Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-29 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi,

FTR I spent some time today trying to reproduce the issue and I can’t reproduce 
it locally,
so it must be something else than just simple number of workers.

The associated issue is here: 
https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/2837

If anybody experiencing the issue was to go through the hassle of building a 
Debug version
of `named` in a local Visual Studio 2017, I can pass a recipe.

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> On 23. 7. 2021, at 20:53, Ondřej Surý  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, having such a simple reproducer is helpful.
> 
> Can you try if adding `-n 8` vs `-n 7` have the same effect?
> 
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>> On 23. 7. 2021, at 20:31, Peter via bind-users  
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>>  Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a 
>> virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround... 
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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Hoi lam Poon
垃圾

2021-07-23 11:31 GMT-07:00, Peter via bind-users :
> Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a
> virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround...
>
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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Hoi lam Poon
你們聊天滾到別個地方,給我滾

2021-07-23 11:31 GMT-07:00, Peter via bind-users :
> Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a
> virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround...
>
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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Hoi lam Poon
Sorry 滾

2021-07-23 11:31 GMT-07:00, Peter via bind-users :
> Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a
> virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround...
>
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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Peter via bind-users

update on how to get bind to run with parameters for windows

make folder in C:\ named

make file called named.bat

in the bat file add:

sc start named -n 7

in services > ISC BIND recovery tab

first failure select run a program

check enable actions for stops with errors

in run program browse for named.bat

apply and now start the services.

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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Peter via bind-users
Yes I went in services and put in start parameters -n 7 and 9.16.19 
started however a bug in windows means it does not save the parameter at 
least I think it a bug so you have to manually put in -n 7 to start bind.



On 23/07/2021 7:53 pm, Ondřej Surý wrote:

Thanks, having such a simple reproducer is helpful.

Can you try if adding `-n 8` vs `-n 7` have the same effect?

Ondřej
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On 23. 7. 2021, at 20:31, Peter via bind-users 
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 Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a 
virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a 
workaround...

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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Ondřej Surý
Thanks, having such a simple reproducer is helpful.

Can you try if adding `-n 8` vs `-n 7` have the same effect?

Ondřej
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> On 23. 7. 2021, at 20:31, Peter via bind-users  
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>  Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a virtual 
> machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround... 
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Re: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Peter via bind-users
Well I reported it and we see what happens my main bind is not in a 
virtual machine I guess I cound disbale Hyper-Threading as a workaround...
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RE: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Richard T.A. Neal
Hi Peter,

I’ve run a few tests based on your observations regarding the number of vCPU 
cores and my own findings are that it is specifically 8 vCPUs and 12 vCPUs 
which exhibit this behaviour. I haven’t been able to test beyond 12 vCPUs 
because that’s my hardware limit.

With 1-7 vCPUs, or with 9-11 vCPUs BIND 9.16.19 starts just fine. But with 
either 8 vCPUs or 12 vCPUs the ISC BIND service fails to start.

If I try and start the service manually I get:

/ / / / /
Windows could not start the ISC BIND service on Local Computer.
Error 1067: The process terminated unexpectedly.
/ / / / /

And if I look in the Windows Application Event Log I see named logging all of 
the following, and then it stops right after logging that it’s using 1 UDP 
listener per interface:

/ / / / /
BIND 9 is maintained by Internet Systems Consortium,
Inc. (ISC), a non-profit 501(c)(3) public-benefit
corporation.  Support and training for BIND 9 are
available at https://www.isc.org/support

found 8 CPUs, using 8 worker threads
using 1 UDP listener per interface
/ / / / /

You should file a bug report on ISC’s BIND bug tracker if you’d like them to 
investigate it. It doesn’t impact me I’m afraid because my Windows BIND servers 
are all 2 vCPU virtual machines – I find that’s plenty enough resource to run 
BIND for me.

https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues

Best,

Richard.

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Subject: ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS


So after ALL that it was down to the number of cores/threads, anything more 
then 7 cores/threads and 9.16.19 WILL NOT RUN tested in a virtual PC.

Man what A BUG
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ITS THE NUMBER OF CORES/THREADS

2021-07-23 Thread Peter via bind-users
So after ALL that it was down to the number of cores/threads, anything 
more then 7 cores/threads and 9.16.19 WILL NOT RUN tested in avirtual PC.


Man what A BUG

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