Re: DNSSEC validation via DLV

2019-07-18 Thread Mark Elkins
That I understand. Use me (Posix) then, full DNSSEC support. 
https://vweb.co.za. If you like, run your DNS wherever you want, just 
use me at the Registrar.
Unfortunately, very few Registrars in ZA-Land have implemented DNSSEC 
support - despite ZA having a very high percentage of DNSSEC resolver 
support (about 50% of all queries hit a DNSSEC aware recursive resolver!)


On 2019/07/19 01:57, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:

By all means, not a difficult process at all. I have DNSSEC enabled and fully 
operational on .com domains.

Problem being, no options exist as to export the DS record of co.za, com.au or 
net.au domains to the respective registrars, being namecheap.com and 
axxess.co.za.

Noted that namecheap.com does accept the DS records for .com domains, yet not 
for .au domains.

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Not a difficult process really..

-Configure a DNSSEC enabled name server
-Create a some zone keys (dnssec-keygen) -Sign your zone (dnssec-signzone) 
-Update your nameserver configuration to point to the signed zone file -Export 
your DS records (dsset) to the domain registration company (EPP).

Confirm the chain..   http://dnsviz.net/d/apnic.com.au/dnssec/

Mal



On 18/07/2019 4:46 pm, Mark Elkins wrote:

I  can't comment on com.au (but looking up the Nameservers, I see the
AD bit set - so DNSSEC appears to be in use..

However, co.za (and net.oza, org.za & web.za) which are managed by the
ZACR (and DNS) - they are all signed and I personally have domains
under these second levels - all running DNSSEC. The DS records are
added to the parents using EPP - and it works perfectly. I used to
present free (to the community) DNS classes to the community (the ZACR
paid me) and this (DNSSEC) was taught to attendees. Unfortunately, no
more classes for now.

DNSSEC in CO.ZA became live at about the time DLV stopped running. The
other SLD's had already been running for about a year.

For the record, EDU.ZA is also signed and can accept DS records -
albeit via a Web interface.

@peek - you are most welcome to chat to me.


On 2019/07/18 04:34, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:


With DLV (DNSSEC Lookaside Validation) having been decommissioned,
though zones still exists that does not provide a fully signed path
from root to zone, i.e. .com.au , co.za etc, how would an
administrator enable / implement DNSSEC validation for these zones ?


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Re: DNSSEC validation via DLV

2019-07-18 Thread Mal via bind-users



On 19/07/2019 9:27 am, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:
> 
> Problem being, no options exist as to export the DS record of co.za, com.au 
> or net.au domains to the respective registrars, being namecheap.com and 
> axxess.co.za.
> 

Change registry right ?

Crazy domains supports them for the ".com.au" zone.


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RE: DNSSEC validation via DLV

2019-07-18 Thread peek
By all means, not a difficult process at all. I have DNSSEC enabled and fully 
operational on .com domains.

Problem being, no options exist as to export the DS record of co.za, com.au or 
net.au domains to the respective registrars, being namecheap.com and 
axxess.co.za.

Noted that namecheap.com does accept the DS records for .com domains, yet not 
for .au domains.

-Original Message-
From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Mal via 
bind-users
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2019 10:22 PM
To: m...@posix.co.za; bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: DNSSEC validation via DLV


Not a difficult process really..

-Configure a DNSSEC enabled name server
-Create a some zone keys (dnssec-keygen) -Sign your zone (dnssec-signzone) 
-Update your nameserver configuration to point to the signed zone file -Export 
your DS records (dsset) to the domain registration company (EPP).

Confirm the chain..   http://dnsviz.net/d/apnic.com.au/dnssec/

Mal



On 18/07/2019 4:46 pm, Mark Elkins wrote:
> I  can't comment on com.au (but looking up the Nameservers, I see the 
> AD bit set - so DNSSEC appears to be in use..
> 
> However, co.za (and net.oza, org.za & web.za) which are managed by the 
> ZACR (and DNS) - they are all signed and I personally have domains 
> under these second levels - all running DNSSEC. The DS records are 
> added to the parents using EPP - and it works perfectly. I used to 
> present free (to the community) DNS classes to the community (the ZACR 
> paid me) and this (DNSSEC) was taught to attendees. Unfortunately, no 
> more classes for now.
> 
> DNSSEC in CO.ZA became live at about the time DLV stopped running. The 
> other SLD's had already been running for about a year.
> 
> For the record, EDU.ZA is also signed and can accept DS records - 
> albeit via a Web interface.
> 
> @peek - you are most welcome to chat to me.
> 
> 
> On 2019/07/18 04:34, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:
> 
>> With DLV (DNSSEC Lookaside Validation) having been decommissioned, 
>> though zones still exists that does not provide a fully signed path 
>> from root to zone, i.e. .com.au , co.za etc, how would an 
>> administrator enable / implement DNSSEC validation for these zones ?
>>
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Re: factor addresses out of 'forwarders' statement

2019-07-18 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users

On 7/18/19 3:24 PM, John Thurston wrote:
I have a number of 'forward' zones defined. Many of them look exactly 
the same except for their name. It would be helpful to abstract the 
addresses of my forwarders out and name them only once. But I can't find 
any way to do this.


