the slave's View B to transfer from the master's view B, there has to be
some way for the master to differentiate the two views on the slave and
answer their queries from the correct view.   Source IP address is the
typical way to do that.

You could probably select on source port instead, by setting the slave's
transfer-source to a particular port for each view.  I've never set this up
myself, but I just checked the ARM and it looks like you can use any legal
address_match_list in the view's match-clients list, so you could also
select on TSIG key used, if you assign per-view TSIG keys.
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Re: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views

2017-12-08 Thread Eoin Kim
Thanks guys. Let me play a bit and see how it goes. Cheers.


Eoin



From: Matthew Pounsett 
Sent: Saturday, 9 December 2017 9:29 AM
To: Eoin Kim
Cc: Lightner, Jeffrey; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: [Question] zone transfer issue with multiple views



On 8 December 2017 at 17:37, Eoin Kim 
mailto:eoin@rcst.com.au>> wrote:

Hi,


Thanks for your help. But is it possible to do it without additional IP 
address? I thought that I am not really bad with BIND but as soon as I started 
using views, I'm going nowhere [😊]


In order for the slave's View A to transfer from the master's View A, and the 
slave's View B to transfer from the master's view B, there has to be some way 
for the master to differentiate the two views on the slave and answer their 
queries from the correct view.   Source IP address is the typical way to do 
that.

You could probably select on source port instead, by setting the slave's 
transfer-source to a particular port for each view.  I've never set this up 
myself, but I just checked the ARM and it looks like you can use any legal 
address_match_list in the view's match-clients list, so you could also select 
on TSIG key used, if you assign per-view TSIG keys.



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