Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Grant Taylor via bind-users

On 2/28/22 1:47 PM, Gregory Sloop wrote:
I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask 
the real experts! :)


I'm definitely not an expert.  I don't even pretend to be one on T.V.

But I do wonder what, if any, sort of restrictions you are placing on 
recursion on your system.


It's my (mis)understanding that recursion has some effect on forwarding 
queries.  My limited understanding is recursion is another way of saying 
if the server should chase the answer for you or not.  If it doesn't 
have it in it's own data (authoritative and / or cache), then it's 
recursion setting comes into play.


If I'm mistaken, please correct me.



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Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Crist Clark
You didn’t share much of your configuration except the one forwarded zone,
not a lot to go on.

But one thing to check, you do have recursion enabled on the server?

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 6:34 PM Gregory Sloop  wrote:

> Wow. I hate to be the guy who looks the gift horse in the mouth - but that
> just seems "wrong." :)
>
> (Not the answer, but that that would be the way BIND wants it done.)
>
>
>
> So, now I've got two sets of NS and glue records?
>
> Please tell me that's not the way BIND insists you do this!
>
>
>
> I guess I should try it, but dang.
>
> Does anyone know for sure?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Add Delegating NS records:
>
> ab.somedomain.local 3600 NS server1.ab.somedomain.local
> .
> .
> .
>
>
> And glue records
>
> server1.ab.somedomain.local 3600 A 10.0.0.1
> .
> .
>
>
> And see if it works. It’s got something to do with the way the record is
> matched (or not) before the forward statement is hit.
>
> J
>
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Gregory Sloop  wrote:
>
> So, I want to forward all queries for
> *.ab.somedomain.local to some other internal DNS servers.
> (Records in *.ab.somedomain.local actually are our active domain servers)
>
>
> (Yes, I know .local is reserved now, but we've been using it a long time
> and changing would be rather painful. Unless there's some horrible
> consequences, I think we'll just continue for now. We won't ever use mDNS.)
>
>
> zone "ab.somedomain.local" {
> type forward;
> forward only;
> forwarders { 10.0.0.1; 10.0.0.2; 10.0.0.3; };
> };
>
> But this doesn't appear to do what I want.
>
>
> If I add the above to my regular BIND servers configuration, it doesn't
> return results like it's forwarding them. (I get NXOMAIN for
> abc.ab.somedomain.local.)
>
>
> If I do a dig @10.0.0.1 abc.ab.somedomain.local from the BIND server, I
> get a proper result. (force dig to use the AD name servers directly,
> instead of relying on the forward.)
>
>
> (And yes the resolv.conf file has the ip addresses of the main internal
> BIND servers in it, and those only.)
> I've looked and while I think I'm doing it right, I'm not entirely sure.
> I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the
> real experts! :)
>
>
>
>
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Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Gregory Sloop
Wow. I hate to be the guy who looks the gift horse in the mouth - but that just 
seems "wrong." :) 
(Not the answer, but that that would be the way BIND wants it done.)
 
So, now I've got two sets of NS and glue records? 
Please tell me that's not the way BIND insists you do this!
 
I guess I should try it, but dang.
Does anyone know for sure?
 
  

> Add Delegating NS records:

> ab.somedomain.local 3600 NS server1.ab.somedomain.local
> .
> .
> .


> And glue records

> server1.ab.somedomain.local 3600 A 10.0.0.1
> .
> .


> And see if it works. It’s got something to do with the way the record is 
> matched (or not) before the forward statement is hit.