An ACL doesn't make sense. A 'masters' list doesn't work.

Is there some way to do this?

alias { 10.10.1.2; 10.10.3.4; 10.10.5.6; }
zone "foo" {type forward; forwarders ( alias;}; };


Maybe.

Take a look at include statements.

You'll probably need to have the contents of the alias in it's own file:

--8<--
10.10.1.2; 10.10.3.4; 10.10.5.6;
-->8--

Then construct your zone statement a little bit differently.

--8<--
zone "foo" {type forward; forwarders (
include "/path/to/alias/file"
); };
-->8--

You are functionally doing what you want.

What you're really doing is manipulating text files that happen to be 
the aggregate BIND config file.


You could probably move more of the duplicate part of the config into 
the included file and have less to type for each zone.


Note:  I've not tested this in a while, things may have changed since I 
last tried this.


The other non-BIND option is to use some sort of pre-processor to 
generate your BIND config file for you.  I personally reach for M4 for 
things like this.  I can define a macro that accepts the zone name as a 
parameter.  Then I use the macro for each zone and let M4 stamp out the 
necessary config lines for me.  }:-)


Then there are the other zone loading methods, DLZ, catalog zones, etc.



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factor addresses out of 'forwarders' statement

2019-07-18 Thread John Thurston
I have a number of 'forward' zones defined. Many of them look exactly 
the same except for their name. It would be helpful to abstract the 
addresses of my forwarders out and name them only once. But I can't find 
any way to do this.


An ACL doesn't make sense. A 'masters' list doesn't work.

Is there some way to do this?

alias { 10.10.1.2; 10.10.3.4; 10.10.5.6; }
zone "foo" {type forward; forwarders ( alias;}; };



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Re: DNSSEC validation via DLV

2019-07-18 Thread Mal via bind-users

Not a difficult process really..

-Configure a DNSSEC enabled name server
-Create a some zone keys (dnssec-keygen)
-Sign your zone (dnssec-signzone)
-Update your nameserver configuration to point to the signed zone file
-Export your DS records (dsset) to the domain registration company (EPP).

Confirm the chain..   http://dnsviz.net/d/apnic.com.au/dnssec/

Mal



On 18/07/2019 4:46 pm, Mark Elkins wrote:
> I  can't comment on com.au (but looking up the Nameservers, I see the AD
> bit set - so DNSSEC appears to be in use..
> 
> However, co.za (and net.oza, org.za & web.za) which are managed by the
> ZACR (and DNS) - they are all signed and I personally have domains under
> these second levels - all running DNSSEC. The DS records are added to
> the parents using EPP - and it works perfectly. I used to present free
> (to the community) DNS classes to the community (the ZACR paid me) and
> this (DNSSEC) was taught to attendees. Unfortunately, no more classes
> for now.
> 
> DNSSEC in CO.ZA became live at about the time DLV stopped running. The
> other SLD's had already been running for about a year.
> 
> For the record, EDU.ZA is also signed and can accept DS records - albeit
> via a Web interface.
> 
> @peek - you are most welcome to chat to me.
> 
> 
> On 2019/07/18 04:34, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:
> 
>> With DLV (DNSSEC Lookaside Validation) having been decommissioned,
>> though zones still exists that does not provide a fully signed path
>> from root to zone, i.e. .com.au , co.za etc, how would an
>> administrator enable / implement DNSSEC validation for these zones ?
>>
>>
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Re: DNSSEC validation via DLV

2019-07-18 Thread Mark Elkins
I  can't comment on com.au (but looking up the Nameservers, I see the AD 
bit set - so DNSSEC appears to be in use..


However, co.za (and net.oza, org.za & web.za) which are managed by the 
ZACR (and DNS) - they are all signed and I personally have domains under 
these second levels - all running DNSSEC. The DS records are added to 
the parents using EPP - and it works perfectly. I used to present free 
(to the community) DNS classes to the community (the ZACR paid me) and 
this (DNSSEC) was taught to attendees. Unfortunately, no more classes 
for now.


DNSSEC in CO.ZA became live at about the time DLV stopped running. The 
other SLD's had already been running for about a year.


For the record, EDU.ZA is also signed and can accept DS records - albeit 
via a Web interface.


@peek - you are most welcome to chat to me.


On 2019/07/18 04:34, p...@vspace.co.za wrote:

With DLV (DNSSEC Lookaside Validation) having been decommissioned, 
though zones still exists that does not provide a fully signed path 
from root to zone, i.e. .com.au , co.za etc, how would an 
administrator enable / implement DNSSEC validation for these zones ?



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