Re: SOA settings
Am 02.02.2018 um 18:04 schrieb Warren Kumari: On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: However this is not the SOA record. surely, at least a part of it @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( 2017110901 ; Serial 1800; Refresh 600 ; Retry 1814400 ; Expire 900 ; Negative-TTL ); Nope. https://memegenerator.net/instance/81230988 WTF - this is the SOA record directly from a zone file - period It is, at best, part of a simplified textural representation of an SOA record. And I'm not even willing to commit to that... :-P troll somewhere else or just read the subject SOA *settings* ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
Speaking of units, University of Chicago Professor Nicholas Metropolis (who had been one of the original Manhattan Project scientists at Los Alamos) remarked that the standard lecture period of 50 minutes lasted approximately 1 Micro-Century. On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:00:10 -0500 Warren Kumari wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling > >> amongst ourselves because we've know each other for a long time > >> and this is in good humor. > > > > Yes indeed :) > > > >> The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original > >> posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 > >> minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid > >> the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. > > > > I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human > > readable as possible, and in my experience most humans work better > > with smaller numbers including units (especially under > > stress/pressure). > > What?! You mean you still think in archaic units like hours and laghu > and days and fortnights and similar?! Weird Do you measure length > in alen? Or kyndemil? > > I use seconds for *everything* -- when pointy-haired boss types ask if > I'm actually working on a project (instead of, you know, snarking on > mailing lists) I tell them that I've put in "more than 2834 seconds in > the past 2 weeks alone". The arbitrary precision and large number > makes it sound like I've done way more than, you know, less than an > hour. > > It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you > are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal > work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo [0] - this is > only the first in a planned series; IIRC, the next one will cover the > number of seconds needed to cook an egg to the desired yolk > consistency, and the following one, for some unknown reason, helps you > remember the gestation period of a muskrat. > > > > > Each to their own, obviously. > > > > Apparently. > W > P.S: You are welcome for the earworm. > > > ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On 02/02/2018 04:00 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you > are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal > work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo I prefer this - (slightly NFSW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote: >> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst >> ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in >> good humor. > > Yes indeed :) > >> The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original >> posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 >> minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid >> the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. > > I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human readable as > possible, and in my experience most humans work better with smaller numbers > including units (especially under stress/pressure). What?! You mean you still think in archaic units like hours and laghu and days and fortnights and similar?! Weird Do you measure length in alen? Or kyndemil? I use seconds for *everything* -- when pointy-haired boss types ask if I'm actually working on a project (instead of, you know, snarking on mailing lists) I tell them that I've put in "more than 2834 seconds in the past 2 weeks alone". The arbitrary precision and large number makes it sound like I've done way more than, you know, less than an hour. It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo [0] - this is only the first in a planned series; IIRC, the next one will cover the number of seconds needed to cook an egg to the desired yolk consistency, and the following one, for some unknown reason, helps you remember the gestation period of a muskrat. > > Each to their own, obviously. > Apparently. W P.S: You are welcome for the earworm. -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On 2/2/18 2:57 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst > ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in > good humor. Wait... who are you guys??!? Happy Friday! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote: > Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst > ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in > good humor. Yes indeed :) > The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original > posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 > minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid > the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human readable as possible, and in my experience most humans work better with smaller numbers including units (especially under stress/pressure). Each to their own, obviously. ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Dave Warren via bind-users wrote: > On 2018-02-01 17:21, Lyle wrote: >> >> Bind does default to seconds. >> >> >> However this is not the SOA record. > > > Who said it was a SOA record? Ooghf. You are right. The OP simply said "a config file", and we've all assumed. Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in good humor. Assuming that it *is* an SOA (which is a reasonable assumption at this point :0) ) yes, that is 15 seconds, and is almost definitely not what you want. RIPE has a suggestion ( https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-203 ), SWITCH.CH has some others (https://securityblog.switch.ch/2014/02/06/zone-file-recommendations/) , Peter Koch (related to the RIPE page :-)) had others: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-koch-dns-soa-values-01 The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. W > > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to > unsubscribe from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On 2018-02-01 17:21, Lyle wrote: Bind does default to seconds. However this is not the SOA record. Who said it was a SOA record? ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: SOA settings
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 02.02.2018 um 01:21 schrieb Lyle: >> >> Bind does default to seconds. >> However this is not the SOA record. > > > surely, at least a part of it > > @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( > 2017110901 ; Serial > 1800; Refresh > 600 ; Retry > 1814400 ; Expire > 900 ; Negative-TTL > ); > > Nope. https://memegenerator.net/instance/81230988 It is, at best, part of a simplified textural representation of an SOA record. And I'm not even willing to commit to that... :-P W >> On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at a config file and seeing: >>> >>> 2017112100 ; serial >>> 1H ; refresh >>> 15 ; retry >>> 1w ; expire >>> 1H ; minimum >>> >>> Is that 15 15 seconds? >>> I'm guess ion it should be 15m? > > ___ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to > unsubscribe from this list > > bind-users mailing list > bind-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