> J
>> On Feb 28, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Gregory Sloop  wrote:

>> So, I want to forward all queries for 
>> *.ab.somedomain.local to some other internal DNS servers.
>> (Records in *.ab.somedomain.local actually are our active domain servers)
>>  
>> (Yes, I know .local is reserved now, but we've been using it a long time and 
>> changing would be rather painful. Unless there's some horrible consequences, 
>> I think we'll just continue for now. We won't ever use mDNS.)
>>  
>> zone "ab.somedomain.local" {
>> type forward;
>> forward only;
>> forwarders { 10.0.0.1; 10.0.0.2; 10.0.0.3; };
>> };

>> But this doesn't appear to do what I want.
>>  
>> If I add the above to my regular BIND servers configuration, it doesn't 
>> return results like it's forwarding them. (I get NXOMAIN for 
>> abc.ab.somedomain.local.)
>>  
>> If I do a dig @10.0.0.1 abc.ab.somedomain.local from the BIND server, I get 
>> a proper result. (force dig to use the AD name servers directly, instead of 
>> relying on the forward.)
>>  
>> (And yes the resolv.conf file has the ip addresses of the main internal BIND 
>> servers in it, and those only.)
>> I've looked and while I think I'm doing it right, I'm not entirely sure.
>> I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the 
>> real experts! :)
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Re: Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Jeff Sumner
Add Delegating NS records:

ab.somedomain.local 3600 NS server1.ab.somedomain.local
.
.
.


And glue records

server1.ab.somedomain.local 3600 A 10.0.0.1
.
.


And see if it works. It’s got something to do with the way the record is 
matched (or not) before the forward statement is hit.

J

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 3:47 PM, Gregory Sloop  wrote:
> 
> So, I want to forward all queries for 
> *.ab.somedomain.local to some other internal DNS servers.
> (Records in *.ab.somedomain.local actually are our active domain servers)
>  
> (Yes, I know .local is reserved now, but we've been using it a long time and 
> changing would be rather painful. Unless there's some horrible consequences, 
> I think we'll just continue for now. We won't ever use mDNS.)
>  
> zone "ab.somedomain.local" {
> type forward;
> forward only;
> forwarders { 10.0.0.1; 10.0.0.2; 10.0.0.3; };
> };
> 
> But this doesn't appear to do what I want.
>  
> If I add the above to my regular BIND servers configuration, it doesn't 
> return results like it's forwarding them. (I get NXOMAIN for 
> abc.ab.somedomain.local.)
>  
> If I do a dig @10.0.0.1 abc.ab.somedomain.local from the BIND server, I get a 
> proper result. (force dig to use the AD name servers directly, instead of 
> relying on the forward.)
>  
> (And yes the resolv.conf file has the ip addresses of the main internal BIND 
> servers in it, and those only.)
> I've looked and while I think I'm doing it right, I'm not entirely sure.
> I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the 
> real experts! :)
>  
> 
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Re: AA flag

2022-02-28 Thread @lbutlr
On 2022 Feb 27, at 05:46, Bob McDonald  wrote:
> I'm guessing that the zone files hosted on the new DNS servers still contain 
> NS records pointing to the old DNS servers.

After propagation everything seems to have settled out properly, no errors on 
dnsviz now.

Thanks though.


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Forwarding zone, setup

2022-02-28 Thread Gregory Sloop
So, I want to forward all queries for 
*.ab.somedomain.local to some other internal DNS servers.
(Records in *.ab.somedomain.local actually are our active domain servers)
 
(Yes, I know .local is reserved now, but we've been using it a long time and 
changing would be rather painful. Unless there's some horrible consequences, I 
think we'll just continue for now. We won't ever use mDNS.)
 
zone "ab.somedomain.local" {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { 10.0.0.1; 10.0.0.2; 10.0.0.3; };
};

But this doesn't appear to do what I want.
 
If I add the above to my regular BIND servers configuration, it doesn't return 
results like it's forwarding them. (I get NXOMAIN for abc.ab.somedomain.local.)
 
If I do a dig @10.0.0.1 abc.ab.somedomain.local from the BIND server, I get a 
proper result. (force dig to use the AD name servers directly, instead of 
relying on the forward.)
 
(And yes the resolv.conf file has the ip addresses of the main internal BIND 
servers in it, and those only.)
I've looked and while I think I'm doing it right, I'm not entirely sure.
I figured before I beat my head against the wall for too long, I'd ask the real 
experts! :)
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